Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself

There are many 'False Dragons', but only one Dragon Reborn.

Is this some character in a fantasy novel?

Nice (:

I am not just speaking about a character. It is a concept that the entire series revolves around, and the concept seems to be of masonic origins.

But, yes, it is a fantasy series that I can see some obvious masonic influences within.

Do you think it's a concept grounded in reality or just a fanciful idea the author used to make his story more interesting?

My guess would be the latter.
Waiting for MoL D:

My guess would be the latter.
Waiting for MoL D:

Personally, I can see how the concept can relate to real world.

From reading about the prophecies of this time, it definitely resonates strongly. That is why I brought up the fact that the author was masonic and was 'in the know'. Then, he expanded on the ideas and 'hid' them in his writings.

The moshiach prophecy - and others - tie very strongly to the main character of the books, and seems to be written around the prophecies of Mosiach. The Nobody meme is an nearly an exact mirror to the main character's story.

What's MoL?

Mosiach of Liberation
(I'm just guessing)

Last Edited by 1908247 on 10/01/2012 11:16 AM

That's what I mentioned above.

There seems to be some ties to Zoroastrianism as well.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Malak Taus?

I remember looking into zoroastrianism a couple of months back

In these books, the main character is 100% good, but the machinations of the various agendas portray him as 'evil', as he will be the one that breaks (changes) the world.

I love one of the lines from the second book. He is a man that will break laws, break oaths, break bonds, and break the world. Something like that.

schizophrenia

You are a failed mystic?

Good Post OP.
My real name is John Conner.

We need some Aes Sedai from the Blue Ajah and some powerful angreals to solve the mess we're in right now.

Last Edited by Enneadeka on 10/01/2012 02:38 PM

Mol is 'a memory of light'

The last book.

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 10/01/2012 11:52 AM

Do you, SOS, think you may be a "Ta'veren" ?

Gotcha

I don't see how I could be. I sit behind a desk for work. I have a feeling that others think I may be, but I don't know why they would.

I can see patterns in information though. Guess that may be something.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 10/01/2012 11:57 AM

Hmmm...ill this.

That root ta mara also stands out...

You can tell by the events that seem to happen around you. You think they are just coincidences. They are never directly connected to you. They just keep happening around you and what you focus on.

It's not something that someone can tell you. It's something you only suspect but can never prove.

Could you explain that?

[link to www.mistresskalpanasrealm.com]

Arianrhod (aree AN rod), whose name means "Silver Wheel", is a Goddess of fertility, the full moon, the stars, regeneration, and reincarnation, whose pathway is an eternal quest or thread that has no beginning or end. The spirit of Arianrhod is a symbol of prophecy and dreams. As a meditative glyph, She provides a glimpse of both the past and future, but the traveler must follow the Spirit of Arianrhod with an open heart and mind. She controls the time dimension that allows access to the whirlpool of Creation; an enigmatic vision of the universe as perceived by the Celts. She is the personification of the ever-turning Wheel of the Year. This wheel was also known as the Oar Wheel, a ship that carried dead warriors to the Moon-land (Emania). She is a primal figure of female power and authority and is considered an Ancestral Goddess of the Celts. The key to the nature of this Goddess is that She is a weaver, in control of the interactions of human lives and of the matter of creation itself. In Irish tradition we find that the Goddess of the Land of Erin may manifest as a weaver. She lives in a stellar realm, Caer Arianrhod - otherwise known as the Corona Borealis, with her female attendants and there she decides the fate of the dead. The Corona Borealis is the self-same constellation that is associated with Ariadne, a Greek resonance of Arianrhod. She is a very sexual Goddess and mates freely with any man she chooses, whenever she chooses, as her body is hers to do with, as she wants. For this reason she is often in open rebellion against patriarchal society. Many believe that her myths represent the shift from the time of Celtic women's full freedom to that of male centered clans and male domination of women.


the myths aren't just myths, they're personifications of our own attributes (god/men and goddesses/women)

when we can understand them we then can understand ourselves
the major gods and goddesses transcend different cultures across time, no matter the culture/people you'll find an arianrhod in their mythology along with other prominent gods/goddesses

The real question is:

How many are there in this cycle? 'The nobody' isn't just one person.

as many as are needed :P
judging from the material SS posted :)