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Apollonius was the most known person in Roman Empire.For 300 years. 17 temples were build in his name. There was worship of him from Galatia until Persia ,and at Capitolium in Rome was a statue of him. He was born at 4 BC. He had 10 students.
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Kent,

You, I think it was you who, posted something about him last year sometime. It was only about a paragraph, or a couple of paragraphs long.. If you can remember, would you please post it again?

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Some scholars, both ancient and contemporary, believe that Apollonius was actually the Christian Apostle Paul, as many of his teachings coincide with those of Paul, and Apollonius is said to have done many of the same things Paul did. Others suggest Apollonius was the Jesus Christ of the Christian scriptures. Others, such as the 2nd-century wit Lucian, ascribed the false magic of "the notorious Apollonius", transmitted through a pupil, to the bag of impostures played by Alexander the false prophet, a contemporary travelling mage posing as a priest of Asclepius, ca 150 – 170.
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The fact that so little is known about him today is evidence that his writings/teachings were taken over and used by Constantine in the Roman Catholic Church.

Apollonius's travels, experiences, and writings were adapted to become the epistles of "Paul of Tarsus".
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Neti:
I tried a flight of imagination RV towards Apollonius.

Came up with this:
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We are talking about possibly the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
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We're all messiahs, and anybody who tells us different is an anti christ who is spewing his fathers lies.

I'm Messiah Frank. I'm the Lord of my fuckin dance. In my books you should always emmanate your highest potential, the story of Christ showed us the way to do that. Overcome those shadows, and be the light of a diamond

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Did Constantine synthesize his own mystical god to unite the tribes,
Ye-Zeus-Khrishna, and also to obsure the Pythagorian mystic, Apollonius, who always seemed to trump the Roman Poohbahs?
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yes, it seems that way. If he was a follower of Manicheanism then it`s a full circle again to Persia and dualist theology.

And, the burning of the Alexandrian Library....I`m sure the truth about Aollonius isn`t the only info we lost. Talk about ancient civilizations.


The Lost Teachings of Atlantis...
I like this part the best...sums it up for me.
Can we get back to "the Garden" and harmony with nature/the universe/oneness with the universal spirit/God?

I would edit it to universal spirit/God/ess to incorporate balance in the universe


Thanks, Kent for this info. I read about this years ago, sounds very familiar so it was nice to learn about this again.
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Apollonius of Tyana lived in the first century AD and was known for his miracle feats,like being in two places at the same time.He belonged to the gnostic movement and one of his writings,the Nuctemeron,dealt with the Path of Inner Illumination.I don't think he should be confused with Jesus of Nazareth in Palestine,some 70 years earlier.
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REVELATION 9:11 They have as king over them, the angel of the Abyss; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon
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The Angel of the bottomless pit....hmmmm, is the bottomless pit the same as the Throne room that some refer to in the esoteric world? Also referred to as the Holy Spirit perhaps? But it could be the living spirit of Christ thats in the Throne room
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Apollo (Greek: ???????, Apóll?n; ???????) is a god in Greek and Roman mythology, the son of Zeus and Leto, and the twin of Artemis (goddess of the hunt), one of the most important and many-sided of the Olympian divinities. In later times he became in part confused or equated with Helios, god of the sun, and his sister similarly equated with Selene, goddess of the moon in religious contexts. But Apollo and Helios/Sol remained quite separate beings in literary/mythological texts. In Etruscan mythology, he was known as Aplu.


Apollo is considered to have dominion over plague, beauty, light, healing, colonists, medicine, archery, poetry, prophecy, dance, reason, intellectualism, Shamans, and as the patron defender of herds and flocks. Apollo had a famous oracle in Delphi and other notable ones in Clarus and Branchidae.


Apollo, the son of Zeus and the mortal Leto.
Apollo is known as the leader of the Muses ("musagetes") and director of their choir. His attributes include: swans, wolves, dolphins, bows and arrows, a laurel crown, the cithara (or lyre) and plectrum. The sacrificial tripod is another attribute, representative of his prophetic powers. The Pythian Games were held in his honor every four years at Delphi. Paeans were the name of hymns sung to Apollo.

The most usual attributes of Apollo were the lyre and the bow; the tripod especially was dedicated to him as the god of prophecy. Among plants, the bay, used in expiatory sacrifices and also for making the crown of victory at the Pythian games, and the palm-tree, under which he was born in Delos, were sacred to him; among animals and birds, the wolf, the roe, the swan, the hawk, the raven, the crow, the snake, the mouse, the grasshopper and the griffin, a mixture of the eagle and the lion evidently of Eastern origin. The swan and grasshopper symbolize music and song; the hawk, raven, crow and snake have reference to his functions as the god of prophecy.

The chief festivals held in honour of Apollo were the Carneia, Daphnephoria, Delia, Hyacinthia, Pyanepsia, Pythia and Thargelia.
Among the Romans the worship of Apollo was adopted from the Greeks. There is a tradition that the Delphian oracle was consulted as early as the period of the kings during the reign of Tarquinius Superbus, and in 430 a temple was dedicated to Apollo on the occasion of a pestilence, and during the Second Punic War (in 212) the Ludi Apollinares were instituted in his honour. It was in the time of Augustus, who considered himself under the special protection of Apollo and was even said to be his son, that his worship developed and he became one of the chief gods of Rome. After the battle of Actium, Augustus enlarged his old temple, dedicated a portion of the spoil to him, and instituted quinquennial games in his honour. He also erected a new temple on the Palatine hill and transferred the secular games, for which Horace composed his Carmen Saeculare, to Apollo and Diana.

As god of colonization, Apollo gave guidance on colonies, especially during the height of colonization,750-550 BC. According to Greek tradition, he helped Cretan or Arcadian colonists find the city of Troy. However, this story may reflect a cultural influence which had the reverse direction: Hittite cuneiform texts mention a Minor Asian god called Appaliunas or Apalunas in connection with the city of Wilusa, which is now regarded as being identical with the Greek Illios by most scholars. In this interpretation, Apollo’s title of Lykegenes can simply be read as "born in Lycia", which effectively severs the god's supposed link with wolves (possibly a folk etymology).

Apollo popularly (e.g., in literary criticism) represents harmony, order, and reason - characteristics contrasted by those of Dionysus, god of wine, who popularly represents emotion and chaos. The contrast between the roles of these gods is reflected in the adjectives Apollonian and Dionysian. However, Greeks thought of the two qualities as complementary: the two gods are brothers, and when Apollo at winter left for Hyperborea he would leave the Delphi Oracle to Dionysus.

Together with Athena, Apollo (under the name Phevos) was controversially designated as a mascot of the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens.
The worship of Apollo has revived with the rise of revivalist Hellenic polytheism, and the contemporary Pagan movement. One example of this revival is the group, Kyklos Apollon.


Etymology of the name

The name Apollo might have been derived from a Pre-Hellenic compound Apo-ollon [citation needed], likely related to an archaic verb Apo-ell- and literally meaning "he who elbows off", that is "the Dispelling One." Indeed, he seems to have personified dispelling power, which would relate to his association with the darkness-dispelling power of the morning sun and the conceived power of reason and prophecy to dispel doubt and ignorance. In addition:

The apparent expelling character of city walls and doorways as bulwarks against trespassers
The people-dispelling nature of disembarkations and expatriations to colonies
The disease-dispelling character of healing
The predator-dispelling character of a shepherd tending his flocks
The pest-dispelling nature of a farmer growing crops
The power of music and the arts to dispel discord and barbary
The highly important power of fit and skilled young men to dispel intruders and invading armies
The ability of foresight into the future

An explanation given by Plutarch in Moralia is that Apollon signified a unity, since pollon meant "many," and the prefix a- was a negative. Thus, Apollon could be read as meaning "deprived of multitude." Apollo was consequently associated with the monad.

Hesychius connects the name Apollo with the Doric ??????, which means assembly, so that Apollo would be the god of political life, and he also gives the explanation ????? ("fold"), in which case Apollo would be the god of flocks and herds.


Apollo in art

In art, Apollo is usually depicted as a handsome young man, almost always beardless, and often with a lyre or bow in hand.


Appellations

Epithets applied to Apollo include:

Phoebus ("shining one"), for Apollo in the context of the god of light
Smintheus ("mouse-catcher") and Parnopius ("grasshopper"), as god of the plague and defender against rats and locusts.
Delphinios ("delphinian"), meaning "of the womb", associating Apollo with Delphoi (Delphi). An aitiology in the Homeric hymns connects the epitheton to dolphins.
Archegetes, ("director of the foundation") for colonies.
Musagetes ("leader of the muses").
Pythios ("Pythian") at Delphi
Apotropaeus ("he who averts evil")
Nymphegetes ("nymph-leader")
Lyceios and Lykegenes ("wolfish" or "of Lycia," where some postulate his cult originated)
Nomios ("wandering"), as the pastoral shepherd-god
Klarios from Doric klaros "allotment of land", for his supervision over cities and colonies.
Kynthios is another epithet, stemming from his birth on Mt. Cynthus
Loxias ("the obscure"), as Apollo a god of prophecy specifically.
Argurotoxos, ("with the silver bow") for archery.
Aphetoros, ("god of the bow") for archery.
Alexikakos, ("restrainer of evil"), as Apollo the healer.
Akesios or Iatros, "healer"



Birth

When Hera discovered that Leto was pregnant and that Hera's husband, Zeus, was the father, she banned Leto from giving birth on "terra-firma", or the mainland, or any island at sea. In her wanderings, Leto found the newly created floating island of Delos, which was neither mainland nor a real island, and gave birth there. The island was surrounded by swans. Afterwards, Zeus secured Delos to the bottom of the ocean. This island later became sacred to Apollo. Alternatively, Hera kidnapped Ilithyia, the goddess of childbirth, to prevent Leto from going into labor. The other gods tricked Hera into letting her go by offering her a necklace, nine yards long, of amber. Either way, Artemis was born first and then assisted with the birth of Apollo. Another version states that Artemis was born one day before Apollo, on the island of Ortygia and that she helped Leto cross the sea to Delos the next day to give birth to Apollo. Apollo was born on the 7th day (????????????) of the month Thargelion according to Delian tradition or of the month Bysios according to Delphian tradition. The 7th and 20th, the days of the new and full moon, were ever afterwards held sacred to him.


Youth

In his youth, Apollo killed the vicious dragon Python, which lived in Delphi beside the Castalian Spring, according to some because Python had attempted to rape Leto while she was pregnant with Apollo and Artemis.This was the spring which emitted vapors that caused the Oracle at Delphi to give her prophesies. Apollo killed Python but had to be punished for it, since Python was a child of Gaia.


Apollo and Admetus

When Zeus struck down Apollo's son, Asclepius, with a lightning bolt for resurrecting the dead (and thus steal Hades's subjects), Apollo in revenge killed the Cyclops, who had fashioned the bolt for Zeus. Apollo would have been banished to Tartarus forever, but was instead sentenced to one year of hard labour as punishment, thanks to the intercession of his mother, Leto. During this time he served as shepherd for King Admetus of Pherae in Thessaly. Admetus treated Apollo well, and, in return, the god conferred great benefits on Admetus.
Apollo helped Admetus win Alcestis, the daughtor of King Pelias and later convinced the Fates to let Admetus live past his time if another took his place. But when it came time for Admetus to die, his elderly parents, whom he had assumed would gladly die for him, refused to cooperate. Instead, Alcestis took his place, but Heracles managed to "persuade" Thanatos, the god of death, to return her to the world of the living.


Cyrene/Aristaeus

By Cyrene, Apollo had a son named Aristaeus, who became the patron god of cattle, fruit trees, hunting, husbandry and bee-keeping. He was also a culture-hero and taught humanity dairy skills and the use of nets and traps in hunting, as well as how to cultivate olives.


Apollo and the Birth of Hermes

Hermes was born on Mount Cyllene in Arcadia. The story is told in the Homeric Hymn to Hermes. His mother, Maia, had been secretly impregnated by Zeus, in a secret affair. Maia wrapped the infant in blankets but Hermes escaped while she was asleep. Hermes ran to Thessaly, where Apollo was grazing his cattle. The infant Hermes stole a number of his cows and took them to a cave in the woods near Pylos, covering their tracks. In the cave, he found a tortoise and killed it, then removed the insides. He used one of the cow's intestines and the tortoise shell and made the first lyre. Apollo complained to Maia that her son had stolen his cattle, but Hermes had already replaced himself in the blankets she had wrapped him in, so Maia refused to believe Apollo's claim. Zeus intervened and, claiming to have seen the events, sided with Apollo. Hermes then began to play music on the lyre he had invented. Apollo, a god of music, fell in love with the instrument and offered to allow exchange the cattle for the lyre. Hence, Apollo became a master of the lyre and Hermes invented a kind of pipes-instrument called a syrinx.
Later, Apollo exchanged a caduceus for a syrinx from Hermes.


Miscellaneous

When Zeus killed Asclepius for raising the dead and violating the natural order of things, Apollo killed the Cyclopes in response. They had fashioned Zeus' thunderbolts, which he used to kill Apollo's son, Asclepius. Apollo also had a lyre-playing contest with Cinyras, his son, who committed suicide when he lost.

In the Odyssey, Odysseus and his surviving crew landed on an island sacred to Helios the sun god, where he kept sacred cattle. Though Odysseus warned his men not to (as Tiresias and kirke had told him), they killed and ate some of the cattle and Helios had Zeus destroy the ship and all the men save Odysseus.

Apollo killed the Aloadae when they attempted to storm Mt. Olympus.

Apollo gave the order, through the Oracle at Delphi, for Orestes to kill his mother, Clytemnestra, and her lover, Aegisthus. Orestes was punished fiercely by the Erinyes for this crime.

It was also said that Apollo rode on the back of a swan to the land of the Hyperboreans during the winter months.

Apollo turned Cephissus into a sea monster.




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Abaddon

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This article is about the Hebrew word; for other uses, see Abaddon (disambiguation).
Abaddon is a Biblical Hebrew word meaning "destruction".
In Biblical poetry (Job 26:6; Proverbs 15:11) it comes to mean "place of destruction", or the realm of the dead, and is associated with Sheol. Abaddon is also one of the compartments of Gehenna.
In Revelation 9:11, it is described personified as the demon Abaddon, "Angel of the Abyss", rendered in Greek as Apollyon.



Reference

Article about abaddon from the 11th edition Encyclopædia Britannica (1911)

This article incorporates text from the public domain Catholic Encyclopedia.

This article incorporates text from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica, a publication in the public domain.



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Apollyon

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:Apollyon is also the fifth book in the Left Behind series.
Apollyon appears in the New Testament (Book of Revelation 9:7 – 11) leading the locust-like swarm of demons that will be released in the End Times:
7. In appearance the locusts were like horses arrayed for battle; on their heads were what looked like crowns of gold; their faces were like human faces, 8. their hair like women's hair, and their teeth like lions' teeth; 9. they had scales like iron breastplates, and the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle. 10. They have tails like scorpions, and stings, and their power of hurting men for five months lies in their tails. 11. They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.




The name, in Greek "Destroyer" (????????, from ?????????, to destroy) is cognate with the Hebrew Abaddon (lit. "place of destruction," but here personified) and the Greek god Apollo, also a "destroyer" in his aspect of controlling pestilence, though the composite monstrosity that is Apollyon is distinctly Babylonian and Persian, not Hellenic, in inspiration.(!)



Apollyon seems to be equated in Revelation with the Beast. The term "Apollyon" was often associated by early Christians with The Devil, and fancifully described, and is still used as an alternative name for him.



Apollyon is the "foul fiend" who assaulted Christian on his pilgrimage through the Valley of Humiliation in John Bunyan's great allegory. The identification with the Asmodeus of Tobit iii. 8 is erroneous.


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Monad

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The word monad comes from the Greek word ????? (from the word ?????, which means "one", "single", "unique") and has had many meanings in different contexts in philosophy, mathematics, computing and music:
Among the Pythagoreans (followers of Pythagoras) the monad was the first thing that came into existence. The monad begot the dyad, which begot the numbers, the numbers begat points, which begot lines, which begat two-dimensional entities, which begat three-dimensional entities, which begat bodies, which begot the four elements earth, water, fire and air, from which the rest of our world is built up. The monad was thus a central concept in the cosmology of the Pythagoreans, who held the belief that the world was - literally - built up by numbers. (The source of this claim is Diogenes Laertius' book Lives of Eminent Philosophers.)
Within certain variations of Gnosticism, especially those inspired by Monoimus, the Monad was the higher being which created lesser gods, or elements (similar to aeons). This view was according to Hippolytus inspired by the Pythagoreans.

The Monad appears in the alchemical texts of the Hermetica, part four of the corpus is called The Cup or Monad.

The Monad is the Chinese symbol of duality in nature.

In the writings of the philosopher Gottfried Leibniz, monads are atomistic mental objects which experience the world from a particular point of view. Leibniz's theory does not posit physical space; rather, physical objects are constructs of the collective experiences of monads. This way of putting it is misleading, however; monads do not interact with each other (are "windowless"), but rather are imbued at creation with all their future experiences in a system of pre-established harmony. The arrangements of the monads make up the faith and structure of this world, which to Leibniz was "the best of all possible worlds".
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A lot of 9's, 11's and 19's in the above article AND the Revelations Psalm...

Hmmm...
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The fact that so little is known about him today is evidence that his writings/teachings were taken over and used by Constantine in the Roman Catholic Church.

Apollonius's travels, experiences, and writings were adapted to become the epistles of "Paul of Tarsus".
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Biblical scholar Bart D. Ehrman relates that in the introduction to his textbook on the New Testament, he describes an important figure from the first century without first revealing he is writing about the stories attached to Apollonius of Tyana:

Even before he was born, it was known that he would be someone special. A supernatural being informed his mother the child she was to conceive would not be a mere mortal but would be divine. He was born miraculously, and he became an unusually precocious young man. As an adult he left home and went on an itinerant preaching ministry, urging his listeners to live, not for the material things of this world, but for what is spiritual. He gathered a number of disciples around him, who became convinced that his teachings were divinely inspired, in no small part because he himself was divine. He proved it to them by doing many miracles, healing the sick, casting out demons, and raising the dead. But at the end of his life he roused opposition, and his enemies delivered him over to the Roman authorities for judgment, but unlike Jesus was not crucified, as he vanished from the courtroom and reappeared in another place days later where he was seen by his followers, and convinced them that he was not really dead, but lived on in the heavenly realm. Later some of his followers wrote books about him.

In his book "Did Jesus Exist?" Ehrman goes on to say that Apollonius and Jesus were real persons and that Apollonius' followers believed Jesus to be a fraud.

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Apollonius the Greek had long time campion and friend named Damas — could this be the Thomas in the gospel of Thomas which was written in Greek as were the Gospels?

Apollonius was also considered anti-semetic like Jesus but for the simple fact that he was a vegetarian who was vehemently opposed to blood sacrifice. He teachings were non-polemic and subtle in their essesnce — unlike the Jewish Jesus.

Looks like Rome’s Bible May be BS which would make the KJV BS as well.

They may have scorched the Library at Alexandria to destroy as much evidence as possible of the Mystery Man of Tyana.
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We are talking about possibly the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
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I agree. It’s breathtakingly huge.
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We are talking about possibly the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
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I agree. It’s breathtakingly huge.
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A BEHEMOTH

Why?

To prepare the masses for Incalculably Malevolent bloodthirsty alien overlord which will entitize any time now — which they will most likely embrace with open arms. The Slave Master of Souls?

AbraCADabraHamic magic trick.
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We are talking about possibly the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
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Some scholars, both ancient and contemporary, believe that Apollonius was actually the Christian Apostle Paul, as many of his teachings coincide with those of Paul, and Apollonius is said to have done many of the same things Paul did. Others suggest Apollonius was the Jesus Christ of the Christian scriptures. Others, such as the 2nd-century wit Lucian, ascribed the false magic of "the notorious Apollonius", transmitted through a pupil, to the bag of impostures played by Alexander the false prophet, a contemporary travelling mage posing as a priest of Asclepius, ca 150 – 170.
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And the historical Jesus as well.

Get ready peeps.

It’s coming....
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Yahweh — the biggest anti-Semite in the universe.

Anti-human as well.
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We are talking about possibly the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind.
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I agree. It’s BREATH-TAKINGLY huge.
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Ace up their sleeve — indeed.

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Ace up their sleeve — indeed.

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Aww man!

Dont' bring up old threads like this and make me think it's the good old, sorry, AWESOME old days!
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Murder by numbers — ABC — Gematria magic.



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Aww man!

Dont' bring up old threads like this and make me think it's the good old, sorry, AWESOME old days!
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There back.

Join in Kiddo.

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Aww man!

Dont' bring up old threads like this and make me think it's the good old, sorry, AWESOME old days!
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They’re back.

Join in Kiddo.

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The atmosphere in Athens on this day is described by Philostratus in his recounting of Apollonius of Tyana's attempt at late initiation. This sequence is an example of how a man of exceptional spiritual power may be persecuted by small-minded officials.

Arriving at Pireaus about the season of the Mysteries, when Athens is more crowded than any place in Greece, he lost no time in going up to the city from his ship. As he went he met many of the learned making their way down to Piraeus. Some were basking naked---the autumn is fine and sunny at Athens---others were deep in discussions upon a text, some practicing recitations, some disputing. None of them passed him by, but all guessing that this was Apollonius, turned back with him and hailed him with enthusiasm. A party of ten youths fell in with him, who stretched out their hands towards the Acropolis and swore 'by yonder Athena, they were just setting out for Piraeus to take ship for Ionia and find him there.' He welcomed them, and said he congratulated them on their desire for learning.

It was the day of the Epidauria; and at the Epidauria the Athenian usage, after the Preface and the sacrifice, is to initiate aspirants for a second sacrifice. This tradition represents Asclepius' experience, because he came from Epidaurus, late in the Mysteries, and they initiated him. Heedless of the initiation service, the multitude hung round Apollonius, more concerned with this than to secure admission to the Elect. He said he would be with them anon, and encouraged them to attend the service for the meanwhile, as he himself intended to be initiated. But the hierophant refused him access to the holy things, saying that he would never admit a charlatan, nor open Eleusis to a man of impure theology. Apollonius was equal to himself on this occasion, and said, 'You have not yet mentioned the greatest charge that might be brought against me, which is that I know more than you about this rite, although I came to you as to a man better skilled than myself.' The bystanders applauded this vigorous and characteristic rebuke; and the hierophant, seeing that the excommunication was unpopular, changed his tune and said, 'You shall be admitted, for you seem to be a person of doctrine.' Apollonius answered, 'I will be admitted at another time; the ceremony will be performed by So-and-so'---prophetically naming the next occupant of the hierophancy, who succeeded to his sacred office four years later.
(Philostratus In Honor of Apollonius of Tyana IV, 17-18)

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The atmosphere in Athens on this day is described by Philostratus in his recounting of Apollonius of Tyana's attempt at late initiation. This sequence is an example of how a man of exceptional spiritual power may be persecuted by small-minded officials.

Arriving at Pireaus about the season of the Mysteries, when Athens is more crowded than any place in Greece, he lost no time in going up to the city from his ship. As he went he met many of the learned making their way down to Piraeus. Some were basking naked---the autumn is fine and sunny at Athens---others were deep in discussions upon a text, some practicing recitations, some disputing. None of them passed him by, but all guessing that this was Apollonius, turned back with him and hailed him with enthusiasm. A party of ten youths fell in with him, who stretched out their hands towards the Acropolis and swore 'by yonder Athena, they were just setting out for Piraeus to take ship for Ionia and find him there.' He welcomed them, and said he congratulated them on their desire for learning.

It was the day of the Epidauria; and at the Epidauria the Athenian usage, after the Preface and the sacrifice, is to initiate aspirants for a second sacrifice. This tradition represents Asclepius' experience, because he came from Epidaurus, late in the Mysteries, and they initiated him. Heedless of the initiation service, the multitude hung round Apollonius, more concerned with this than to secure admission to the Elect. He said he would be with them anon, and encouraged them to attend the service for the meanwhile, as he himself intended to be initiated. But the hierophant refused him access to the holy things, saying that he would never admit a charlatan, nor open Eleusis to a man of impure theology. Apollonius was equal to himself on this occasion, and said, 'You have not yet mentioned the greatest charge that might be brought against me, which is that I know more than you about this rite, although I came to you as to a man better skilled than myself.' The bystanders applauded this vigorous and characteristic rebuke; and the hierophant, seeing that the excommunication was unpopular, changed his tune and said, 'You shall be admitted, for you seem to be a person of doctrine.' Apollonius answered, 'I will be admitted at another time; the ceremony will be performed by So-and-so'---prophetically naming the next occupant of the hierophancy, who succeeded to his sacred office four years later.
(Philostratus In Honor of Apollonius of Tyana IV, 17-18)

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Apollonius’ major tenet of his philosophy - NO ANIMAL SACRIFICE. IT FEEDS THE EVIL ENTITY. That is why THEY feared him and why THEY created a new religion, one to be forced upon the gentiles — by threat of the sword — it’s major tenet being the offering a blood sacrifice of “gods” only child for the forgiveness of the guilty by the murder of the innocent. And they go on about it, don’t THEY? And the murdering wars and bloodshed continue....with no end in sight.

Apollonius knew.

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The cruelty and suffering to these sentient creatures is intentional. It feeds their parasitic occult dictator.

But do the documentarians know?

I wonder....,

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