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| Vonnegutian
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28837233  United Kingdom12/01/2012 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again, I have finished another Philip K. Dick book (The Divine Invasion), and once again, my reality has become stranger than normal. This happens to me only when I read Philip K Dick. Granted, his books do make you think about the fabric of reality, but I have read many authors like him and none of them affect me like his writing does. Quoting: Vonnegutian Synchronicity sky rockets. My eyes reach a word on the page and someone unaware of the book I am reading says that exact word at that exact moment. Songs on the radio seem to be there for me, like theme music to my life. Things that happen in his books start to happen to myself, or I read or hear about those same things happening elsewhere. I feel so lucid, not only mentally sharper but my vision is sharper, like someone squeegeed my eyeballs. My theory is that PKD did indeed tap into the source of reality and fed that information and way of thinking into his writing, so that the reader starts to pick it up and do the same. Or, perhaps I am just as crazy as he was. Anyone else afflicted with PKD syndrome? I read pretty much all his stuff about 40 years ago. The last one I remember reading was "Flow My Tears The Policeman Said". He was a weird kinda guy! |
| MATT_32
User ID: 26051822  Canada12/02/2012 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again, I have finished another Philip K. Dick book (The Divine Invasion), and once again, my reality has become stranger than normal. This happens to me only when I read Philip K Dick. Granted, his books do make you think about the fabric of reality, but I have read many authors like him and none of them affect me like his writing does. Quoting: Vonnegutian Synchronicity sky rockets. My eyes reach a word on the page and someone unaware of the book I am reading says that exact word at that exact moment. Songs on the radio seem to be there for me, like theme music to my life. Things that happen in his books start to happen to myself, or I read or hear about those same things happening elsewhere. I feel so lucid, not only mentally sharper but my vision is sharper, like someone squeegeed my eyeballs. My theory is that PKD did indeed tap into the source of reality and fed that information and way of thinking into his writing, so that the reader starts to pick it up and do the same. Or, perhaps I am just as crazy as he was. Anyone else afflicted with PKD syndrome? I know the feeling , its like you pierce a veil or something . Things start to Sync up. For me this is a natural side effect of PKD 's work. It's not a coincidence , it occurred too many times. It happened last when i read " Martian Time-Slip " . In " VALIS " the theme of underlying this world Rome's Empire is still Alive and well , really struck a chord and creates a lot of weirdness. Maybe its the Gnostic undertones . Maze of Death & Ubik stand out for me.I know when i read "Radio Free Albemuth " next what to expect . PKD 's paranoia of Richard Nixon can easily be applied to today's presidents like BUSH and BHO. |
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| MATT_32
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32391160  Brazil01/17/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impressive words. Can anybody confirm if he thought the virtual reality was created by Romans about a century after Christ? I know he had a vision he had a sort of fusion with body of Christ in glory as written by apostle Paul. He seemed to be sure it was not God's body but Christ and I don't RECALL if it was Christ's head or body. Please more details... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32391160 Brazil01/17/2013 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impressive words. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32391160 Can anybody confirm if he thought the virtual reality was created by Romans about a century after Christ? I know he had a vision he had a sort of fusion with body of Christ in glory as written by apostle Paul. He seemed to be sure it was not God's body but Christ and I don't RECALL if it was Christ's head or body. Please more details... VALIS invades this spurious world of control in order to liberate us. For Dick, this "living information...replicates itself—not through information or in information—but as information." VALIS is a virus, a kind of metaphysical DNA that encodes the Logos or "Word" that opens the Gospel of St. John. Birth from the spirit occurs when the information plasmate "penetrate(s) the world, replicating in human brains, crossbanding with them and assisting them..." Dick calls these hybrid humans "homeoplasmates". At one point Dick believed that when the last of the homeoplasmates were killed off with the destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans in 70 C.E., "real time ceased." The plasmate reentered human history in 1945, when jars stuffed with ancient gnostic codices were discovered in Nag Hammadi, Egypt |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1634447 United States01/17/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look into robert anton wilsons idea of "reality tunnels" and the idea of being able to "imprint" them, like downloading the blue print of someones character. i feel this happen with P.K.D for me sometimes. [link to www.sirbacon.org] and also, you might like this... [link to fluxite.com] His understanding on the nature of reality. He says: “All you need do is totally believe that pattern “x” exsist and if “x” is potentially real, it will pass over into the actual. This requires a push-pull relationship between the person and reality. He cant ,say, will a blue phoenix into exsistance ex nihilo; the person must enter into a* progressive intricate dialogue with reality* in which there is feedback between both parties. Reality testing, not its absence, is required. He is feeling out its softer flexible parts, where it will yield, how much and in what way.”-p.k.d *i.e the future prospect of quantum computer purpose- me |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32391160 Brazil01/17/2013 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Richard Dawkings’s The Selfish Gene : “Memes should be regarded as living structures, not just metaphorically but technically. When you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain, turning into a vehicle for the meme’s propagation in just the way a virus may parasitize the genetic mechanism of a host cell … The meme for, say, “belief in life after death” is actually realized physically, millions of time over, as a structure in the nervous systems of individual men the world over.”Eschatology of virus apocalypse of information... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1634447 United States01/17/2013 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Richard Dawkings’s The Selfish Gene : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32391160 “Memes should be regarded as living structures, not just metaphorically but technically. When you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain, turning into a vehicle for the meme’s propagation in just the way a virus may parasitize the genetic mechanism of a host cell … The meme for, say, “belief in life after death” is actually realized physically, millions of time over, as a structure in the nervous systems of individual men the world over.”Eschatology of virus apocalypse of information... RD seems to be picking up on PKD "black iron prison" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32391160 Brazil01/17/2013 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impressive words. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32391160 Can anybody confirm if he thought the virtual reality was created by Romans about a century after Christ? I know he had a vision he had a sort of fusion with body of Christ in glory as written by apostle Paul. He seemed to be sure it was not God's body but Christ and I don't RECALL if it was Christ's head or body. Please more details... VALIS invades this spurious world of control in order to liberate us. For Dick, this "living information...replicates itself—not through information or in information—but as information." VALIS is a virus, a kind of metaphysical DNA that encodes the Logos or "Word" that opens the Gospel of St. John. Birth from the spirit occurs when the information plasmate "penetrate(s) the world, replicating in human brains, crossbanding with them and assisting them..." Dick calls these hybrid humans "homeoplasmates". At one point Dick believed that when the last of the homeoplasmates were killed off with the destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans in 70 C.E., "real time ceased." The plasmate reentered human history in 1945, when jars stuffed with ancient gnostic codices were discovered in Nag Hammadi, Egypt I knew it was something like that his concept. HE THOUGHT WE ARE ACTUALLY LIVING IN OLD TESTAMENT TIMES UNDER ROME DICTATORSHIP: [link to blingdomofgod.com] |
| INK3
User ID: 32352426 United States01/17/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great topic. I haven't read any PKD in years, but I'll be looking for some this weekend. Thanks OP! "When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing, When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing" page7 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32309030 United Kingdom01/17/2013 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in my 40s. Started on PKD as an early teen circa 1982. Have a pretty much complete collection of his work here including the really bad pulp novels as well as his serious work. Took me a long while to find it all. For many years a lot was out of print. He was a very special human being and one of the major figures of the twentieth century in any field. His writing transcends science fiction and even mainstream literature: he was closer to an Old Testament prophet than an author. Have met people who knew him and I hang on every word about him. No doubt he was all too human as a person, but when the best of the writing hits you it's something you can never forget. My top six: Three Stigmata, Maze of Death, Scanner, Flow My Tears, Valis, Ubik. Especially Ubik. |
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| acegotflows
User ID: 28872932 United States01/17/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe his writing is a tool for your awakening. I think we all have a few authors, directors, speakers, musicians, artists etc that trigger things in us. "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1634447 United States01/17/2013 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for the A.D 70 biification, see terence mckennas timestream bification theory, and also my own Thread: The Acid Conspiracy |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32309030 United Kingdom01/17/2013 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but guys have you read his exegieses? its heart breaking, but flooring. easily my top 5 works ever made, its not even fully released yet Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1634447 Got the first version of excerpts from the Exegesis back in '91, got the 1000 page version last year...it's kinda nutty, for pages you're thinking 'nah, this guy was a mentally ill fuckup' then a section will hit you like...well, like a diamond bullet |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1634447 United States01/17/2013 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but guys have you read his exegieses? its heart breaking, but flooring. easily my top 5 works ever made, its not even fully released yet Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1634447 Got the first version of excerpts from the Exegesis back in '91, got the 1000 page version last year...it's kinda nutty, for pages you're thinking 'nah, this guy was a mentally ill fuckup' then a section will hit you like...well, like a diamond bullet [link to porb.tumblr.com] :)<3 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32391160 Brazil01/17/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LSD discovered in 1947 Genocide of WWII 1940 - 1945 First detonations of nuclear weapons - 1945 Important advance in DNA theory - 1946 Dead Sea Scrolls discovered - 1946-47 "This photograph taken by Voyager 1 shows a close up of the Great Red Spot on Jupiter, a storm that has been raging in the gas giant's atmosphere for at least three hundred years. The white spot shows another cloud system that is believed to have formed around.............1940...." Something clearly happened in the 40's^ its like a loop in time got closed and the new loop was actually 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different loops knotted together, history sense then has been the untying of these knots. Acid Dreams is the complete social history of LSD and the counterculture it helped to define in the sixties. Martin Lee and Bruce Shlain's exhaustively researched and astonishing account-part of it gleaned from secret government files-tells how the CIA became obsessed with LSD as an espionage weapon during the early l950s and launched a massive covert research program, in which countless unwitting citizens were used as guinea pigs. Though the CIA was intent on keeping the drug to itself, it ultimately couldn't prevent it from spreading into the popular culture; here LSD had a profound impact and helped spawn a political and social upheaval that changed the face of America. Thus the metaphysical took the measure of, and mastered, the physical. That relationship seems by experience to be irreversible. Nothing in our experience suggests that energy could comprehend and write the equation of intellect. That equation is operating inexorably, and the metaphysical is now manifesting its ability to reign over the physical."- Buckminster Fuller i purposing an in breaking of the "metaphysical" occurred sometime in the 40's, and it was a monumental macrocosmic event, one our ancestors strived to work toward, and put faith in. it was a reversal once again in a spiral in time that was spiraling inward, now it is spiraling out. Hoffman handles LSD in 1938 and nothing happens and then in 1943, three months after atomic energy is released, he puts his finger on lysergic acid and gets flipped out? What happened? Did Hoffman suddenly get careless? Or had LSD suddenly been changed into a psychedelic chemical? Competent chemists just don't change their handling of compounds. Hoffman's techniques are standard. His eyes are dancing and He's laughing and his hands and body are moving. He was a ballet dancer once before He started making drugs. Now dig. The atomic fission in December 1942 changed the whole system of energy in this solar system. The higher intelligence decides to make a few simple changes in the electronic structure of some atoms, and zap! We have LSD, an incredibly powerful substance that is the exact antidote to atomic energy. People take LSD, and flash! They get the message and start putting things back in harmony with the great design. Stop war! Wear flowers! Conservation! Turning on people to LSD is the precise and only way to keep war from blowing up the whole system." 13 BAKTUN, etc.. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1634447 United States01/17/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm impressed by that thread about acid conspiracy, different posts from there: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32391160 LSD discovered in 1947 Genocide of WWII 1940 - 1945 First detonations of nuclear weapons - 1945 Important advance in DNA theory - 1946 Dead Sea Scrolls discovered - 1946-47 "This photograph taken by Voyager 1 shows a close up of the Great Red Spot on Jupiter, a storm that has been raging in the gas giant's atmosphere for at least three hundred years. The white spot shows another cloud system that is believed to have formed around.............1940...." Something clearly happened in the 40's^ its like a loop in time got closed and the new loop was actually 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different loops knotted together, history sense then has been the untying of these knots. Acid Dreams is the complete social history of LSD and the counterculture it helped to define in the sixties. Martin Lee and Bruce Shlain's exhaustively researched and astonishing account-part of it gleaned from secret government files-tells how the CIA became obsessed with LSD as an espionage weapon during the early l950s and launched a massive covert research program, in which countless unwitting citizens were used as guinea pigs. Though the CIA was intent on keeping the drug to itself, it ultimately couldn't prevent it from spreading into the popular culture; here LSD had a profound impact and helped spawn a political and social upheaval that changed the face of America. Thus the metaphysical took the measure of, and mastered, the physical. That relationship seems by experience to be irreversible. Nothing in our experience suggests that energy could comprehend and write the equation of intellect. That equation is operating inexorably, and the metaphysical is now manifesting its ability to reign over the physical."- Buckminster Fuller i purposing an in breaking of the "metaphysical" occurred sometime in the 40's, and it was a monumental macrocosmic event, one our ancestors strived to work toward, and put faith in. it was a reversal once again in a spiral in time that was spiraling inward, now it is spiraling out. Hoffman handles LSD in 1938 and nothing happens and then in 1943, three months after atomic energy is released, he puts his finger on lysergic acid and gets flipped out? What happened? Did Hoffman suddenly get careless? Or had LSD suddenly been changed into a psychedelic chemical? Competent chemists just don't change their handling of compounds. Hoffman's techniques are standard. His eyes are dancing and He's laughing and his hands and body are moving. He was a ballet dancer once before He started making drugs. Now dig. The atomic fission in December 1942 changed the whole system of energy in this solar system. The higher intelligence decides to make a few simple changes in the electronic structure of some atoms, and zap! We have LSD, an incredibly powerful substance that is the exact antidote to atomic energy. People take LSD, and flash! They get the message and start putting things back in harmony with the great design. Stop war! Wear flowers! Conservation! Turning on people to LSD is the precise and only way to keep war from blowing up the whole system." 13 BAKTUN, etc.. thank you:) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18237036 United States01/17/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You could very well be locked into a time loop where you are reborn into an infinite cycle where you have experienced the same shit over and over but never remember but at times it leaks into your awareness and you go oh shit, that makes sense like its happened before and it fits everything I think I know but don't really know cause its all to weird to be real but there it is. |
