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BREAKING # Obama Gives OK For BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS to Be Installed in ALL CARS

 
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Looking at the response to this thread people don't seem to care much that every move they make is registered.
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No, we can just smell over hyped bullshit. Will not happen.
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This is totally off-topic, but it's my thread so wtf... :)

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So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Obama Gives OK For Black Box Data Recorders to Be Installed in All Cars
Susanne Posel, Contributor
Sunday, December 9, 2012
Activist Post

With complete disregard for driver privacy, the Obama administration gave their consent to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration(NHTSA) to mandate black box event data recorders (EDR) be installed in all new cars in the US.

The NHTSA says that by September 2014 all car and light trucks will be equipped with EDRs that will silently “record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop.”

The information recorded by EDRs includes:

• vehicle speed
• whether the brake was activated in the moments before a crash
• crash forces at the moment of impact
• information about the state of the engine throttle
• air bag deployment timing and air bag readiness prior to the crash
• whether the vehicle occupant’s seat belt was buckled

The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.”

CONTINUE: [link to www.activistpost.com]

 Quoting: RoXY


Paranoia.

I say good.. this is all useful info... and really if an alphabet agency wants to track you, they'll just follow your cell phone...
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Obama Gives OK For Black Box Data Recorders to Be Installed in All Cars
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Sunday, December 9, 2012
Activist Post

With complete disregard for driver privacy, the Obama administration gave their consent to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration(NHTSA) to mandate black box event data recorders (EDR) be installed in all new cars in the US.

The NHTSA says that by September 2014 all car and light trucks will be equipped with EDRs that will silently “record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop.”

The information recorded by EDRs includes:

• vehicle speed
• whether the brake was activated in the moments before a crash
• crash forces at the moment of impact
• information about the state of the engine throttle
• air bag deployment timing and air bag readiness prior to the crash
• whether the vehicle occupant’s seat belt was buckled

The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.”

CONTINUE: [link to www.activistpost.com]

 Quoting: RoXY


Paranoia.

I say good.. this is all useful info... and really if an alphabet agency wants to track you, they'll just follow your cell phone...
 Quoting: seethelight


Exactly. But most people are useful idiots that can't relate matters so they will always remain pawns in someones money-making scheme, eg. conspiracy websites linking to websites which have prepper adds on them.
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Obama Gives OK For Black Box Data Recorders to Be Installed in All Cars
Susanne Posel, Contributor
Sunday, December 9, 2012
Activist Post

With complete disregard for driver privacy, the Obama administration gave their consent to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration(NHTSA) to mandate black box event data recorders (EDR) be installed in all new cars in the US.

The NHTSA says that by September 2014 all car and light trucks will be equipped with EDRs that will silently “record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop.”

The information recorded by EDRs includes:

• vehicle speed
• whether the brake was activated in the moments before a crash
• crash forces at the moment of impact
• information about the state of the engine throttle
• air bag deployment timing and air bag readiness prior to the crash
• whether the vehicle occupant’s seat belt was buckled

The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.”

CONTINUE: [link to www.activistpost.com]

 Quoting: RoXY


Paranoia.

I say good.. this is all useful info... and really if an alphabet agency wants to track you, they'll just follow your cell phone...
 Quoting: seethelight


Don't carry a cell phone.

I don't
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Paranoia.

I say good.. this is all useful info... and really if an alphabet agency wants to track you, they'll just follow your cell phone...
 Quoting: seethelight


Exactly. But most people are useful idiots that can't relate matters so they will always remain pawns in someones money-making scheme, eg. conspiracy websites linking to websites which have prepper adds on them.
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Heard of that program that blocks adds?

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Paranoia.

I say good.. this is all useful info... and really if an alphabet agency wants to track you, they'll just follow your cell phone...
 Quoting: seethelight


Exactly. But most people are useful idiots that can't relate matters so they will always remain pawns in someones money-making scheme, eg. conspiracy websites linking to websites which have prepper adds on them.
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Heard of that program that blocks adds?
 Quoting: RoXY


Yes. But that wasn't the point. I'm not surprised you didn't get the point.
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So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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And what help are BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS in that matter?

Just curious...
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blablablabla
Yes. But that wasn't the point. I'm not surprised you didn't get the point.
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So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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And what help are BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS in that matter?

Just curious...
 Quoting: RoXY


Well lets say an idiot crashes into your car.

He claims it's your fault.

There are no other witnesses.

What will you do? You won't be able to prove shit conclusively. Especially if the cop you are dealing with is having a bad day and thinks something unpleasant of you because of the state of panic you are in. After all, you did have a child on the backseat.

Black box data is EVIDENCE. To counter the IDIOTS and ASSHOLES who roam this world.

You do know that for instance, in the Netherlands, the #1 cause of death is traffic accidents?
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there is also black box recorders in airplanes which do more good then bad
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So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


And what help are BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS in that matter?

Just curious...
 Quoting: RoXY


Well lets say an idiot crashes into your car.

He claims it's your fault.

There are no other witnesses.

What will you do? You won't be able to prove shit conclusively. Especially if the cop you are dealing with is having a bad day and thinks something unpleasant of you because of the state of panic you are in. After all, you did have a child on the backseat.

Black box data is EVIDENCE. To counter the IDIOTS and ASSHOLES who roam this world.

You do know that for instance, in the Netherlands, the #1 cause of death is traffic accidents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

I asked what help BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS are in this...
People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

...matter.

And the example you use to dignify the use of black box data recorders in cars is rather far-fetched imo.

It's a bit like prohibiting matches 'cos someone could set his house on fire.

Or, to keep it to our own small not so cozy as it used to be country: taking the DNA of every citizen, 'cos it solved the murder of one girl.
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Well isn't this just peachy? Pretty soon the government will be offering to hold my hand in the shower in case I slip. To dry me off when I get out of the shower. To clean off my chin if I spill my food. To wipe my ass after I take a shit, and to hold my dick when I need to piss. I just hope they jiggle it more than 3 times for me.
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They can shut down any car built after 1988 via satalite, across the grid.
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So why don't they do this in high speed chases? Or earlier this year when those thugs were driving through LA throwing cash out the windows...
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They can't target individual cars,but can probably shut down all the new cars in an area.
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I heard General Schwarzkopf give a speech concerning it. You are correct that they can not isolate individual cars, but certain grids.
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Well isn't this just peachy? Pretty soon the government will be offering to hold my hand in the shower in case I slip. To dry me off when I get out of the shower. To clean off my chin if I spill my food. To wipe my ass after I take a shit, and to hold my dick when I need to piss. I just hope they jiggle it more than 3 times for me.
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And if you don't accept their offer, they make it a law
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Obama Gives OK For Black Box Data Recorders to Be Installed in All Cars
Susanne Posel, Contributor
Sunday, December 9, 2012
Activist Post

With complete disregard for driver privacy, the Obama administration gave their consent to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration(NHTSA) to mandate black box event data recorders (EDR) be installed in all new cars in the US.

The NHTSA says that by September 2014 all car and light trucks will be equipped with EDRs that will silently “record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop.”

The information recorded by EDRs includes:

• vehicle speed
• whether the brake was activated in the moments before a crash
• crash forces at the moment of impact
• information about the state of the engine throttle
• air bag deployment timing and air bag readiness prior to the crash
• whether the vehicle occupant’s seat belt was buckled

The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.”

CONTINUE: [link to www.activistpost.com]

 Quoting: RoXY


The government is OUT OF CONTROL.

Time to keep an old car around.
:grnrolleyes:

:comrade: :facists:
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When they come out people should boycott new cars,
then maybe the manufacturers will start putting up
a fuss about the boxes!

But, unfortunately most won't even know the boxes are installed in their new vehicles!
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So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


And what help are BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS in that matter?

Just curious...
 Quoting: RoXY


Well lets say an idiot crashes into your car.

He claims it's your fault.

There are no other witnesses.

What will you do? You won't be able to prove shit conclusively. Especially if the cop you are dealing with is having a bad day and thinks something unpleasant of you because of the state of panic you are in. After all, you did have a child on the backseat.

Black box data is EVIDENCE. To counter the IDIOTS and ASSHOLES who roam this world.

You do know that for instance, in the Netherlands, the #1 cause of death is traffic accidents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

I asked what help BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS are in this...
People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

...matter.

And the example you use to dignify the use of black box data recorders in cars is rather far-fetched imo.

It's a bit like prohibiting matches 'cos someone could set his house on fire.

Or, to keep it to our own small not so cozy as it used to be country: taking the DNA of every citizen, 'cos it solved the murder of one girl.
 Quoting: RoXY


I was highlighting the different kind of idiocies one encounters all day every day. Now those idiots also drive cars. That's the whole point.

No, the example I used was NOT far fetched because the reality is that traffic accidents are one of the major causes for deaths, certainly in the Netherlands where it is the biggest factor.

And about that DNA instance. You're damn right it solved the murder of one girl. But not just that, you do know that foreigners in that area were being bullied away because all the white folk blamed the refugees for the rape and murder. When it turned out to be a white guy with a white wife and white kids, no apologies have been offered to the people who were ostracized, no compensation, NOTHING. So it solved all those issues and made the idiots REALIZE they are idiots.

And I would willingly give my DNA if it would narrow down the search, but, I did not need to. They only required it from MEN who lived in a radius of about 5-10 kilometers around the CRIMESCENE. Not every citizen.

So again, they didn't ask it of every citizen and if you brushed up on your Dutch: It was NOT mandatory. And the other DNA samples from those innocent people are already destroyed.

The problem with ideologies that you are spreading, namely, paranoid ideologies with very little basis in fact, is that they are largely emotionally driven arguments and ideologies. Not logical.
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Well isn't this just peachy? Pretty soon the government will be offering to hold my hand in the shower in case I slip. To dry me off when I get out of the shower. To clean off my chin if I spill my food. To wipe my ass after I take a shit, and to hold my dick when I need to piss. I just hope they jiggle it more than 3 times for me.
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Ha Ha Ha... Sad, but I think most of the sleeping slobs
today would like that!
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Remember that shitty clash for clunkers bullshit?
They managed to remove a lot of the older cars, sans computers, from the road.
Not to mention how they drove up the price of used cars.
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Well isn't this just peachy? Pretty soon the government will be offering to hold my hand in the shower in case I slip. To dry me off when I get out of the shower. To clean off my chin if I spill my food. To wipe my ass after I take a shit, and to hold my dick when I need to piss. I just hope they jiggle it more than 3 times for me.
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Ha Ha Ha... Sad, but I think most of the sleeping slobs
today would like that!
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You guys are paranoid delusional idiots.

But let me guess, that's not true, you're only "awake" while the rest of us are "asleep".

Idiots. Enjoy filling another's pocket by talking about matters you simply do not have the IQ to understand.
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Susanne Posel, Contributor
Sunday, December 9, 2012
Activist Post

With complete disregard for driver privacy, the Obama administration gave their consent to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration(NHTSA) to mandate black box event data recorders (EDR) be installed in all new cars in the US.

The NHTSA says that by September 2014 all car and light trucks will be equipped with EDRs that will silently “record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop.”

The information recorded by EDRs includes:

• vehicle speed
• whether the brake was activated in the moments before a crash
• crash forces at the moment of impact
• information about the state of the engine throttle
• air bag deployment timing and air bag readiness prior to the crash
• whether the vehicle occupant’s seat belt was buckled

The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.”

CONTINUE: [link to www.activistpost.com]

 Quoting: RoXY


Nothing new here, matey. Back a couple years ago my engine light went on. I took it for servicing and the technician said the last recording on the computer unit showed my speed was 35 miles an hour. Also, it showed I needed to replace the Oxygen sensor. This was on my 1999 Toyota Camry. So the engine computer was capturing my movements even back in 1999. I just didn't know it.
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So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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And what help are BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS in that matter?

Just curious...
 Quoting: RoXY


Well lets say an idiot crashes into your car.

He claims it's your fault.

There are no other witnesses.

What will you do? You won't be able to prove shit conclusively. Especially if the cop you are dealing with is having a bad day and thinks something unpleasant of you because of the state of panic you are in. After all, you did have a child on the backseat.

Black box data is EVIDENCE. To counter the IDIOTS and ASSHOLES who roam this world.

You do know that for instance, in the Netherlands, the #1 cause of death is traffic accidents?
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over here like 1 out of 7 cars is uninsured , so thats like 30 million cars. get hit by a scumbag with no license or insurance they will drive off if they can.
either way you are fucked first by the scumbags then by the scumbag insurance company
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So again, they didn't ask it of every citizen and if you brushed up on your Dutch: It was NOT mandatory. And the other DNA samples from those innocent people are already destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Yeah, sure and I won't come in your mouth and pay you tomorrow...

The problem with ideologies that you are spreading, namely, paranoid ideologies with very little basis in fact, is that they are largely emotionally driven arguments and ideologies. Not logical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


Verplichte legitimatie...

Waar was dat ook alweer voor bedoeld?

En wat is het geworden?

Een gemakkelijke manier om mensen geld afhandig te maken.
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You guys are paranoid delusional idiots.

But let me guess, that's not true, you're only "awake" while the rest of us are "asleep".

Idiots. Enjoy filling another's pocket by talking about matters you simply do not have the IQ to understand.
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So again, they didn't ask it of every citizen and if you brushed up on your Dutch: It was NOT mandatory. And the other DNA samples from those innocent people are already destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Yeah, sure and I won't come in your mouth and pay you tomorrow...

The problem with ideologies that you are spreading, namely, paranoid ideologies with very little basis in fact, is that they are largely emotionally driven arguments and ideologies. Not logical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


Verplichte legitimatie...

Waar was dat ook alweer voor bedoeld?

En wat is het geworden?

Een gemakkelijke manier om mensen geld afhandig te maken.
 Quoting: RoXY


...that first remark was out of context and has no relevance to this discussion.

Second of all,

Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID. I've never been stopped by a cop(save for one time, but she was really cute and even then I gave her a hard time) and shown my ID simply because the cop asks it, there needs to be a reason for it. And even then I bust their balls.

See, instead of spending all your time reading about shit they do in America you could spend a bit of that time reading on your own countries laws. To stand strong and actually know your rights, rather than having fucked up conspiracy sites scare the fuck out of you because a "police state" is coming and "you don't have any rights". Grow up.
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Remember that shitty clash for clunkers bullshit?
They managed to remove a lot of the older cars, sans computers, from the road.
Not to mention how they drove up the price of used cars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26646277


Bing!

Now who can or would spend $42,000 on a new Ford Tarus?
Now used car parts and used cars are out of this world in pricing. Plus, you can now purchase radiation free certified parts, look for the mark on your next purchase or ask your sales rep. for those not made in Japan or Heco in China.
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I remember hearing about a pilot program taking place in Portland, OR having something to do with these black boxes Rox? It may have been something to do with taxing registerred owners by the miles driven, which I am sure is where this is all headed. Agenda 21 is becoming more apparent.
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It's all about control.
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And here I thought it was all about the children. scratching
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Re: BREAKING # Obama Gives OK For BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS to Be Installed in ALL CARS
So wait...

who cares again?

By the amount of stupidity existing in this world and the number of idiots increasing every day, I don't mind this. At all. In fact, the more I grow up the more I find out that harsher control methods(with proper rules and regulations) are absolutely needed, because of the amount of stupid idiots one encounters. People that don't know shit. People that fall for propaganda. People that are racist and teach their kids the same thing. People that are religious cooks(irrelevant which religion). And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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And what help are BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS in CARS in that matter?

Just curious...
 Quoting: RoXY


Well lets say an idiot crashes into your car.

He claims it's your fault.

There are no other witnesses.

What will you do? You won't be able to prove shit conclusively. Especially if the cop you are dealing with is having a bad day and thinks something unpleasant of you because of the state of panic you are in. After all, you did have a child on the backseat.

Black box data is EVIDENCE. To counter the IDIOTS and ASSHOLES who roam this world.

You do know that for instance, in the Netherlands, the #1 cause of death is traffic accidents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


over here like 1 out of 7 cars is uninsured , so thats like 30 million cars. get hit by a scumbag with no license or insurance they will drive off if they can.
either way you are fucked first by the scumbags then by the scumbag insurance company
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DING DING DING, we have a WINNER!
RoXY  (OP)

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12/10/2012 08:17 AM
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Re: BREAKING # Obama Gives OK For BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS to Be Installed in ALL CARS
Second of all,

Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935

Really?

And how does that look like?

A cop showing his ID?

You must be joking!





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