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Just can't sleep

 
NordicNeoShaman
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12/30/2012 11:52 PM
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Just can't sleep
This is getting unbearable.

Several weeks gone already, and I just can't calm down.

No sleep, no rest.

Been alone for way too long.

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Re: Just can't sleep
I recommend a combination of melatonin and 5-HTP

I'm on my way right now :)
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Re: Just can't sleep
That sucks...

To much worries?
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Re: Just can't sleep
That sucks...

To much worries?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499591


Yeah, too much worries for several years without anyone to share them with.

Just no-one.

I'm a social being, having to cope with everything alone for so long is just killing me.

Even if there wasn't anything to worry about. And there is.
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Re: Just can't sleep
Like mentioned above 5-HTP works great and I also use Gabatrol (and a couple of glasses of red wine).

Soaking in a hot bath for 20 minutes can help relax you as well.

Good luck!
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Re: Just can't sleep
I recommend a combination of melatonin and 5-HTP

I'm on my way right now :)
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Seems to work for many, not me.

Diagnosed add with lots of energy.

It has to come out through direct connection with someone. I can manage perhaps a week or so without going crazy, and this sh*t has been going on for over three years now.

No amount of exercise or 5-HTP or anything has ever helped me.

There's exactly one thing that works for me, and that's company.

The only other way is just stay awake for as long as it takes for the body to come so totally exhausted the mind just has to give in. Which is not healthy, nor does it help fixing the feeling of complete lack of purpose of being here.

The worst part is, I know there's no way out of this. Just have to keep waiting.
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Re: Just can't sleep
Like mentioned above 5-HTP works great and I also use Gabatrol (and a couple of glasses of red wine).

Soaking in a hot bath for 20 minutes can help relax you as well.

Good luck!
 Quoting: Nemamiah


Well, I wish I had the money to get Gabatrol. Or red wine. Or a bath tub. =D

That's part of what I'm destined to worry about. No money at all for many years. Spent the Christmas alone with virtually nothing to eat, now it's the same with the new year - third time in a row.

Can't go anywhere, can't buy anything, can't do a god damn thing except wait for this phase to pass.

I really don't even have that tub. Or a shower. Or a decent toilet. Not even a kitchen sink - seriously.

Amazing, but that's the kind of bs I've agreed to swallow so just have to deal with it.

Weird enough, I do still have a laptop and an Internet connection.

A lot is going on and I'm expecting things to get easier soon, but it seems I'm feeling just worse every day the closer whatever-it-is comes.

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Re: Just can't sleep
When I can't sleep, I turn the TV on The Weather Channel and keep the volume low, helps me zone out....
Find what works for you, good luck hf

A body needs sleep, a lot of mending and healing goes on during that time, on a cellular level abduct
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I work for a company from Finland so I feel a connection with you. Don't know why but maybe because we are a small company and more connected to each other.

I would not shy away from medication. Ambien has helped me in the past when I have used it for a week or two. Make sure you are ready for bed and no alcohol consumption. After using this for a week I have been able to maintain a sleep habit for several months.

Be strong.
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When I can't sleep, I turn the TV on The Weather Channel and keep the volume low, helps me zone out....
Find what works for you, good luck hf

A body needs sleep, a lot of mending and healing goes on during that time, on a cellular level abduct
 Quoting: Lindalee


That's in fact a good idea, helps a lot to have someone talking. =D

Thanks, got to try this! ;)
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12/31/2012 12:16 AM
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Re: Just can't sleep
Get drunk.


Get some lotion.


Rub it a couple times.


That does the trick for many.


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I know a lot of people who r successfully using mmj to sleep.
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That's why there are bars. Alcohol has been used as a social lubricant for ages. It is fine in moderation. Get out. Rub elbows. Have a conversation. And a few pops will help you relax. Innocent enough.
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I work for a company from Finland so I feel a connection with you. Don't know why but maybe because we are a small company and more connected to each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240152


Nice to hear that, thanks! <3

I would not shy away from medication. Ambien has helped me in the past when I have used it for a week or two. Make sure you are ready for bed and no alcohol consumption. After using this for a week I have been able to maintain a sleep habit for several months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240152


Not impossible, however the financial side blocks anything like this from happening.

Don't have money for booze either. =D

Weed used to help but that was a long time ago, it works for a while but if the problems (stress etc.) persist then it's no good.

Be strong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240152


I will.

Thanks. <3
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Re: Just can't sleep
Your country has a great medical care program. You can get anything you want. There is no excuse.
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Re: Just can't sleep
Get drunk.

Get some lotion.

Rub it a couple times.

That does the trick for many.

burnit
 Quoting: Dirk 30748329


Believe me, tried this one too - extensively. =D Doesn't work either.

The amount of energy I've got is just a nightmare. There seems to be no way to shut me down other than having the right company. I'm very much hoping for her to appear somewhere soon enough; been searching for so long, then trying to forget, now searching again...
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Your country has a great medical care program. You can get anything you want. There is no excuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240152


Well I could tell you quite a few things of our "great" medical care program.

Lots of propaganda around regarding it.

I had to fight for months just to get my add diagnosed, and even then I had to pay. Using the public system, the whole process would have taken about a year.

It's a disaster over here too, although they like to paint nice pictures of this socialist little paradise of ours of course... ;)

Last Edited by NordicNeoShaman on 12/31/2012 12:28 AM
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That's why there are bars. Alcohol has been used as a social lubricant for ages. It is fine in moderation. Get out. Rub elbows. Have a conversation. And a few pops will help you relax. Innocent enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23229788


Requires: money.
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Your country has a great medical care program. You can get anything you want. There is no excuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240152


Well I could tell you quite a few things of our "great" medical care program.

Lots of propaganda around regarding it.

I had to fight for months just to get my add diagnosed, and even then I had to pay. Using the public system, the whole process would have taken about a year.

It's a disaster over here too, although they like to paint nice pictures of this socialist little paradise of ours...
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman


Okay so I don't know the system in Finland. How about having yourself admitted for a mental/sleeping disorder? Make it out to be worse than it is and get the help you need. You won't find the help you need online and especially here on GLP.
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Okay so I don't know the system in Finland. How about having yourself admitted for a mental/sleeping disorder? Make it out to be worse than it is and get the help you need. You won't find the help you need online and especially here on GLP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30240152


Thanks, but I think I'll manage. =D

Wasn't asking for help, just venting out the steam.

I know I've got to manage with this as long as it lasts.

Just hoping it won't be too long anymore. =)
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Re: Just can't sleep
I think you need a hug!!
We accept the reality of the world with which we are presented.
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I didn't see you were from Finland. That changes everything.

I am a full blooded Finlander. Born and raised in the US. My folks came from Turku. My relatives there own a popular line of ski wear and apparel. Starts with an L. Not that it matters. But I know Finns are chronically deficient in Vitamin D due to the lack of sunlight. Not to mention the tendency toward depression anyway.

Before you try anything else, start a serious retiming of the miracle Vitamin. Vitamin D cures depression in almost all cases. 5000 IU's a day. Give it a shot. You might be surprised.
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I think you need a hug!!
 Quoting: Ladydoom


Oh, I most certainly do... <3
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I didn't see you were from Finland. That changes everything.

I am a full blooded Finlander. Born and raised in the US. My folks came from Turku. My relatives there own a popular line of ski wear and apparel. Starts with an L. Not that it matters. But I know Finns are chronically deficient in Vitamin D due to the lack of sunlight. Not to mention the tendency toward depression anyway.

Before you try anything else, start a serious retiming of the miracle Vitamin. Vitamin D cures depression in almost all cases. 5000 IU's a day. Give it a shot. You might be surprised.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23229788


Hi, and nice to meet you! =D

I think I know the L you're referring to. ;)

Yeah this vitamin D thing has been up a lot.

Been taking a ridiculous overdose for a long time.

Just makes my head work even better, so sadly it doesn't help much either. =D
nns
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I didn't see you were from Finland. That changes everything.

I am a full blooded Finlander. Born and raised in the US. My folks came from Turku. My relatives there own a popular line of ski wear and apparel. Starts with an L. Not that it matters. But I know Finns are chronically deficient in Vitamin D due to the lack of sunlight. Not to mention the tendency toward depression anyway.

Before you try anything else, start a serious retiming of the miracle Vitamin. Vitamin D cures depression in almost all cases. 5000 IU's a day. Give it a shot. You might be surprised.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23229788


Hi, and nice to meet you! =D

I think I know the L you're referring to. ;)

Yeah this vitamin D thing has been up a lot.

Been taking a ridiculous overdose for a long time.

Just makes my head work even better, so sadly it doesn't help much either. =D
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman


Well hang in there. When I get down I put on the headphones and listen to Sophia Janook. She takes me away like Calgon.
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I think you need a hug!!
 Quoting: Ladydoom


Oh, I most certainly do... <3
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman


In fact, that's one of the few things that would actually help.

Can't remember when I had my last one.

It's amazing how easily you get dropped out of absolutely everything when leaving the System. There are still so few of those ready to make the move, that there's not nearly enough mass for anything new to emerge. It's coming through now though, hopefully leading into concrete changes very soon.
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I didn't see you were from Finland. That changes everything.

I am a full blooded Finlander. Born and raised in the US. My folks came from Turku. My relatives there own a popular line of ski wear and apparel. Starts with an L. Not that it matters. But I know Finns are chronically deficient in Vitamin D due to the lack of sunlight. Not to mention the tendency toward depression anyway.

Before you try anything else, start a serious retiming of the miracle Vitamin. Vitamin D cures depression in almost all cases. 5000 IU's a day. Give it a shot. You might be surprised.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23229788


Hi, and nice to meet you! =D

I think I know the L you're referring to. ;)

Yeah this vitamin D thing has been up a lot.

Been taking a ridiculous overdose for a long time.

Just makes my head work even better, so sadly it doesn't help much either. =D
 Quoting: NordicNeoShaman


check if your brain is getting some calcification

if so

Just 2 teaspoons of Organic apple cider vinegar and add One cup of water

2 times a day can help you sleep mate
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Re: Just can't sleep
L-Theanine, my friend.

200 mg at night if you are having trouble. It will chill you the fuck out without actually making you drowsy. Calms the nerves and thoughts.

You're quality of sleep will be better as well.

I recommend the Dragon Herbs "Tao In a Bottle" formula, simply because it has a number of healthy adaptogens in it as well for only a little more than L-Theanine on it's own.

BTW, L-Theanine is an amino acid that comes from Green Tea.
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Well hang in there. When I get down I put on the headphones and listen to Sophia Janook. She takes me away like Calgon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23229788


Yeah, can't do much else. =D

The thing is, I won't get down until there's a good reason for me to do so, such as someone to do it with. Just can't help it. I was doing a lot better 6 months ago or so, but since the summer things have been getting much more difficult. The "energies are shifting" most definitely, and although the direction is good, the process itself is not exactly easy or "nice".

Well, it's the end of the year. Let's hope it brings an end to unnecessary suffering too. =)
nns
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Re: Just can't sleep
L-Theanine, my friend.

200 mg at night if you are having trouble. It will chill you the fuck out without actually making you drowsy. Calms the nerves and thoughts.

You're quality of sleep will be better as well.

I recommend the Dragon Herbs "Tao In a Bottle" formula, simply because it has a number of healthy adaptogens in it as well for only a little more than L-Theanine on it's own.

BTW, L-Theanine is an amino acid that comes from Green Tea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30992870


Ok, thanks for the tip!

Unfortunately, my budget for anything is zero at the moment, but perhaps soon...
nns
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Re: Just can't sleep
check if your brain is getting some calcification

if so

Just 2 teaspoons of Organic apple cider vinegar and add One cup of water

2 times a day can help you sleep mate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31178414


Ok, this is new info!

And even I should be able to invest in some apple cider vinegar. =D

Will try this out, thanks! =)
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