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3. The Enoch Calendar
The calendar described in the Book of Enoch has many excellent features. One of the best is that it has a very simple, elegant pattern. My understanding of the text is that it has twelve months of 30 days and 4 other days which are quarter-year markers for the four seasons. Thus it totals exactly 364 days.[13] The names of the months are not given, but it is clear that each season is to be reckoned as the three months following the day heralding that season. Figure 1 illustrates the pattern, complete with suggested names.


The Enoch Calendar. There are several appealing aspects to such a scheme. Not only is it very structured with the same number of days every month, but every quarter-year contains 91 days, which is exactly 13 weeks. That would mean that every quarter would start on the same day of the week. It would also mean that a year would comprise exactly 52 weeks, instead of being one or two days in excess.
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little star, is this the calendar you were saying about the first of the year starting on the Spring equinox?
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That would put the Feast of Trumpets on the Autumn equinox.

little star are you out there?
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Hello SOT I am at a customers house, so I cannot talk right now. I will be on the road all day..Sorry
I just happened to check this sight and to show a customer this great sight.
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Yes this is correct...Good...
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little star, any thoughts on this part from that link? Do you add a week every 7th year or something?

"Intercalation. So what about those extra days needed to keep aligned with the seasons? Nowhere does the Book of Enoch forbid intercalation, meaning inserting extra "leap days" into the year to keep it aligned with the seasons. It does, however, seem to imply that the week should be an unbroken cycle, because surely one of the main reasons for choosing a 364-day year length is that it is exactly 52 weeks. Thus, the possibility arises of inserting an entire extra week every few years to bring the average to the needed 365.24 days. That would fulfill both the purpose of keeping aligned with the seasons and yet keeping the week an unbroken cycle of 7 days.

Actually, the Book of Enoch does appear to suggest an intercalation method which has been largely overlooked.[15] In discussing the motion of the moon, the angel tells Enoch what I believe to be the secret of when to insert the extra weeks:


"The moon brings on all the years exactly, that their stations may come neither too forwards nor too backwards a single day; but that the years may be changed with correct precision in 364 days. In three years the days are 1,092; . . . To the moon alone belong in three years 1,062 days . . . So that the moon has thirty days less than the sun and stars. . . . The year then becomes truly complete according to the station of the moons and the station of the sun . . ." (Enoch 74:11-17 {73:13-14, 12, 16})
In other words, it is the moon which "brings on all the years exactly," meaning that intercalation is to be done such that the new year (at the spring equinox) approximately aligns with the new moon. That will only be possible in certain years, but it provides a guideline for when to insert the extra one-week intervals. The angel seems to be pointing out that, in addition to its primary goal of aligning with the seasons of the sun, a secondary purpose of the Enoch Calendar is to keep aligned with the moon also. That makes it surprisingly similar to the Hebrew calendar, which has the primary goal of aligning with the moon, and a secondary goal of aligning with the sun."
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If you don't mind the months walking through the seasons, 13 28 day lunar months = 364 days...close anyway!
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Clearly, this 9 and 13-based system, the Compass of Enoch, and the 364-day calendar that they imply are among the greatest secrets preserved by the Priory of Sion, revealed for the first time in the pages of this publication.
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interesting
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you guys can't all hide on one side of the moon forever! ;) *gets the Raid*
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This is all I said to you SOT...


For example, Passover is supposed to be on the night of the full moon of spring, being 14 days after the new moon on or after the spring equinox.

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Notice it says or after the spring equinox?
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The moon never travels in precise movements.
If I take a stick and put it in the ground and mark it with a nail, each year the sticks shadow points right on the nail. The earth moves not in equal time each year. As a matter of fact, it wobbled and changed time slightly, did it not?
What I was getting at SOT is that the spring equinox is the base formula and "14 days latter is passover". It is always that way, know matter how fast or slow the world moves around the sun.
The equinox is a point in time when light and dark are equal, correct?
Notice that the time of events on Enoch calendar falls into play for the event of Jesus being born and etc. Did you over look that part of the article?
With that, I can say this; (with a big ? mark with it), that the Lord shall return close to the fall equinox.
Boy will I get a beating for making that statement.
We started this subject SOT for what reason? SPIRIT OF TRUTH!
If churches have passover based solely on the moon, and they do, they miss the mark each year. If churches use the equinox, the passover is 14 days later, each year, know matter what you think the article is telling you. The article agrees with my statement. It does claim that the equinox is the point to watch for the new moon, does it not?
Get the point now?
Churches have passover at differant times each year, and never base it on the equinox.. That is my point.
We are the children of the light, not the children of the dark..Gee I wonder if in the bible it talks about that or has that scripture? Sure it does...
All prophecies for satan is based on moons, night, darkness.
All prophecies of Christ is based on day, light, sun, brightness.
Read your bible with this understanding and you will find out I am stating true facts.
Read Daniel chapter 6 to end and watch the words of moons, days and etc...You will then see that the two witness's come and ten days later satan shows up, based on what I am sharing. Moon is not constant and the sun is constant.(figuratively speaking).
Okay.. does that help you understand my statement.
The reason I made my statement is to open your eyes to deeper meaning of verses with the words like moon, day, night and etc. in them..
Blessings to you SOT, and thanks for talking to me.
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little star, do you go by Enoch's calendar? I was trying to get more info on it because it looks interesting.
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"It does claim that the equinox is the point to watch for the new moon, does it not?
Get the point now?"

Are you saying the equinox is the new moon? Since the new moon represents spiritual rebirth the equinox represents rebirth into a new year. So the equinox is the "new moon" for the children of light?
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Another thought. The Feast of Trumpets falls on the Fall equinox right? That time pictures the return of Jesus Christ.Aren't we actually supposed to be celebrating the second coming of Jesus on that date? The Spring Feasts raise you from the dead and then on the Feast of Trumpets you celebrate being raised from the dead.

It does make a lot of sense to base these Feasts around the equinoxes. I do realize the spiritual meanings are what matters. Thanks for your help little star.
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If you don't mind the months walking through the seasons, 13 28 day lunar months = 364 days...close anyway!


not rocket science got it right ! there are 13 months of 28 days each, traditional Jewish tradition still follows the 13 month system. The leap year solution must be the same as the the ancient Mesoamericans used. Each year had 364 days, the 365th day was the beginning of the next following year. instead of adding the leap years every 4 years, they would let them accumulate and the add them at the end of a 52 year cycle.
As modern science says today is that the year has 365.25 days in it, take 365.25 and multiply it by 52=18993 minus the 13 days and you get 18980 which is the same as 365x52=18980
Enoch and the mayan calendar must be the same ! hmmm scratching
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This is very interesting.
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little star are you out there? I would like to know what kind of calendar you follow.
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Does the Enoch calendar go in a 454 pattern each quarter? 4 weeks 5 weeks 4 weeks = 91 days each quarter = 364 days a year
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The Enoch calendar compares with the Mayan pyramid

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The Great Pyramid was constructed of granite overlaid with 144,000 white limestone slabs cut to optical precision. The joints are consistently one fiftieth of an inch, that's about as thick as five pages of your Bible, but the cement was probably used as a lubricant to slide the blocks into position. None of these highly polished stones weigh less than a ton. Typing the Church of All Ages, Brother Branham said, "It's got to be honed. In that pyramid, you can take a razor blade, and you can't run between them rocks where the mortar was; it's so fitly put together" (Spoken Word Original Seed Jeff 62-0318E).

Our revelation must be Word upon Word, line upon line, each dispensation blending into the next.

Long ago the beautiful protective stones were carried away like the 144,000 Israelites, who'll be the Bride's guardian servants, were dispersed. But Matthew 24:31 says, "He shall send his angels (the two witnesses of Zechariah 4 and Revelation 11) with a great sound of a Trumpet, (the Seventh Trump of I Corinthians 15:52 and I Thessalonians 4:16) and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Revelation 7:4, "I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."
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This Enoch calendar is pretty interesting.
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Where did little star go?
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The months are named in the bible if you know how to read it Spirit.

The first month is Aviv. This is also when the ripened barley is sighted.

I also know that the 9th. month is Kislev. Hanukkah occurs on the 25ht. of this month.

This website shows the names of the rest of the months.

[link to www.jewfaq.org]
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The Enoch calendar looks like it has 12 months that go by a 454 pattern for each quarter. 4 weeks month 1, 5 weeks month 2, 4 weeks month 3. Then repeat 454 for the other quarters. 12 months, 52 weeks. Starts on the Spring equinox.
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72156 that link looks Talmud Jewy. Not good.
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A biblical month is either 29 or 30 days. It depends on when the new moon (crescent) is seen.

If the biblical year is 12 or 13 months long, depends on when the barley is seen.

It has NOTHING to do with equinox.

Read Ex. 12:2 & Ex. 9:31-33.
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Here are the names of the months -


Nissan aka Aviv
Iyar
Sivan
Tamuz
Av
Elul
Tishrei
Cheshvan
Kislev
Tevet
Shevat
Adar I
(Adar II)
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72156 what if the calendar is supposed to be based on the sun? What if the moon calendar is totally wrong?
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Those are all Babylonian Talmud names.
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Why not do the Feasts of the Lord on the Enoch calendar? Year starts on the equinox every year and 14 days later is Passover.





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