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S0L4RN1GHTM4R3
User ID: 20843469 United States 01/18/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't get it, it IS evidence, in order for you to disregard it you must have a LOGICAL reason to do so, or you're not being rational. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove that it's fake. Same as the amateur image which you also ignore. You don't get to assume everything is fake just because it disagrees with your beliefs. I assume things that disagree with my beliefs are real until I prove they're fake, hence the whole point of debunking things like this. I assumed the claim was true, I went out and found pictures like this one that show it is not. I do have a logical reason to do so. I disregard it because i'm in an argument with someone who would be helped by the contents of the picture. Holy shit, that is not a logical reason, but that is a transparent revealing of your fucking bias. I can fake a thousand photos of any type of event you want so I don't see how your holding this as intangible proof. Quoting: fuckingbiasedidiotFine, fake a photo of the fucking moon, get in a time machine, publish it in a book 20 years ago, and then take a video of the book you published 20 years ago and make sure I can find it in a library myself and verify you published it 20 years ago if I so choose. I'm willing to bet you don't have a fucking time machine. I damn sure don't understand your want to continue in an argument with someone you deemed fucking stupid. Quoting: broBecause statements such as this "I disregard it because i'm in an argument with someone who would be helped by the contents of the picture" are incredibly telling, useful, and revealing. I would do this 20x over just to get a statement like that out of you. I'm not doing this for your benefit, that's for damn sure. One would This argument is just so fucking stupid and we got to this point because you wanted to be right about small points in your arguments. Like the visibility of a launch pad.. lmao. Quoting: broYou know, rather than obsess about trying to prove me wrong on "small points" in my arguments where I'm clearly right, maybe you should shut up and start learning from me instead. You won't of course, but the amazingly revealing statements you make are worth it anwyay. And that, ladies and gentleman, is how you destroy the mentally ill. Oh Astro, why do you waste your time? "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy |
aliensbro
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aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/18/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro You don't get it, it IS evidence, in order for you to disregard it you must have a LOGICAL reason to do so, or you're not being rational. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove that it's fake. Same as the amateur image which you also ignore. You don't get to assume everything is fake just because it disagrees with your beliefs. I assume things that disagree with my beliefs are real until I prove they're fake, hence the whole point of debunking things like this. I assumed the claim was true, I went out and found pictures like this one that show it is not. I do have a logical reason to do so. I disregard it because i'm in an argument with someone who would be helped by the contents of the picture. Holy shit, that is not a logical reason, but that is a transparent revealing of your fucking bias. I can fake a thousand photos of any type of event you want so I don't see how your holding this as intangible proof. Quoting: fuckingbiasedidiotFine, fake a photo of the fucking moon, get in a time machine, publish it in a book 20 years ago, and then take a video of the book you published 20 years ago and make sure I can find it in a library myself and verify you published it 20 years ago if I so choose. I'm willing to bet you don't have a fucking time machine. I damn sure don't understand your want to continue in an argument with someone you deemed fucking stupid. Quoting: broBecause statements such as this "I disregard it because i'm in an argument with someone who would be helped by the contents of the picture" are incredibly telling, useful, and revealing. I would do this 20x over just to get a statement like that out of you. I'm not doing this for your benefit, that's for damn sure. One would This argument is just so fucking stupid and we got to this point because you wanted to be right about small points in your arguments. Like the visibility of a launch pad.. lmao. Quoting: broYou know, rather than obsess about trying to prove me wrong on "small points" in my arguments where I'm clearly right, maybe you should shut up and start learning from me instead. You won't of course, but the amazingly revealing statements you make are worth it anwyay. And that, ladies and gentleman, is how you destroy the mentally ill. Oh Astro, why do you waste your time? LOL. No I took a break from this extravaganza of biased information to clean up my living room. It's called getting out of the computer chair. |
aliensbro
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Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 01/18/2013 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aliensbro Arguing the point that you couldn't prove any of the things you had said. Any still haven't.. Still not seeing where i'm wrong here lol I proved the things I said already. Just because you automatically reject any evidence that disagrees with you means nothing. HOW IS A PICTURE PROOF? Can you hold it up and say, there is NO WAY that i'm coming to any other conclusion than the right one, based on the fact that there is NO WAY someone could've doctored this evidence. If you can't, then you haven't proven anything. And you most certainly are not able to do this with your argument There is NO logical reason to assume fakery of a photo taken 40 years ago, published in a book 20 years ago, when this phenomenon is supposedly new to within the last decade. If it didn't happen back then, there is no logical reason to assume they would fake a photo to make the moon look normal in a horizontal position if it really wasn't a normal position for the moon to be in. It's up to you to prove they faked it, or accept it, your choice. There is no logical alternative. Even worse for you, I also showed you an amateur photo published over 20 years ago as well. So now you can't even make ad hominem appeals to "NASA" as being untrustworthy. |
aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/18/2013 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro I proved the things I said already. Just because you automatically reject any evidence that disagrees with you means nothing. HOW IS A PICTURE PROOF? Can you hold it up and say, there is NO WAY that i'm coming to any other conclusion than the right one, based on the fact that there is NO WAY someone could've doctored this evidence. If you can't, then you haven't proven anything. And you most certainly are not able to do this with your argument There is NO logical reason to assume fakery of a photo taken 40 years ago, published in a book 20 years ago, when this phenomenon is supposedly new to within the last decade. If it didn't happen back then, there is no logical reason to assume they would fake a photo to make the moon look normal in a horizontal position if it really wasn't a normal position for the moon to be in. It's up to you to prove they faked it, or accept it, your choice. There is no logical alternative. Even worse for you, I also showed you an amateur photo published over 20 years ago as well. So now you can't even make ad hominem appeals to "NASA" as being untrustworthy. Oh god astro.. You are literally just too stupid to argue with. Who are you to tell me what a logical reason for me to do something is? Maybe when you own a courtroom, and have some kind of authority, you can force people to adhere to your unusual standards of what is considered factual evidence, but around here we don't take handouts from the same people who lie to us every other day when it benefits our argument. If you consider nasa or that amateur astronomer to be a factual and credible, and convincable source of information for you to base your belief in feel free to do so, but please do not ask that I lower myself to this level of stupidity. |
Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 01/18/2013 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aliensbro HOW IS A PICTURE PROOF? Can you hold it up and say, there is NO WAY that i'm coming to any other conclusion than the right one, based on the fact that there is NO WAY someone could've doctored this evidence. If you can't, then you haven't proven anything. And you most certainly are not able to do this with your argument There is NO logical reason to assume fakery of a photo taken 40 years ago, published in a book 20 years ago, when this phenomenon is supposedly new to within the last decade. If it didn't happen back then, there is no logical reason to assume they would fake a photo to make the moon look normal in a horizontal position if it really wasn't a normal position for the moon to be in. It's up to you to prove they faked it, or accept it, your choice. There is no logical alternative. Even worse for you, I also showed you an amateur photo published over 20 years ago as well. So now you can't even make ad hominem appeals to "NASA" as being untrustworthy. Oh god astro.. You are literally just too stupid to argue with. Who are you to tell me what a logical reason for me to do something is? You simply aren't being logical or rational, that's all there is to it. but around here we don't take handouts from the same people who lie to us every other day when it benefits our argument. Quoting: broYes, it "benefits" your argument to ignore any evidence that contradicts it. That is not a rational reason though. If you consider nasa or that amateur astronomer to be a factual and credible, and convincable source of information for you to base your belief in feel free to do so, but please do not ask that I lower myself to this level of stupidity. Quoting: broStupidity is ignoring it because it disagrees with your beliefs without actually doing a damn thing to prove it fake. |
aliensbro
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Dr. Astro
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Dr. Astro
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Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/18/2013 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol if you wanna search for support in a topic about nasa faking images I think you'll be reasonably outnumbered. Quoting: aliensbro The frequency of a claim has nothing to do with the veracity of a claim. I really don't give a damn how many people claim it. Any by the way, an amateur image not from NASA was provided as well. Dumbass. |
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Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/18/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just agree to disagree astro I've exhausted myself talking to you, personally i'ma go get high. You can have fun talking to yourself here Quoting: aliensbro Feel free to go kill as many of your few remaining brain cells as you like. In case you didn't notice (there's a little microphone icon in front of the thread title) I've had such a good time disproving this bullshit I even made a voice chat room for this thread. |
Waterbug
User ID: 1295673 United States 01/18/2013 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An observation is not debunkable.. In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' |
Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/18/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. lacking access to historical data Quoting: waterbugHistorical data is available. and modern measurement techniques, Quoting: waterbugAlso available. and the know how to use them.. Quoting: waterbugWell that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. Quoting: waterbugHere's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. Quoting: waterbugNo true scotsman fallacy. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD
User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/18/2013 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol prove any of the things you have said astro it's not hard for all to see you can not. SHILL=DEAD Astro can eat a bag of dicks i'm so done with this thread. Quoting: aliensbro You're an effing troll, and everybody knows it. I don't want a copy as it serves no purpose.. it's digital imagery astro. When are you gonna realize pictures are not proof? That's like saying obviously tom cruise is ascended.. he was in war of the worlds. Quoting: aliensbro Yet you are completely credulous of the letters on your digital screen when they are signed Waterbug (who, for all we know might just be a spambot). The moment a person forms a theory his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. — Thomas Jefferson You just spent the last ten minutes arguing with me as if they could have. You're a fucking moron. Arguing the point that you couldn't prove any of the things you had said. Any still haven't.. Still not seeing where i'm wrong here lol Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. — Thomas Jefferson And a bonus: Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
#Geomagnetic_Storm#
User ID: 32528536 United States 01/18/2013 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just agree to disagree astro I've exhausted myself talking to you, personally i'ma go get high. You can have fun talking to yourself here Quoting: aliensbro Feel free to go kill as many of your few remaining brain cells as you like. In case you didn't notice (there's a little microphone icon in front of the thread title) I've had such a good time disproving this bullshit I even made a voice chat room for this thread. |
Waterbug
User ID: 1295673 United States 01/18/2013 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. lacking access to historical data Quoting: waterbugHistorical data is available. and modern measurement techniques, Quoting: waterbugAlso available. and the know how to use them.. Quoting: waterbugWell that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. Quoting: waterbugHere's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. Quoting: waterbugNo true scotsman fallacy. |
Rxel
User ID: 9473222 Lithuania 01/19/2013 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moon visibility is also affected by Parallax. It means, that in different latitudes, Moon will look differently. Parallax is counted, assuming, that Earth is round sphere. But what is strange, the same day OP posted it, here, where I am, was cloudy, but possible to see something. There was no Moon at all. And we are more or less on same latitude. Also notice, all images of Earth from cosmos is copyrighted by NASA. Moon in his movement has many anomalies, but this is too much. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD
User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/19/2013 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You really do live in another dimension, don't you? [link to www.youtube.com] Ever heard of, just to name an example, the SPOT satellites? Also this (emphasis mine): "NASA still images, audio files and video generally are not copyrighted. You may use NASA imagery, video and audio material for educational or informational purposes, including photo collections, textbooks, public exhibits and Internet Web pages. This general permission extends to personal Web pages." [link to www.nasa.gov] People keep making this claim, and keep failing to provide any evidence for it. And you know what they say about assertions without evidence... Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
Dr. Astro
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/19/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to Quoting: Waterbug refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. lacking access to historical data Quoting: waterbugHistorical data is available. and modern measurement techniques, Quoting: waterbugAlso available. and the know how to use them.. Quoting: waterbugWell that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. Quoting: waterbugHere's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. Quoting: waterbugNo true scotsman fallacy. Who cares what you or any other average joe is incapable of? Amateur astronomers are not average joes at astronomy. And yes, classifying it as off is a conclusion, not an observation. You missed the point. |
Waterbug
User ID: 1295673 United States 01/19/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to Quoting: Waterbug refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. lacking access to historical data Quoting: waterbugHistorical data is available. and modern measurement techniques, Quoting: waterbugAlso available. and the know how to use them.. Quoting: waterbugWell that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. Quoting: waterbugHere's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. Quoting: waterbugNo true scotsman fallacy. Who cares what you or any other average joe is incapable of? Amateur astronomers are not average joes at astronomy. And yes, classifying it as off is a conclusion, not an observation. You missed the point. That was the point. Let me clarify it for you.. The average Joe is not capable of measuring these anomalies. All the average Joe can do is make observations. They depend on experts to do their jobs with integrity. An observation by an average Joe is not debunkable. He sees what he sees. |
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aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just agree to disagree astro I've exhausted myself talking to you, personally i'ma go get high. You can have fun talking to yourself here Quoting: aliensbro Feel free to go kill as many of your few remaining brain cells as you like. In case you didn't notice (there's a little microphone icon in front of the thread title) I've had such a good time disproving this bullshit I even made a voice chat room for this thread. Good maybe someone will tell you straight up your a fuckin moron then. |
aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol prove any of the things you have said astro it's not hard for all to see you can not. SHILL=DEAD Astro can eat a bag of dicks i'm so done with this thread. Quoting: aliensbro You're an effing troll, and everybody knows it. I don't want a copy as it serves no purpose.. it's digital imagery astro. When are you gonna realize pictures are not proof? That's like saying obviously tom cruise is ascended.. he was in war of the worlds. Quoting: aliensbro Yet you are completely credulous of the letters on your digital screen when they are signed Waterbug (who, for all we know might just be a spambot). The moment a person forms a theory his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. — Thomas Jefferson You just spent the last ten minutes arguing with me as if they could have. You're a fucking moron. Arguing the point that you couldn't prove any of the things you had said. Any still haven't.. Still not seeing where i'm wrong here lol Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. — Thomas Jefferson And a bonus: Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Take your dick out of astro for a second and put a condom on, he's fuckin dirty. Your so far up his ass I doubt you even know what this thread is about anymore. And the prick still hasn't stated a single provable fact. Sheep. |
aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to Quoting: Waterbug refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. lacking access to historical data Quoting: waterbugHistorical data is available. and modern measurement techniques, Quoting: waterbugAlso available. and the know how to use them.. Quoting: waterbugWell that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. Quoting: waterbugHere's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. Quoting: waterbugNo true scotsman fallacy. No they don't. He's an amateur keyboard astronomer with a GLP following. In other words a fucking loser, who cites his own credibility and sits on conspiracy sites all day debunking an issue he deems "fucking stupid". Your no expert, your a fucking shill astro. His pedestal needs to be demolished. And his followers need a new leader. |
ehecatl
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aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moon visibility is also affected by Parallax. It means, that in different latitudes, Moon will look differently. Parallax is counted, assuming, that Earth is round sphere. But what is strange, the same day OP posted it, here, where I am, was cloudy, but possible to see something. There was no Moon at all. And we are more or less on same latitude. Quoting: Rxel Also notice, all images of Earth from cosmos is copyrighted by NASA. Moon in his movement has many anomalies, but this is too much. Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an aenda. |
aliensbro
(OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to Quoting: Waterbug refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. ... Historical data is available. ... Also available. ... Well that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. ... Here's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. ... No true scotsman fallacy. Who cares what you or any other average joe is incapable of? Amateur astronomers are not average joes at astronomy. And yes, classifying it as off is a conclusion, not an observation. You missed the point. That was the point. Let me clarify it for you.. The average Joe is not capable of measuring these anomalies. All the average Joe can do is make observations. They depend on experts to do their jobs with integrity. An observation by an average Joe is not debunkable. He sees what he sees. Somebody gets it. |