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Rock music degenerates your health-"Rock music can literally kill"

 
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Try Handel, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Haydn. Rock music is bad for you physically, mentally, spiritually and a degenerative force. Read these links for your education. Rock music harms plants, and in my opinion, humans as well. There is not doubt in my mind that pop, rock, hip hop, and jazz are all detrimental to life. Read these links:

[link to www.dovesong.com]

[link to www.av1611.org]

"Rock music can literally kill.

The view that music is amoral or neutral with no inherent power to effect is completely proven false by extensive research performed on plant life. Rock music, with it's hard driving beat, played to plants will kill the plants - while soothing classical music causes the plants to grow twice as fast.

"Paradoxical as it may seem, music's effect upon the more primitive vegetable kingdom is one of the most convincing methods of all for proving that music does affect life, including human life. For experiments conducted with humans, and even, to some extent, with animals, have the extra factor of the mind to contend with. This means that while men or animals may be demonstrated to have been affected by tones, the effect may not have been a direct or objective one. Rather, the effect upon the body may have been caused by the mind's subjective reaction to the music heard. In the case of plant-music research, however, psychological factors cannot really be said to be present. If music can be shown to affect plants, then such effects have to be due to the objective influence of the tones directly upon the cells and processes of the life-form."

"An intensive series of studies carried out by Dorothy Retallack of Denver, Colorado, demonstrated the effects of different kinds of music on a variety of household plants. The experiments were controlled under strict scientific conditions, and the plants were kept within large closed cabinets on wheels in which light, temperature and air were automatically regulated. Three hours a day of acid rock, played through a loudspeaker at the side of the cabinet, was found to stunt and damage squash plants, philodendrons and corn in under four weeks. Mrs Retallack played the music of the two different Denver radio stations to two groups of petunias. The radio stations were KIMN (a rock station) and KLIR (a semiclassical station). The Denver Post reported:

`The petunias listening to KIMN refused to bloom. Those on KLIR developed six beautiful blooms. By the end of the second week, the KIMN petunias were LEANING AWAY from the radio and showing very erratic growth. The petunia blooms hearing KLIR were all leaning TOWARD THE SOUND. Within a month all plants exposed to rock music DIED.

In another experiment, conducted over three weeks, Dorothy Retallack played the music of Led Zeppelin and Vanilla Fudge to one group of beans, squash (marrow), corn, morning glory and coleus; she also played contemporary avant-garde atonal music to a second group; and, as a control, played nothing to a third group. Within ten days, the plants exposed to Led Zeppelin and Vanilla Fudge were all LEANING AWAY FROM THE SPEAKER. After three weeks they were stunted and DYING. The beans exposed to the 'new music' leaned 15 degrees from the speaker and were found to have middle-sized roots. The plants left in silence had the longest roots and grew the highest. Further, it was discovered that plants to which placid, devotional music was played not only grew two inches taller than plants left in silence, but also leaned TOWARDS THE SPEAKER. (Tame, David The Secret Power of Music, p. 142 - 144)

All the plants that were next to the rock music - LEANED AWAY FROM THE SPEAKERS - trying to get away from the music! And to show that it was not just the noise itself - the plants next to the classical music - LEANED TOWARD THE SPEAKERS - actually trying to get closer to the music.

In the end - ALL the plants next to the rock music - DIED!"
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Could be true.

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That's a crock of crap.

My plants get a daily dose of heavy metal music and I am forever trimming them because they grow so well..

As for my health.. I am fantastic :)
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there's a research Budget well spent...we're talking Petunias here, and beans and squash, all of which have a delicate constitution and flower.

If Dorothy had used a Cactus and watered it tequila while playing it this melody, her results might have been different:....



It's all relative...
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This might be true... I've killed a bunch of speakers rockin' out!

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Cows give more milk when listening to classical music!

Good thing I hate milk and love rock music!
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Umm rock/metal music has been around for a long time, if its effects were lethal to humans we'd know by now would we not
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What a pile of horse-shit. I have 2 plants by the speakers which have endured the likes of Beherit, Watain, Deathspell Omega, Satanic Warmaster, and are still growing just as strong the day they were first bought.

Justin Bieber however..now thats shit to make you slit your wrists.
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Used to listen to rock music all the time, but no more. Took me awhile to realize that it really is a "Highway to Hell", one of many ways to Hell in fact.
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Used to listen to rock music all the time, but no more. Took me awhile to realize that it really is a "Highway to Hell", one of many ways to Hell in fact.
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Yes, it's amazing how evil this music really is, the dysfunction it promotes as "cool." I know that people have been conditioned to mock the idea that rock music is Satanic, by the same media which promotes rock music. I certainly feel much better listening to some classical music than any rock music.
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Drug use and dysfunctional living in general is promoted in popular music, implicitly if not directly. Listening to traditional classical music promotes better thinking and virtue in general.
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Used to listen to rock music all the time, but no more. Took me awhile to realize that it really is a "Highway to Hell", one of many ways to Hell in fact.
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This is rock music and I don't think these good people think they're going to hell...

[link to www.youtube.com]

I love this music and play it LOUD!!!! I've even been to one of their concerts...What an awesome experience...This song gives me nice shivers...It's so powerful..

Each to his own...
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That's a crock of crap.

My plants get a daily dose of heavy metal music and I am forever trimming them because they grow so well..

As for my health.. I am fantastic :)
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Exactly!

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Drug use and dysfunctional living in general is promoted in popular music, implicitly if not directly. Listening to traditional classical music promotes better thinking and virtue in general.
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Not quite true...look at lives of some of the legends of Classical music...Mozart, in particular, was not a very nice person, and most of his music portrays his 'discontent' with society...he's like a rap, or hip hop star, from the past.
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What bullshit

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My plants listened to the B52's and they uprooted themselves and did back flips.
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What if they played the classical music at 120 decibels as they seem to have done for the rock music?

They do not mention decibels for each do they?

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basicly what you call classical music is what they called extreme in their time, just like kiss was the devil when they started....


classical music , when you switch the violins for guitars, cello with a bass, etc..is basicly metal..


metal is way more complex then you think



your theory is BS bud.....get back to bieber




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What bullshit
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Cultivating flexibility of mind is a useful skill to have. For example, thinking through an opposing viewpoint to see if it has merit. Your outlook is very limited if you cannot consider alternative viewpoints, opinions, and thoughts. It is the function of the media to condition people to think a certain way, and dismiss people who have valuable ideas to contribute. It is a part of the social control complex which we tend to grow up in.
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basicly what you call classical music is what they called extreme in their time, just like kiss was the devil when they started....


classical music , when you switch the violins for guitars, cello with a bass, etc..is basicly metal..


metal is way more complex then you think



your theory is BS bud.....get back to bieber





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The music you listen to is much more closely related to Bieber than what I listen to, in terms of degenerative attributes. I am not a fan of Justin Bieber, which you would realize if you read my post, decrying pop music as well as rock.

I am well aware of the complexity of some metal music. Complexity does not translate into health. The harmonics of the instruments used in metal, the tones in metal music create a sinister atmosphere. Metal music also uses sinister, fast-paced percussion. That is quite different from most classical music. Granted, some classical music can evoke a dark atmosphere. The classical music I listen to creates an atmosphere much more suited for studying and thinking about the loftier ideals in life.
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what about this classical music?

it caused people to riot when it was premiered.
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Blue note

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What bullshit
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Cultivating flexibility of mind is a useful skill to have. For example, thinking through an opposing viewpoint to see if it has merit. Your outlook is very limited if you cannot consider alternative viewpoints, opinions, and thoughts. It is the function of the media to condition people to think a certain way, and dismiss people who have valuable ideas to contribute. It is a part of the social control complex which we tend to grow up in.
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Dear Sir/Ma'am...this argument works both ways. Dorothy's study points to just one conclusion...rock music is bad for people because it killed vegetables - (her limited observation) and then equates her findings to Human Beings. That is quite arrogant imo. Where was the test conducted (environment)and over what period?...soil conditions, and the specimens used, given the fact that most vegetable genes are spliced with things like fish and chicken, not to mention man-made pesticides...maybe she got a bad batch from Monsanto Incorp (Pty)Ltd and the terminator gene kicked in...Vegetables/Plants grown without the right Intellectual Property rights don't get to the budding phase of growth.
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what about this classical music?

it caused people to riot when it was premiered.
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It was different from previous works, and many people disliked it, thus the riots.
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What bullshit
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Cultivating flexibility of mind is a useful skill to have. For example, thinking through an opposing viewpoint to see if it has merit. Your outlook is very limited if you cannot consider alternative viewpoints, opinions, and thoughts. It is the function of the media to condition people to think a certain way, and dismiss people who have valuable ideas to contribute. It is a part of the social control complex which we tend to grow up in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323



Dear Sir/Ma'am...this argument works both ways. Dorothy's study points to just one conclusion...rock music is bad for people because it killed vegetables - (her limited observation) and then equates her findings to Human Beings. That is quite arrogant imo. Where was the test conducted (environment)and over what period?...soil conditions, and the specimens used, given the fact that most vegetable genes are spliced with things like fish and chicken, not to mention man-made pesticides...maybe she got a bad batch from Monsanto Incorp (Pty)Ltd and the terminator gene kicked in...Vegetables/Plants grown without the right Intellectual Property rights don't get to the budding phase of growth.
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


The other link to av1611.org provides additional examples of how musical genres have negative effects. Taken together, these provide compelling evidence that there is probably a degenerative effect elicited by certain musical styles. Have you studied cymatics?

[link to www.reversespins.com]

[link to www.cymascope.com]
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There is also the role of intent in the creation of music. Many rock musicians have some involvement in Satanism and black magick. Consciousness can, if Emoto's research is correct, influence matter.

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What bullshit
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Cultivating flexibility of mind is a useful skill to have. For example, thinking through an opposing viewpoint to see if it has merit. Your outlook is very limited if you cannot consider alternative viewpoints, opinions, and thoughts. It is the function of the media to condition people to think a certain way, and dismiss people who have valuable ideas to contribute. It is a part of the social control complex which we tend to grow up in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323



Dear Sir/Ma'am...this argument works both ways. Dorothy's study points to just one conclusion...rock music is bad for people because it killed vegetables - (her limited observation) and then equates her findings to Human Beings. That is quite arrogant imo. Where was the test conducted (environment)and over what period?...soil conditions, and the specimens used, given the fact that most vegetable genes are spliced with things like fish and chicken, not to mention man-made pesticides...maybe she got a bad batch from Monsanto Incorp (Pty)Ltd and the terminator gene kicked in...Vegetables/Plants grown without the right Intellectual Property rights don't get to the budding phase of growth.
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


The other link to av1611.org provides additional examples of how musical genres have negative effects. Taken together, these provide compelling evidence that there is probably a degenerative effect elicited by certain musical styles. Have you studied cymatics?

[link to www.reversespins.com]

[link to www.cymascope.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323


Dr. John Diamond published a book called BK, Behavioral Kinesiology, later changed to Your Body Doesn't Lie. He relates the story of feeling terrible one fine day in New York City. Being a health practitioner set him on a path of deduction. He wanted to know what common elements over two days made him feel ill. The only thing he could come up with was a visit to the record store Sam Goodys each day. But why would that effect him that way? The clue came when he realized the same song was played both days in the store. Voila! the common denominator. He just happened to be an expert in kinesiology and so began his odyssey of muscle testing himself and other people listening to various kinds of rock and roll for that is what he heard in Sam Goodys.

The operative words...He didn't like it and he went home and the Daisies picked up his negative attitude and died..I agree, plant's, like animals, are sensitive to their surroundings...people in a bad mood affect them much more than me bouncing around.. happily listening to Led Zepplin...Plants feel my happy vibes and my African Violets Love Me...and they can be very moody...





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