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Even if you had an abortion, God wants to forgive you, it's up to you

 
Don'tBeAfraid  (OP)

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Extremely sick liberal ad celebrating 40 years of Roe v Wade.

This is how evil they have become. The ad was sponsored by Center for Reproductive Rights.

[link to www.wnd.com]
Read what one African-American had to say about it.
"Day Gardner, a former Miss Delaware and president of the National Black Pro-Life Union, was equally horrified.

“I found it totally disgusting. It turned my stomach. I thought the whole thing was very demonic because he’s sitting there as a member of the black community and we have the highest abortion rate. As a man, he’s a bad example when the black community has such a problem with its men stepping up to be the fathers their children need. This is so evil and so wrong on many levels."

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[link to www.endroe.org]

Most people have never heard of Doe v. Bolton, the court case that was heard at the same time as Roe v. Wade. The plaintiff named within the case now is saying that her name was forged by her attorney and that she never intended to be used in this manner.

"In reality, as Sandra has since testified in court and before Congress, she never wanted an abortion at all. She went to an Atlanta legal-aid office in an attempt to divorce her husband and get her children back.[3] She claims that her lawyer, Margie Pitts Hames, tricked her into signing the affidavit that formed the basis of the plaintiff's charges in Doe. "I do not believe it is my signature on the affidavit, and Margie either forged my signature or slipped this document in with other papers while I was signing divorce papers. I never told Margie that I wanted an abortion. The facts stated in the affidavit in Doe v. Bolton are not true."[4]

According to her testimony, there is no record at Grady memorial hospital of her alleged application for an abortion. In fact, she says, she was so opposed to the idea of having an abortion that when her mother and Hames tried to make her have one she fled to Oklahoma until they promised that she could keep her child![5] But Hames managed to persuade her to return and appear in court as a plaintiff in the initial hearing of the Doe case:

The way she phrased it to me, it was a woman's liberation right. She said, "If you're working a job, and you're doing the same job as a man, don't you want to make the same salary? I said, "Well, of course." So that's what I thought the issue was about and everything. It's really hard for people to believe something like that. God knows my heart. He knows the truth. I really was that naive and that stupid.[6]"

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Norma McCovey the plantiff in Roe v. Wade is now adamantly a pro-life advocate.

There's two other parts to the documentary at that channel.
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Does God ever feel regret or shame for drowning all those babies in Noah's Flood?
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Does God ever feel regret or shame for drowning all those babies in Noah's Flood?
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Who are you to presume to question such things? Does admitting that God has that power, doesn't that make you fear the consequences of challenging God?

Having personal doubts is understandable. Saying them in such a way as to influence others is very very dangerous. Such persuasion is analogous to teaching.

Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body. James 3:1-2
...
There are few things that I fear. Torture is one, for all fear that those some boast otherwise. To see my children suffer is another, particularly if I am the cause of such suffering.

I don't fear death anymore, for I know where I am going in the next life beyond this one.

What I fear most is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. That is the unforgivable sin, the one that Jesus warned about.

All of us need forgiveness from others, and yet sometimes they cannot forgive us. The Psalmist however says that:
as far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us. Psalm 103:12

...except for Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit:
32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Matthew 12:32

What you have repeated said AC, you damn yourself at enormous peril.

Death is brief suffering. Eternal damnation in Hellfire is pure horror.

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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge. Proverbs 1:7

“And now, O Israel, what does the LORD your God ask of you but to fear the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Fear the LORD your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name. He is your praise; he is your God, who performed for you those great and awesome wonders you saw with your own eyes.” Deutoronomy 10:12, 20-21

What can this mean? Should we run in terror from an angry vengeful God. I don't think so, though unbelievers think that quite frequently.

In Proverbs, the Hebrew word is YIRAH.
"The word translated "fear" in many versions of the Bible comes from the Hebrew word yirah, which has a range of meaning in the Scriptures. Sometimes it refers to the fear we feel in anticipation of some danger or pain, but it can also can mean "awe" or "reverence." In this latter sense, yirah includes the idea of wonder, amazement, mystery, astonishment, gratitude, admiration, and even worship (like the feeling you get when gazing from the edge of the Grand Canyon). The "fear of the LORD" therefore includes an overwhelming sense of the glory, worth, and beauty of the One True God. "

[link to www.hebrew4christians.com]

There are so many layers and layers of meaning in that word.

YHWH is a GOD who has created the vast celestial heavens of galaxies and yet knows your name and wants to be a relationship with you. Why should such an omnipotent omniscient being care for us? I don't know, but:

5You have enclosed me behind and before,
And laid Your hand upon me.

6Such knowledge is too wonderful for me;
It is too high, I cannot attain to it. Psalm 139: 5-6

If you will only stop being afraid of your sin, practice Truth, and ask God into your heart, then God can call you.

"20“For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.21“But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.” John 3:20-21


The alternative is eternal seperation from God, as so many posters have clearly chosen...

Don't reject God at your peril.

9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9

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OP do you support birth control methods. If so you are just as bad as the pro-abortionist.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav

Why are you so focuses upon me? You should remove the log from your eyes first then the speck from mine.

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.Matthew 7:5

Condemnation does not come from God. It comes from Satan. Don't do Satan's work.

I don't use birth control by taking or using anything. Don't make assumptions. How sad it is for someone who is pretending to be a Christian to condemn a brother or sister.

If one is married, one can measure the basal temperature, look at the vaginal mucus, and carefully avoid making love on certain days and avoid pregnancy with an accuracy which exceeds 97%. See my sig for a long discussion of that simple process.

But that is not the issue. The issue is helping people find God and be forgiven and enter into a relationship of love.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I used this method when I was in a relationship and it worked 100 percent the 2 ish or less years I did it. Search "Ovulation method". It is the one that uses mucus. You gotta pay a lot of attention to to your body if you're a woman, it's sort of a pain in the ass but I was happy with it while I did it.
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OP do you support birth control methods. If so you are just as bad as the pro-abortionist.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav

Why are you so focuses upon me? You should remove the log from your eyes first then the speck from mine.

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.Matthew 7:5

Condemnation does not come from God. It comes from Satan. Don't do Satan's work.

I don't use birth control by taking or using anything. Don't make assumptions. How sad it is for someone who is pretending to be a Christian to condemn a brother or sister.

If one is married, one can measure the basal temperature, look at the vaginal mucus, and carefully avoid making love on certain days and avoid pregnancy with an accuracy which exceeds 97%. See my sig for a long discussion of that simple process.

But that is not the issue. The issue is helping people find God and be forgiven and enter into a relationship of love.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I used this method when I was in a relationship and it worked 100 percent the 2 ish or less years I did it. Search "Ovulation method". It is the one that uses mucus. You gotta pay a lot of attention to to your body if you're a woman, it's sort of a pain in the ass but I was happy with it while I did it.
 Quoting: CeeLite


Thank you for your comments. If both the man and the woman diligently follow it, then yes it is very accurate.

See:
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
Natural Family Planning Method As Effective As Contraceptive Pill, New Research Finds Feb. 21, 2007

There are places which precisely explain how to journal your body changes and measure them and carefully keep track of ovulation. It really only means avoiding intercourse on a very few days, and there are alternatives to intercourse anyway.

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hi,this subject is close to my heart.when i was 17 and already a mum to two young boys,i found out i was pregnant again.i felt like i couldnt cope going through pregnancy again as my youngest was just 5 months old and id been really ill throughout.anyways i was distraught,i went to the docs to begin getting it sorted out.i was so sad about it,i didnt believe in abortion.i cried out to god asking if hed forgive me if i did it.a day before the appointment,i had a misscarrage and remember being so happy about it.now i just look back in total grief at what i was gonna do.i still think about my lil baby that was so not wanted by me,god took the baby back.i greive for the child that i didnt want and i feel so discusted and sad and ashamed.its so easy,when your young and everybodys telling you its ok to get rid of your baby.their responsible also aswell as the mother. I pray that god will forgive me for my selfishness.
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Here are some links on it
This works, we were very "active"
[link to www.thebillingsovulationmethod.org]

[link to www.thebillingsovulationmethod.org]

[link to www.thebillingsovulationmethod.org]
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hi,this subject is close to my heart.when i was 17 and already a mum to two young boys,i found out i was pregnant again.i felt like i couldnt cope going through pregnancy again as my youngest was just 5 months old and id been really ill throughout.anyways i was distraught,i went to the docs to begin getting it sorted out.i was so sad about it,i didnt believe in abortion.i cried out to god asking if hed forgive me if i did it.a day before the appointment,i had a misscarrage and remember being so happy about it.now i just look back in total grief at what i was gonna do.i still think about my lil baby that was so not wanted by me,god took the baby back.i greive for the child that i didnt want and i feel so discusted and sad and ashamed.its so easy,when your young and everybodys telling you its ok to get rid of your baby.their responsible also aswell as the mother. I pray that god will forgive me for my selfishness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29396448

[link to www.gotquestions.org]

When we ask God for sincere forgiveness, then God makes the sin as far as the East is from the West, literally infinite by definition. We don't need to keep asking for forgiveness.

"Yes, we should confess our sins to God as soon as we are aware that we have sinned. However, we do not always need to be asking God for forgiveness. When we place our faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of our sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Believers do not have to keep asking for forgiveness or repenting in order to have their sins forgiven. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and when they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43)."
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OP do you support birth control methods. If so you are just as bad as the pro-abortionist.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav

Why are you so focuses upon me? You should remove the log from your eyes first then the speck from mine.

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.Matthew 7:5

Condemnation does not come from God. It comes from Satan. Don't do Satan's work.

I don't use birth control by taking or using anything. Don't make assumptions. How sad it is for someone who is pretending to be a Christian to condemn a brother or sister.

If one is married, one can measure the basal temperature, look at the vaginal mucus, and carefully avoid making love on certain days and avoid pregnancy with an accuracy which exceeds 97%. See my sig for a long discussion of that simple process.

But that is not the issue. The issue is helping people find God and be forgiven and enter into a relationship of love.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I used this method when I was in a relationship and it worked 100 percent the 2 ish or less years I did it. Search "Ovulation method". It is the one that uses mucus. You gotta pay a lot of attention to to your body if you're a woman, it's sort of a pain in the ass but I was happy with it while I did it.
 Quoting: CeeLite


Thank you for your comments. If both the man and the woman diligently follow it, then yes it is very accurate.

See:
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
Natural Family Planning Method As Effective As Contraceptive Pill, New Research Finds Feb. 21, 2007

There are places which precisely explain how to journal your body changes and measure them and carefully keep track of ovulation. It really only means avoiding intercourse on a very few days, and there are alternatives to intercourse anyway.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


It's MORE reliable than the pill. Pill isn't reliable at all. A lot of women get pregnate while on it, as well as other methods.
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hi,this subject is close to my heart.when i was 17 and already a mum to two young boys,i found out i was pregnant again.i felt like i couldnt cope going through pregnancy again as my youngest was just 5 months old and id been really ill throughout.anyways i was distraught,i went to the docs to begin getting it sorted out.i was so sad about it,i didnt believe in abortion.i cried out to god asking if hed forgive me if i did it.a day before the appointment,i had a misscarrage and remember being so happy about it.now i just look back in total grief at what i was gonna do.i still think about my lil baby that was so not wanted by me,god took the baby back.i greive for the child that i didnt want and i feel so discusted and sad and ashamed.its so easy,when your young and everybodys telling you its ok to get rid of your baby.their responsible also aswell as the mother. I pray that god will forgive me for my selfishness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29396448

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When we ask God for sincere forgiveness, then God makes the sin as far as the East is from the West, literally infinite by definition. We don't need to keep asking for forgiveness.

"Yes, we should confess our sins to God as soon as we are aware that we have sinned. However, we do not always need to be asking God for forgiveness. When we place our faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, all of our sins are forgiven. That includes past, present, and future, big or small. Believers do not have to keep asking for forgiveness or repenting in order to have their sins forgiven. Jesus died to pay the penalty for all of our sins, and when they are forgiven, they are all forgiven (Colossians 1:14; Acts 10:43)."

I hope you're in a relationship with God, for God deeply is aware of your heart and loves you completely. Finding a church home where you can not only learn more about God but also serve God and others will only deepen your sense of being loved.
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It's MORE reliable than the pill. Pill isn't reliable at all. A lot of women get pregnate while on it, as well as other methods.
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Well, abstention is 100% effective, but I don't agree that the natural method is 100% effective. That's not bourne out by research, but that's not important.

The Pill is composed of estrogen and progesterone in varying amounts based upon the time period the Pill is taken. That's how it works.

When taking an unnatural amount of those hormones, then women are getting a MASSIVE dose. A hormone is like a drop of water in an olymic swimming pool of water. That's the natural way the body produces hormones by comparison. The massive dose can make women quite ill.

I'm sure some readers have stopped taking the Pill for such reasons and then had a massive menstruation as a result the first time after cessation. It honestly is bad for the body as should be self-evident.

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