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Reincarnation Stories - Do you remember past lives? Did grandpa come back as your son?

 
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When I visited Germany, I had weird feelings around central nazi propaganda places in Munich as if I could feel the residue energy from the past. I'm also drawn to everything jewish and don't know if my family converted sometime in the past, but I've been told that I have a jewish soul that incarnated in a non-jewish body in this life.
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Not sure if you are aware of this or not; but there is a theory among some Orthodox Jewish mystics that the "Jewish soul" can only 'incarnate' in a Jewish body; whereas a "Gentile soul", which is really no different than an animal soul, can only incarnate in a Gentile body.

But these people obviously have no Knowledge whatsoever that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; in other words, that there is no such thing as either a "Jewish soul" or a "Gentile soul", but that Jews can be raised from the dead as Gentiles and vice versa.

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The rabbis told me and there are ancient text from the 13th century that a person who is drawn to jewish conversion doesn't actually convert from non-jewish to jewish soul, but was a jewish soul all along. They are just reassuming their jewish soul when converting. There maybe a genetic lineage that is long forgotten. Many jews converted 100's of years ago due to persecution.
There is also an ancient rabbinic theory that sometimes a jew is being born non jewish after having diverted from his/her purpose in a previous life in order to find his/her way back to his true soul.
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is reincarnation a time trap to keep you in this universe? can you move on to nirvana from here, or are we all doomed to reincarnate eternally?
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The goal is self-realization and liberation called moksha from Samsara, the continuous cycle of life and death and ultimately become one with God.
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This, of course, is where the Doctrine of "resurrection" differs with the doctrine of 'reincarnation'.

The Revelation of the Memory of Creation is the Revelation of the Memory of having been Created by God. That Memory clearly demonstrates that God is God and man is man and that man can never become God or become "one with God".

Neither is there any "escape" from the continuous cycle of life and death. Rather, the physical reality itself is redeemed when people become aware, on a mass scale, of the reality of previous lives and that wicked actions are punished in one life or another.

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Watch, time is really getting short. False alarms are over, This is the real thing. Check the math for yourself
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When I visited Germany, I had weird feelings around central nazi propaganda places in Munich as if I could feel the residue energy from the past. I'm also drawn to everything jewish and don't know if my family converted sometime in the past, but I've been told that I have a jewish soul that incarnated in a non-jewish body in this life.
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Not sure if you are aware of this or not; but there is a theory among some Orthodox Jewish mystics that the "Jewish soul" can only 'incarnate' in a Jewish body; whereas a "Gentile soul", which is really no different than an animal soul, can only incarnate in a Gentile body.

But these people obviously have no Knowledge whatsoever that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; in other words, that there is no such thing as either a "Jewish soul" or a "Gentile soul", but that Jews can be raised from the dead as Gentiles and vice versa.

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The rabbis told me and there are ancient text from the 13th century that a person who is drawn to jewish conversion doesn't actually convert from non-jewish to jewish soul, but was a jewish soul all along. They are just reassuming their jewish soul when converting. There maybe a genetic lineage that is long forgotten. Many jews converted 100's of years ago due to persecution.
There is also an ancient rabbinic theory that sometimes a jew is being born non jewish after having diverted from his/her purpose in a previous life in order to find his/her way back to his true soul.
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But the whole doctrine of a "soul", whether Jewish or Gentile, is pagan metaphysics; something that has NO basis in either the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels or the Quran (Mohammed also teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.)

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When I visited Germany, I had weird feelings around central nazi propaganda places in Munich as if I could feel the residue energy from the past. I'm also drawn to everything jewish and don't know if my family converted sometime in the past, but I've been told that I have a jewish soul that incarnated in a non-jewish body in this life.
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Not sure if you are aware of this or not; but there is a theory among some Orthodox Jewish mystics that the "Jewish soul" can only 'incarnate' in a Jewish body; whereas a "Gentile soul", which is really no different than an animal soul, can only incarnate in a Gentile body.

But these people obviously have no Knowledge whatsoever that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; in other words, that there is no such thing as either a "Jewish soul" or a "Gentile soul", but that Jews can be raised from the dead as Gentiles and vice versa.

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I also question if there actually is such a thing as a jewish soul and a gentile soul. It creates more separation.
My feeling is that there is something far deeper and underlying that connects all of existence regardless of its manifest form.
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is reincarnation a time trap to keep you in this universe? can you move on to nirvana from here, or are we all doomed to reincarnate eternally?
 Quoting: pseudocide_blonde


The goal is self-realization and liberation called moksha from Samsara, the continuous cycle of life and death and ultimately become one with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


This, of course, is where the Doctrine of "resurrection" differs with the doctrine of 'reincarnation'.

The Revelation of the Memory of Creation is the Revelation of the Memory of having been Created by God. That Memory clearly demonstrates that God is God and man is man and that man can never become God or become "one with God".

Neither is there any "escape" from the continuous cycle of life and death. Rather, the physical reality itself is redeemed when people become aware, on a mass scale, of the reality of previous lives and that wicked actions are punished in one life or another.

Michael
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Maybe we were created in the image of God as his children and with the potential to become creators/God's ourselves and to at some point create countless universes. It may be a never ending cosmic play.
If we were man as man and God is God as you say, separated from God, what's the point? Were men created as a spectacle for a bored God?
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I was in a harum in egypt, property of an influentual man. He was abusive and cruel. He is today my husband, still a powerfull man but no longer in control of me as a matter of fact, after many years, he regrets his past transgressions against woman. After many power struggles and much pain, he sees me as his equal. He has no idea about this and I will never tell him. I just know this as surley as I know my name. Many times I have had flash backs, dreams and once right we wed, I had a vision. I no longer dance for him but with him.
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When I visited Germany, I had weird feelings around central nazi propaganda places in Munich as if I could feel the residue energy from the past. I'm also drawn to everything jewish and don't know if my family converted sometime in the past, but I've been told that I have a jewish soul that incarnated in a non-jewish body in this life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


Not sure if you are aware of this or not; but there is a theory among some Orthodox Jewish mystics that the "Jewish soul" can only 'incarnate' in a Jewish body; whereas a "Gentile soul", which is really no different than an animal soul, can only incarnate in a Gentile body.

But these people obviously have no Knowledge whatsoever that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is similar to the Buddhist Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; in other words, that there is no such thing as either a "Jewish soul" or a "Gentile soul", but that Jews can be raised from the dead as Gentiles and vice versa.

Michael
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I also question if there actually is such a thing as a jewish soul and a gentile soul. It creates more separation.
My feeling is that there is something far deeper and underlying that connects all of existence regardless of its manifest form.
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Bingo with regards to the creation of "more separation".

As I explain on my science-of-consciousness website, there is a non-spatial, non-temporal, non-dualistic third dimension of consciousness prior to the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'; the crucial descriptors being non-spatial and non-temporal; meaning unbounded in space and time.

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I was in a harum in egypt, property of an influentual man. He was abusive and cruel. He is today my husband, still a powerfull man but no longer in control of me as a matter of fact, after many years, he regrets his past transgressions against woman. After many power struggles and much pain, he sees me as his equal. He has no idea about this and I will never tell him. I just know this as surley as I know my name. Many times I have had flash backs, dreams and once right we wed, I had a vision. I no longer dance for him but with him.
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I certainly do not want you to answer this question, of course.

But why will you never tell him?

Do you not think that it would be to his advantage to know such a thing?

Would that not be a part of his education as to the structure of reality?

Just sayin'.

I have not always told people of the memories I have had of them from previous lives, either; but, mostly, that was because I was never given the opportunity and it would have offended them.

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If i have another child, i will name her after my grandfather. I respect him. He is a good man. He talks a lot of shit, has a bad temper, but he never laid a finger on my grandma.

He worked had his whole life, he is a dog, chinese zodiac. And he is extremely loyal. He lost his Oldest and youngest sons... Bernecio, and Elisio. One died at 6th grade camp of a strange aspirin reaction?

The other, died at a party. Early twenties.

My grandparents are oldschool. Strong. I will always respect them.
I really love hmy grandfather, everything he tells me is true.

He told me to never disrespect police no matter what, because they have the power and i aint shit. He was right.

He told me i should join the navy, i shouldve... I didnt.

He said id make a good marine, i should join. I didnt...

His name is selpecio.

If i have a girl, i will name her selestia,

A boy, i will name him sage.

I dont plan on having children, i could not afford it right now. I dont want to be called a welfare mooching piece of shit all my life, true or not.

But my grandfather, will pass soon. I dont want him to die, i feel he doesnt deserve it.

I just know/ hope, pray, its not the end.
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The whole subject of past lives has me puzzled.
If the aim of the game is to move on (eventually)to a higher plane of existence: why are past lives not open and clear to us so that we can consciously resolve previous lives issues and make progress in the present moment?
Given the choice I'm sure a good percentage of us would by pass another round of mortal existence on planet earth and move on to some place more enlightened.

I'm told that the Akashic Record holds the answers to these past life questions.Has anyone on GLP read/seen it and how is it accessed?
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Sages claim to have the ability to remember all of their past lives. We may all have the potential to have that ability but we may need to go through a purification process and let go of our current identifications that may blur our insights.
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is reincarnation a time trap to keep you in this universe? can you move on to nirvana from here, or are we all doomed to reincarnate eternally?
 Quoting: pseudocide_blonde


The goal is self-realization and liberation called moksha from Samsara, the continuous cycle of life and death and ultimately become one with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


This, of course, is where the Doctrine of "resurrection" differs with the doctrine of 'reincarnation'.

The Revelation of the Memory of Creation is the Revelation of the Memory of having been Created by God. That Memory clearly demonstrates that God is God and man is man and that man can never become God or become "one with God".

Neither is there any "escape" from the continuous cycle of life and death. Rather, the physical reality itself is redeemed when people become aware, on a mass scale, of the reality of previous lives and that wicked actions are punished in one life or another.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Maybe we were created in the image of God as his children and with the potential to become creators/God's ourselves and to at some point create countless universes. It may be a never ending cosmic play.
If we were man as man and God is God as you say, separated from God, what's the point? Were men created as a spectacle for a bored God?
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As a matter of fact, Jesus answers this particular question in the Gospels when he quotes from the Psalms of David: "Ye are gods."

It is important to understand that man is much more than what he is commonly conceived of as being--much more--but that "much more" does NOT include "being one with God".

Jesus says that "the children of the resurrection are sons of God" in his reply to the Sadducees in the Gospel of Luke. But one of the characteristics of the "sons of God" is having received the Memory of Creation and the memories of previous lives; and, along with those Revelations, the Knowledge that man will always have a consciousness of a "self" and a 'thinker' which CANNOT "become one with God."

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Everyday normal life is nirvana.
The now moment in which you're in, is eternity and liberation.
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The goal is self-realization and liberation called moksha from Samsara, the continuous cycle of life and death and ultimately become one with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


This, of course, is where the Doctrine of "resurrection" differs with the doctrine of 'reincarnation'.

The Revelation of the Memory of Creation is the Revelation of the Memory of having been Created by God. That Memory clearly demonstrates that God is God and man is man and that man can never become God or become "one with God".

Neither is there any "escape" from the continuous cycle of life and death. Rather, the physical reality itself is redeemed when people become aware, on a mass scale, of the reality of previous lives and that wicked actions are punished in one life or another.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Maybe we were created in the image of God as his children and with the potential to become creators/God's ourselves and to at some point create countless universes. It may be a never ending cosmic play.
If we were man as man and God is God as you say, separated from God, what's the point? Were men created as a spectacle for a bored God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


As a matter of fact, Jesus answers this particular question in the Gospels when he quotes from the Psalms of David: "Ye are gods."

It is important to understand that man is much more than what he is commonly conceived of as being--much more--but that "much more" does NOT include "being one with God".

Jesus says that "the children of the resurrection are sons of God" in his reply to the Sadducees in the Gospel of Luke. But one of the characteristics of the "sons of God" is having received the Memory of Creation and the memories of previous lives; and, along with those Revelations, the Knowledge that man will always have a consciousness of a "self" and a 'thinker' which CANNOT "become one with God."

Michael
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Does God not have a consciousness of "self"?
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I sometims wonder if I fell to my death in a previous life, and that such an experience would be the source of my fear of heights / falling to my death in this one.
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The whole subject of past lives has me puzzled.
If the aim of the game is to move on (eventually)to a higher plane of existence: why are past lives not open and clear to us so that we can consciously resolve previous lives issues and make progress in the present moment?
Given the choice I'm sure a good percentage of us would by pass another round of mortal existence on planet earth and move on to some place more enlightened.

I'm told that the Akashic Record holds the answers to these past life questions.Has anyone on GLP read/seen it and how is it accessed?
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Sages claim to have the ability to remember all of their past lives. We may all have the potential to have that ability but we may need to go through a purification process and let go of our current identifications that may blur our insights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


Speaking from personal experience, the revelation of the memories of previous lives is the revelation of numberless lives. The memories occur in such rapid succession that one completely loses count of how many there are. Then there are other lives in which time slows down and the memories of one particular life and then another occur very, very slowly; the specific purpose being to convey information from that particular life that is crucially relevant to your present life and to the people that you know in your present life.

The number of previous lives, and even the specific identities that a person has in his or her previous lives is not particularly important.

What is important is the Knowledge that there is a completely different dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker'; that is, beyond conflict and violence; and that it is only by an experience of that dimension of consciousness that there can be Peace in the world.

Michael
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This, of course, is where the Doctrine of "resurrection" differs with the doctrine of 'reincarnation'.

The Revelation of the Memory of Creation is the Revelation of the Memory of having been Created by God. That Memory clearly demonstrates that God is God and man is man and that man can never become God or become "one with God".

Neither is there any "escape" from the continuous cycle of life and death. Rather, the physical reality itself is redeemed when people become aware, on a mass scale, of the reality of previous lives and that wicked actions are punished in one life or another.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Maybe we were created in the image of God as his children and with the potential to become creators/God's ourselves and to at some point create countless universes. It may be a never ending cosmic play.
If we were man as man and God is God as you say, separated from God, what's the point? Were men created as a spectacle for a bored God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


As a matter of fact, Jesus answers this particular question in the Gospels when he quotes from the Psalms of David: "Ye are gods."

It is important to understand that man is much more than what he is commonly conceived of as being--much more--but that "much more" does NOT include "being one with God".

Jesus says that "the children of the resurrection are sons of God" in his reply to the Sadducees in the Gospel of Luke. But one of the characteristics of the "sons of God" is having received the Memory of Creation and the memories of previous lives; and, along with those Revelations, the Knowledge that man will always have a consciousness of a "self" and a 'thinker' which CANNOT "become one with God."

Michael
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Does God not have a consciousness of "self"?
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What is the origin of the consciousness of the "self"?

The 'movement' of self-reflection; which gives rise to the consciousness of the "self"/"not self".

In other words, any consciousness of a "self" is a dualistic consciousness.

But, according to the Revelations, "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One."--in other words, not dualistic.

In other words, to say that God has a consciousness of a "self" similar to the human "self" would be creating God "in the image of man".

That is, the 'consciousness' of the Creator is far beyond any image or thought that could be concocted by a human consciousness.

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The whole subject of past lives has me puzzled.
If the aim of the game is to move on (eventually)to a higher plane of existence: why are past lives not open and clear to us so that we can consciously resolve previous lives issues and make progress in the present moment?
Given the choice I'm sure a good percentage of us would by pass another round of mortal existence on planet earth and move on to some place more enlightened.

I'm told that the Akashic Record holds the answers to these past life questions.Has anyone on GLP read/seen it and how is it accessed?
 Quoting: reluctant participant


Sages claim to have the ability to remember all of their past lives. We may all have the potential to have that ability but we may need to go through a purification process and let go of our current identifications that may blur our insights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


Speaking from personal experience, the revelation of the memories of previous lives is the revelation of numberless lives. The memories occur in such rapid succession that one completely loses count of how many there are. Then there are other lives in which time slows down and the memories of one particular life and then another occur very, very slowly; the specific purpose being to convey information from that particular life that is crucially relevant to your present life and to the people that you know in your present life.

The number of previous lives, and even the specific identities that a person has in his or her previous lives is not particularly important.

What is important is the Knowledge that there is a completely different dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker'; that is, beyond conflict and violence; and that it is only by an experience of that dimension of consciousness that there can be Peace in the world.

Michael
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Once there is that peace, complete forgiveness and revelation that there is no separation as well as complete understanding of human nature without having to go through further human experience, repeated lives are not needed any more and you may go to another dimension of existence.
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The whole subject of past lives has me puzzled.
If the aim of the game is to move on (eventually)to a higher plane of existence: why are past lives not open and clear to us so that we can consciously resolve previous lives issues and make progress in the present moment?
Given the choice I'm sure a good percentage of us would by pass another round of mortal existence on planet earth and move on to some place more enlightened.

I'm told that the Akashic Record holds the answers to these past life questions.Has anyone on GLP read/seen it and how is it accessed?
 Quoting: reluctant participant


Sages claim to have the ability to remember all of their past lives. We may all have the potential to have that ability but we may need to go through a purification process and let go of our current identifications that may blur our insights.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


Speaking from personal experience, the revelation of the memories of previous lives is the revelation of numberless lives. The memories occur in such rapid succession that one completely loses count of how many there are. Then there are other lives in which time slows down and the memories of one particular life and then another occur very, very slowly; the specific purpose being to convey information from that particular life that is crucially relevant to your present life and to the people that you know in your present life.

The number of previous lives, and even the specific identities that a person has in his or her previous lives is not particularly important.

What is important is the Knowledge that there is a completely different dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker'; that is, beyond conflict and violence; and that it is only by an experience of that dimension of consciousness that there can be Peace in the world.

Michael
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Don't humans have the potential to go beyond Dualism. Have you heard of the Ashtavakra Gita?
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Maybe we were created in the image of God as his children and with the potential to become creators/God's ourselves and to at some point create countless universes. It may be a never ending cosmic play.
If we were man as man and God is God as you say, separated from God, what's the point? Were men created as a spectacle for a bored God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31759711


As a matter of fact, Jesus answers this particular question in the Gospels when he quotes from the Psalms of David: "Ye are gods."

It is important to understand that man is much more than what he is commonly conceived of as being--much more--but that "much more" does NOT include "being one with God".

Jesus says that "the children of the resurrection are sons of God" in his reply to the Sadducees in the Gospel of Luke. But one of the characteristics of the "sons of God" is having received the Memory of Creation and the memories of previous lives; and, along with those Revelations, the Knowledge that man will always have a consciousness of a "self" and a 'thinker' which CANNOT "become one with God."

Michael
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Does God not have a consciousness of "self"?
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What is the origin of the consciousness of the "self"?

The 'movement' of self-reflection; which gives rise to the consciousness of the "self"/"not self".

In other words, any consciousness of a "self" is a dualistic consciousness.

But, according to the Revelations, "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One."--in other words, not dualistic.

In other words, to say that God has a consciousness of a "self" similar to the human "self" would be creating God "in the image of man".

That is, the 'consciousness' of the Creator is far beyond any image or thought that could be concocted by a human consciousness.

Michael
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Saying god is one is still dualistic because one number gives rise to others. Beyond this and beyond me saying it's beyond. In other words, no words.

I find it interesting how in the west people view "god" as a creator and the world as created. People of the east might see it as an organism or as a drama. An organism grows from the inside out all together ever where at once. A drama might not be so serious as we take life to be ;)
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The whole subject of past lives has me puzzled.
If the aim of the game is to move on (eventually)to a higher plane of existence: why are past lives not open and clear to us so that we can consciously resolve previous lives issues and make progress in the present moment?
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I've thought about this and what I've surmised is that having advanced knowledge of how the process works would corrupt/taint the learning & development process. Almost like having the answers to a test before you take it. In my opinion for true growth/development to transpire, it must take place in the absence of awareness or knowledge of reward/punishment. If you had foreknowlede of the end goal, you would try to conform and manipulate your behavior in accordance with achieving the perceived 'reward' for doing so. It is necessary to be (at some point) fully immersed in this physical world to facilitate the learning process. If you knew in advance you were eternal spirit/consciousness from the onset, and that you just had to do X,Y, and Z to stop this experience or to stop reincarnating here, you would act in accordance with that ambition and lose sight of the true learning experiences/opportunities that this physical plane extends to us. Just my 2 cents.

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The whole subject of past lives has me puzzled.
If the aim of the game is to move on (eventually)to a higher plane of existence: why are past lives not open and clear to us so that we can consciously resolve previous lives issues and make progress in the present moment?
Given the choice I'm sure a good percentage of us would by pass another round of mortal existence on planet earth and move on to some place more enlightened.

I'm told that the Akashic Record holds the answers to these past life questions.Has anyone on GLP read/seen it and how is it accessed?
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Sages claim to have the ability to remember all of their past lives. We may all have the potential to have that ability but we may need to go through a purification process and let go of our current identifications that may blur our insights.
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Speaking from personal experience, the revelation of the memories of previous lives is the revelation of numberless lives. The memories occur in such rapid succession that one completely loses count of how many there are. Then there are other lives in which time slows down and the memories of one particular life and then another occur very, very slowly; the specific purpose being to convey information from that particular life that is crucially relevant to your present life and to the people that you know in your present life.

The number of previous lives, and even the specific identities that a person has in his or her previous lives is not particularly important.

What is important is the Knowledge that there is a completely different dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker'; that is, beyond conflict and violence; and that it is only by an experience of that dimension of consciousness that there can be Peace in the world.

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Don't humans have the potential to go beyond Dualism. Have you heard of the Ashtavakra Gita?
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Of course. Of course.

Many of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti originate beyond duality, as well.

And as I explain on my website, the third dimension of human consciousness is non-dual, non-spatial and non-temporal.

But we live in a 3-dimensional 'curved' space reality.

In order to drive a car, you must have a consciousness of a "self". In order to love, you must have a "self"; that "self" is dualistic.

In order to balance your check book and arrive at scientific truth, you must have a consciousness of a 'thinker'; and that 'thinker' is dualistic.

I am saying that you cannot remain in a non-dualistic state of consciousness.

Rather, there is a continual movement between dimensions of consciousness. For example, it is the consciousness of the "self" that is typing these words, and it is your consciousness of a "self" which is reading these words, while the words themselves are from the non-dualistic dimension of consciousness.

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Saying god is one is still dualistic because one number gives rise to others.
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Except that is not the meaning of the word "One" in the Revelation. It is not a number. It has another meaning which is beyond words.

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Sages claim to have the ability to remember all of their past lives. We may all have the potential to have that ability but we may need to go through a purification process and let go of our current identifications that may blur our insights.
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Speaking from personal experience, the revelation of the memories of previous lives is the revelation of numberless lives. The memories occur in such rapid succession that one completely loses count of how many there are. Then there are other lives in which time slows down and the memories of one particular life and then another occur very, very slowly; the specific purpose being to convey information from that particular life that is crucially relevant to your present life and to the people that you know in your present life.

The number of previous lives, and even the specific identities that a person has in his or her previous lives is not particularly important.

What is important is the Knowledge that there is a completely different dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker'; that is, beyond conflict and violence; and that it is only by an experience of that dimension of consciousness that there can be Peace in the world.

Michael
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Don't humans have the potential to go beyond Dualism. Have you heard of the Ashtavakra Gita?
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Of course. Of course.

Many of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti originate beyond duality, as well.

And as I explain on my website, the third dimension of human consciousness is non-dual, non-spatial and non-temporal.

But we live in a 3-dimensional 'curved' space reality.

In order to drive a car, you must have a consciousness of a "self". In order to love, you must have a "self"; that "self" is dualistic.

In order to balance your check book and arrive at scientific truth, you must have a consciousness of a 'thinker'; and that 'thinker' is dualistic.

I am saying that you cannot remain in a non-dualistic state of consciousness.

Rather, there is a continual movement between dimensions of consciousness. For example, it is the consciousness of the "self" that is typing these words, and it is your consciousness of a "self" which is reading these words, while the words themselves are from the non-dualistic dimension of consciousness.

Michael
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So is it possible for humans to exist in a non-dualistic realm? Don't the say that we came from non-dual, become many and are trying to become one (non dual) again with the added benefit of dualistic experience?
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I had pets come back, my long time pet literally jumped bodies apon his death, his soul was in two bodies the last 3 weeks of his life, when he died it was clear to me his spirit was pulled out of his body, keeping some of the story off the board, by the next day he was back in my home as a baby girl, I knew it was him, (I'm leaving a lot out about why and how I knew and the details) He/She became my greatest gift as my baby girl, because she knew me, we were already bonded, she was back stronger, more obnoxious, my best friend. I had four years with her. Her life was taken by someone pretty much on purpose. She was everything to me. She isn't replaceable.
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Maybe he/she will come back to you again.
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I just thought the cycle would continue over and over, that she would grow old, come back "new and improved" and just be there for the remainder of my life. A while after she died I got a sense that maybe what I thought was "residual memory" of her might actually be here there, not moving on. I chose to not process it for a bit because it was too painful, then revisit it later, actually all this last week. Seems she is "here waiting" "you never left me" (part of the story I left off the posts) I will wait for you". I don't think shes moving on, and I'm sensing that this is uncomfortable to do so, but she is choosing to stay because I never left her ever, even as she was dying for months. From the first second she entered my life we were deeply connected. Make no logical sense, but I knew who she was at the time so made perfect sense.
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It's interesting how pets and their owner sometimes find each other. It's like an instant knowing.

When I was a kid, I had lucid dreams at night that a fox like animal kept coming to my bedside. I could see and hear it sniffing, too. Years later I had an urge to get a cat. I went to a shelter and there was an orange cat that stretched out her paw and made sounds as soon as I walked by the cage she was in. It was instant love at first sight. i took her home. She looks just like a bushy fox, especially her tail and awesome in every way. Maybe she was my pet fox in a previous life.
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When I first got her in her previous life when "she" was a him, he was my first adult pet, never had one before, wasn't planning to get one that day, went to a store for something I needed that I never got that day, instead I ended up at a pet store, HE picked me, he was responding to me and no one else, standing on his hind legs reaching to me. I walked around the store looked at all the other animals including fish, came back 20 minutes later, he did the same thing lol, and if I walked one way, he followed me, if i walked the other way, he followed me, then got on hind legs again. I have often wondered if he/she was one of my childhood pets
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Maybe he/she will come back to you again.
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I just thought the cycle would continue over and over, that she would grow old, come back "new and improved" and just be there for the remainder of my life. A while after she died I got a sense that maybe what I thought was "residual memory" of her might actually be here there, not moving on. I chose to not process it for a bit because it was too painful, then revisit it later, actually all this last week. Seems she is "here waiting" "you never left me" (part of the story I left off the posts) I will wait for you". I don't think shes moving on, and I'm sensing that this is uncomfortable to do so, but she is choosing to stay because I never left her ever, even as she was dying for months. From the first second she entered my life we were deeply connected. Make no logical sense, but I knew who she was at the time so made perfect sense.
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It's interesting how pets and their owner sometimes find each other. It's like an instant knowing.

When I was a kid, I had lucid dreams at night that a fox like animal kept coming to my bedside. I could see and hear it sniffing, too. Years later I had an urge to get a cat. I went to a shelter and there was an orange cat that stretched out her paw and made sounds as soon as I walked by the cage she was in. It was instant love at first sight. i took her home. She looks just like a bushy fox, especially her tail and awesome in every way. Maybe she was my pet fox in a previous life.
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When I first got her in her previous life when "she" was a him, he was my first adult pet, never had one before, wasn't planning to get one that day, went to a store for something I needed that I never got that day, instead I ended up at a pet store, HE picked me, he was responding to me and no one else, standing on his hind legs reaching to me. I walked around the store looked at all the other animals including fish, came back 20 minutes later, he did the same thing lol, and if I walked one way, he followed me, if i walked the other way, he followed me, then got on hind legs again. I have often wondered if he/she was one of my childhood pets
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or your animal spirit guide?
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So is it possible for humans to exist in a non-dualistic realm? Don't the say that we came from non-dual, become many and are trying to become one (non dual) again with the added benefit of dualistic experience?
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"...humans to exist in..."

All of these words suggest a 3-dimensional 'curved' space, when that is not what we are dealing with.

The non-spatial consciousness does not have any thing existing in it because it is non-spatial.

In other words, the non-spatial existence is the Knowledge of the non-spatial existence itself; which, of course, makes no sense to the consciousness of the 'thinker', which is based upon the assumption of duality.

'The Fall' cannot be reversed.

There was a 'fall' into duality.

Most people are stuck in that duality with no Knowledge whatsoever of non-duality.

But, even when you receive the Knowledge of the non-duality, the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' still exist in duality. That cannot be changed.

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So is it possible for humans to exist in a non-dualistic realm? Don't the say that we came from non-dual, become many and are trying to become one (non dual) again with the added benefit of dualistic experience?
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"...humans to exist in..."

All of these words suggest a 3-dimensional 'curved' space, when that is not what we are dealing with.

The non-spatial consciousness does not have any thing existing in it because it is non-spatial.

In other words, the non-spatial existence is the Knowledge of the non-spatial existence itself; which, of course, makes no sense to the consciousness of the 'thinker', which is based upon the assumption of duality.

'The Fall' cannot be reversed.

There was a 'fall' into duality.

Most people are stuck in that duality with no Knowledge whatsoever of non-duality.

But, even when you receive the Knowledge of the non-duality, the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' still exist in duality. That cannot be changed.

Michael

Does that mean we're doomed? Forever stuck in duality space/consciousness?
that doesn't resonate with me. We may have fallen, but there is a way out.

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On another note, this may be entertaining.

Celebrity Past Lives
Australian Clairvoyant Jeanette Kumara has written a book concerning the past lives of the stars.

David and Victoria Beckham

Some time in the 1600s, they shared a life in Italy David was intellectually handicapped, and Victoria was his older sister, who had to care for him after their parents died.
As David grew older, Victoria yeanred for a life of her own. He made this impossible because he needed constant care and acted like a spoilt child if he didn't get his own way.
Eventually, Victoria decided David should be sent to an asylum. He protested and became violent, but Posh stood her ground and David was taken by force. Victoria then married and had the children she wanted so dearly.
This time around, Victoria should take care because David is still seeking revenge.


Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie

Brad and Angelina grew up in poverty and hunger in Africa in the early 1800s.
They would often sit together outside their shanties, dreaming about having plenty of food to share with their families. They were betrothed to each other and very much in love.
Sadly, Angelina died from starvation at a young age, and Brad was overcome with grief. He stopped eating his meagre meals and also died of starvation about a year later.
Having known extreme deprivation, these two will do a lot of good for the world's children. There will be a few bumps along the way, but nothing they can't handle.


Russell Crowe

Russell had a very violent life as an English convict. He was transported to Van Diemen's land (now Tasmania) in the early 1800s for living off the earnings of prostitutes.
He was sent to Port Arthur, where he was often flogged for his bad temper and rough ways. The more brutal the guards were to him, the more brutal he became. He killed a guard trying to escape, was taken to Hobart and hanged.
Russell is carrying a lot of baggage from his past, but now has more control over his temper. Because of the trauma from his convict life, he should watch out for his back.


Liz Hurley

In the early 1800s, Liz was a hillbilly growing up in the backwoods of Kentucky, where her mother taught her about the healing properties of roots and herbs. Liz married a second cousin and had several children, but continued working as a healer. The mountain people came to her because they distrusted conventional doctors.
When her youngest son got a bad infection, Liz invented a new cure. She took a sharp nail and pierced different parts of his body to relieve the illness. The child recovered, and soon people were lining up for cures to all manner of aches and pains.
Inevitably, some patients died of serious infections, but Liz could always find some other cause.


Courteney Cox and David Arquette

These two were Mormons living in Salt Lake City in the US in the late 1800s. They had one child, and all went well for several years until David decided to take a second wife, as allowed by their religion.
Courteney was furious, but there was nothing she could do to prevent the other woman from moving in. The wives didn't get on, and there were many jealous arguments between them.
David realised his mistake and left his wives to battle it out while he had a good time with as many women as he could. Courteney now has a beautiful butterfly spirit while David has a scorpion.
The second Mormon wife was Erika Keith, the stripper who had a 'sex romp' with David several years before he met Courteney.


Prince William

He has been close to the throne once before - as the illegitimate son of Henry VIII and his young mistress. Henry wanted William to be his heir but there was strong opposition.
William was in a serious predicament and spent some time in France. Hurt and dismayed, he vowed that one day he would get his revencge. He desperately wanted to be king, but he died of consumption at an early age.
In his life, William will achieve his ambition of becomign king, and either of two young ladies around him now would make good partners. His owl spirit will help him choose carefully.
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So is it possible for humans to exist in a non-dualistic realm? Don't the say that we came from non-dual, become many and are trying to become one (non dual) again with the added benefit of dualistic experience?
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"...humans to exist in..."

All of these words suggest a 3-dimensional 'curved' space, when that is not what we are dealing with.

The non-spatial consciousness does not have any thing existing in it because it is non-spatial.

In other words, the non-spatial existence is the Knowledge of the non-spatial existence itself; which, of course, makes no sense to the consciousness of the 'thinker', which is based upon the assumption of duality.

'The Fall' cannot be reversed.

There was a 'fall' into duality.

Most people are stuck in that duality with no Knowledge whatsoever of non-duality.

But, even when you receive the Knowledge of the non-duality, the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' still exist in duality. That cannot be changed.

Michael

Does that mean we're doomed? Forever stuck in duality space/consciousness?
that doesn't resonate with me. We may have fallen, but there is a way out.

gasp
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The Knowledge of non-duality is the way "out".

We do not "go" anywhere.

We learn to live in this existence without conflict and violence.

This is the goal of Buddhism, as I understand it.

And, clearly, this is the ultimate goal of the monotheistic Revelations and Prophecies; although the monotheistic religious 'authorities' are doing everything they can to PREVENT this.

Michael





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