The GLP Family - Love of Freedom is Our Common Thread

Thanks, J&V. You always have the best threads.

I agree that each thread is a "house" but as a longtime member, I'm really selective about how I post. I "own" my posts. I "own" my reputation.

That's why I suggested that ACs go ahead and sign up. When you have an "account", you are "accountable" and thus not so apt to troll or hit&run.

LOVE your threads. I always try to give you Karma for your threads but you post good ones so often that I can't give it to you for each one!

It's cool, man! Posting drunk is the way to go!

That's how I got all my red karma haha! (you got a greenie from me tho.) 40 minutes to millertime™!

Oh shit!!! I might get some red tonight!!!

But here's some green from moi!

Thx you!

I know. I need to slow down. I have a news addiction and a glp addiction ! Bad mix!

No!!! It's a good mix! That's why your threads get pinned so frequently. You do a great job!

Love to you as well! I'm a HUGE Metroid fanboy, BTW! My faves are Super Metroid and Prime 1&2. I fucking LOVE Metroid Prime 2 Echoes!!! Gamecube is WAY underrated.

Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 02/11/2013 12:45 AM

OP, Sorry to hear about your employee's problems, and if you need someone who is accustomed to telecommuting then I am available, as I have no job and sero prospect of getting one.

If it is internet based then I could help you out, so let me know cause distance aint a problem.

I'm shit a physical work, and have zero gardening experience, in case you were thinking.

Wonderful OP, thank you. We are beings of light, we are Free Will. regardless, we are free to express and share. No boundaries or Limits. Luv GLP, it is one of the greatest places to invest time on the internet.

Thanks for the offer. But my guy is a salesman. I have a jewelry store. He is paid per diem and. commission per sale. I had to raise his per diem today (and now have to contract to pay him in cash every day) but I kept him on. It's worth it and he's in a tight spot. My brother will work when he can't. Of course, I'll cover for him too.

Yeah--I appreciate your willingness to jump right in but unless you live in or around Fairmont, WV then it won't work out.

THANKS THOUGH!!!

what do you mean they will come around to "true freedom"?

freedom is not just one directional or two directional it is all directional. true freedom is that they are being doing saying what they like. your freedom is to disagree with them and if you have the power to, to censor them or silence them or threaten them with laws. That is your freedom to do. but to say that true freedom is that which is for instance "not racist".. what is you argument for that? Why is true freedom, as opposed to.. what? false freedom? that which is not racist?

freedom, at its base, is silent on what is truly or falsly itself because by obvious self evidence, all that exists has freely become so.

Freedom for ALL. Freedom to be a racist/homophobe. And yet obligation to respect THEIR freedom.

Think what you like but you're obliged to respect to freedom and rights of others.

CONSISTENCY.

but what you have assumed is that racists are not ALREADY CONSISTENT. you have assumed that they are not holding that which is true freedom.
my dear, what I am arguing is that they already do. Freedom is a state of mind in the observer in that we observe that freedom is already there.
you think that just because someone is racist they are not being "true freedom"?
please give me your exact argument for this?
and remember there is a difference between BEING and GIVING. And as for giving... freedom cannot be given, it is a state of mind.

You are free to do as we subconsciously tell you while you think you are making a choice.

So I had a thought that seemed quasi-original (oh shit, run!)...

I'm sitting here and there pondering more on this topic whose point I struck and had an itch for which I've no human to stroke.

I'm a first-time paid member and I respect those who call BS on a suggestion that one ought to try it out and make friends and all the other well-thought out fuzzies OP shed. For me, it seems odd to find common ground, correlating gifts, chums (&) girlfriends with no face, numbered fake, 'nonymous faith.


I can't obsessively track and remember ACs
but given the time I just might.
I have a fam'ly.
Not All do.
Oh Shit.
Shit.
Shit.


Everyone else here is just an expression of a life I could have had if I had lived under their circumstances.

Think that's another way to strike OP's point home :3

the common threads are a bit of paranoia, a little insanity, lots of imagination, doomtardary and quirky humour.

Not Luv of freedom but hatred of slavery - Freedom is(should be)inherent and not a question.

A racist can be "truly free". A homophobe can be the same.

But public and private are two different things.

For example, I am a business owner. I am free to hire who I wish.

Though it's completely hypothetical, let's say:

I like whites and want to employ them exclusively.

I hire whites.

However, I certainly can't argue that other businesses might want to hire blacks. That's their right. FREEDOM.

Say I like gays (and I do). But say I like them exclusively (I don't but for the sake of argument), I only hire gays. That's my right.

But I can't be offended that others might hire only straights. FREEDOM.

Freedom (in the Libertarian tradition) is liberty to do what one wishes so long as it:

1. does not breach the consent of another person(s).

2. does not breach a contract (meeting of sound minds).

Which is why I choose McDonalds! And Walmart! And a slow miserable death!

RIGHTS are inherent. Freedom to exercise rights is something different.

as of absolute freedom - one is under NO obligation to respect the freedom and "rights" of others. Absolute freedom means you have your OWN rules which may or may not be the same as other's, without.

To say that one can be free as long as they are not free to rule themselves as they see fit is YOU being inconsistent OP.


If one has absolute freedom, that does not insinuate that everyone can ACTUALISE everything they wish to do, because free will means that someone can come along and force you to choose otherwise by violence, threat or other means.

This is an expression of free will. What you must be aware of here is the finer point that if you choose to enforce YOUR rules of right and wrong behaviour onto racists, homophobes or whoever, then it is YOU claiming to take the freedoms away from people to be and do as they wish.... not specifically them [claiming to be taking the freedoms away from people].

You're right, deaf kitty. But different users here have different needs. The ACs have a primal need to be heard. They need to "sound off". Sometimes for attention. Other times to add valuable information.

But they don't OWN what they post. They are literally Anonymous Cowards.

And that's fine. GLP gives them that option. It makes for interesting threads.

BUT it also makes for trolling extravaganzas.

But, HEY--it gives us members Karma for reporting their stupid asses.

FREEDOM is doing anything you wish so long as:

1. It does not breach the consent of another (and hence THEIR freedom)

or

2. It does not breach a contract made of sound mind.

These are the bases of criminal (1) and civil (2) law.

"The GLP Family - Love of Freedom"

And then get ISP banned for having an opinion that is not extreme righwing.

Says the poster opening threads left and right and you do realize having a registered name a with an avatar is considered to be attention whoring pur sang right?

Oh, the irony.

I've been there.

dude, this may be because you have been drinking that you are not being aware of what you have said.. you said that racists and homophobes were not being TRULY FREE and that eventually they would come around to being so. By this you insinuate that true freedom does not encompass being racist. yet in the above post you claim that it does... yet in the bottom part you again say that it doesn't. OP you are being inconsistent. either being racist and homophobic is being true freedom or it isn't.

if it isn't, because you claim the traditional libertarian tradition says that to be so is OUTLAWED, then it is YOU who are claiming to take the rights of people away from them. specifically the freedom to breach the consent of another person and to breach a contract. you have the freedom to enforce these rules by claiming your rights and wrongs overule the freedom of another person.

To do so is to understand that you are upholding a type of civil freedom at the expense of the absolute freedom of others. Even though truly you cannot take that away - people can ALWAYS do as they wish, regardless of the rules.

So, if you claim that homophobes and racists are not upholding "true freedom" because they try to stop others from being free you must see the parallel OP to yourself claiming to stop homophobes and racists from being however the fuck they like, and therefore YOU are not upholding true or absolute freedom by your definitions either. do you see this? you are being inconsistent in this.

Really? My last thread was days ago.

And really, having an account and an avatar only means that you are invested in the site. So sue me. I love GLP.

If you don't then YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

PISS OFF.