How Do Federal Reserve Notes Go from Printing Press into Circulation?

The Mondragon Cooperative provided an excellent example of how groups of people can own and control their own medium of exchange. It is also the best example of Binary Economics and "Third Way" economics... and there is a 60 year track record.

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And read the material here:

Thread: I want to make something very clear. Money and economy is made up, it does not exist. It's just a game. (Page 2)

Someone else asked, and received answers:
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The question goes beyond "Who will put the bell on the Cat?"

The next level question is "Who will take the lead?"

Point men volunteers?

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My personal in-depth study of the monetary system lead me to the conclusion that there has never in the past 5000 years been a stable money system.

Enter my first encounter with the Gesellian model about 1985 with a small brochure from an Ohio group. And a several years long correspondence with the group. And purchase of the Dahlberg book. Dahlberg was head engineer on the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority).

Then, the writings of Bernard Lietaer... and now this:
MONEY AND SUSTAINABILITY
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Silvio Gesell inspired solutions dwarf all previous efforts.

Mises was the "monetary crank" (that is how Mises characterized Gesell in his book HUMAN ACTION); Gesell saw the problem.

This video is rather miss-titled: The given title is: Full Show 2/15/12: Bankster's Beware. Elizabeth Warren's in the Senate, but really it is a 30 minute interview of Jacqui Dunne and Bernard Lietaer discussing the nature of money and how to improve the system. After about 35 minutes it goes to other bank crime related matters.

The video was made just after the Russian meteor event.

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(58 minutes with commercials )

The book Jacqui Dunne and Bernard Lietaer co-authored is found at Scribd:

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Information for purchasing the printed version is found on page seven.

A topic related to the fed note topic and revealing a degree of concealment and quasi-criminality from bureaucrats is the CAFR subject.

CAFR = Comprehensive Annual Financial Report

Searching this site (CAFR) will discover a number of threads on the topic, but few if any went past 2 pages.

Point is, trying to find honest bureaucrats to correct the present problems and take pro-active actions toward a more honest system that is to the benefit of the people is nigh impossible.

A collapse must happen and the debt has to be reset. It's truly the only way out.

The Federal Reserve System Is A Massive Wealth Redistribution Scheme

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Brief extract: "So how is the U.S. government ever supposed to pay back all that debt if the amount of new debt being created is always larger than the amount of new money that is being created?

Well, the theory is that the money will be able circulate through the U.S. economy really fast and that the federal government will be able to tax it enough times and at a high enough rate to be able to pay off the debt plus the interest.

But that never seems to work out, does it?

Instead, the federal government always finds that it can’t fund government activities and pay off the debt at the same time, so they always come back to borrow more. That is why it is called a debt spiral.

So the debt just keeps getting larger and larger. Today, the U.S. national debt is more than 5000 times larger than it was when the Federal Reserve was first created.

And as the debt keeps getting larger and larger, so does the money supply. And that is why we have such a problem with inflation. Since the Federal Reserve was first created, the U.S. dollar has lost more than 96 percent of its value.

But the global elite are not just doing this in the United States. They have established similar systems in almost every nation on earth.

So every year, gigantic mountains of money are transferred from taxpayers all over the globe into their pockets."

Youtube is owned by Google, so you can search with Google or from any You Tube video (search bar is at the top)...

Do a search for "Empire of Debt" and get all kinds of great hits.

That line is the title of a book by Bill Bonner, but the hits will include any number of commentaries and even to the Bill Still videos.

Money as Debt, by Paul Grignon; secondary title The Rothschild Mafia

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Video #2: [link to www.youtube.com] (77 minutes)

Video #3: [link to www.youtube.com] (62 minutes)

Paul Grignon is from west Canada (Vancouver or Vancouver Island)

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Money = Debt = Slavery - a video in two parts:

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Modern Money Mechanics is mentioned in part one.

Part two: [link to www.youtube.com] (8:22)
Has some history about the passage of the federal reserve act and how fractional reserves work.

Are all wars begun on behalf of banking interests?

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The United States currency, (dollars), is printed privately by the Crane Paper Company. There is a giant factory in Mass. They also print for, (number from a number of years ago), 27 other countries. Printing currency is very technical and most want the best to do it. Crane ships to the banks. Those pictures of the presses are not the Fed. There are Crane. Sorry, having senior moment on name of the town.

wow really in Massachusetts? I have lots of family there

do you know where specifically this factory is located? is it out west or more towards Boston?

Dalton Massachusetts, but so far what I have discovered seems to indicate Crane is the supplier of the unique paper and the Bureau of Treasury and Printing still runs the actual presses. (I have some senior moments too)

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Far west end of the state:
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A little more on Crane & Co.
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The next war should be the people vs the bankers, but unfortunately too many dummies never get the message.

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Can't beat the bankers before you take out the walls of morons.

yeah seriously could it be more out away from civilization?

nobody lives in western MA. well people do, but it's way colder and the weather is much harsher than living closer to the shoreline.

well hey give this thread a bump cause it has a lot of great contributions

Some info on Lincoln's greenback currency:

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Is it truly their money?

Thread: It IS their money (money energy)! You have agreed to play in THEIR GAME! (Page 4)

Or, is it our money?

Eight pages; fully congruent with the topic of this thread:

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I'd like to bump this with a further question on the Federal Reserve Bank.

a few people have argued that the Fed is required to pay back all their interest to the US Treasury Dept. I have never seen any proof for this but I would like to know if this is true. Since the Fed is a private company I don't see why it would pay out interest payments to the government.

and if the fed does pay back a large portion of the interest, are they not still gaming the economy?

purposefully flooding the gold market with short sales? buying up mortgages by just printing up the money? I don't see how them giving the interest payments back to the treasury would justify the system.

I'm just gonna bump this thread with an answer to my previous question.. 'does the Federal Reserve pay back most interest to the government?'

yes they do. But this is still a rigged game because the only people making out well are 1) The Fed Shareholders, and 2) The Federal Government.

Regular people do not see a dime of this money at all. The Feds piss away our money on MRPs, DHS ammo, TSA gropers, and of course the wars overseas. The Federal Reserve Bank is like a personal bank account for the Federal Gov't along with the people who own enough shares to have a say in their policies. The interest payments are a means to make it all seem legit, when it is not legit at all. It may not be illegal but it damn well should be.

Nobody should be printing a country's money and earning a profit. The money should be printed as a commodity for the people and NOT as a means for corporate powers to earn some kickbacks on the sidelines. It's all so pathetic and I hope the system comes crashing down sooner than later.

.pdf page#21 Last paragraph: "Member banks receive a 6 percent dividend annually on their stock"

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6% of what 100 billion? 100 trillion? But at any rate it's 6% tax free on the profits? Plus they get to "loan" all that and collect even more?

Complete scam!

There is one escape valve that possibly exists. Coin. Article 1 section 8 clause 5 "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"

Only congress can create coin. It is my thinking that using coin based accounts keeps you in the above common law jurisdiction (Constitution). When you use the poisoned federal reserve credit THAT is the voluntary activity that you participated in and hence are liable for taxes on it.

The problem is getting those in government to recognize that. Coinage was mandated by us, and should be what we are using for our medium of exchange. Who cares what it is made of. Gold/Silver/Wood/Dogshit it does not matter.

Last Edited by Deplorable Jknoph on 05/11/2013 01:28 AM

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nice contribution thanks for your follow-up.

glad we are able to earth this beast called the Federal Reserve System and get some truth out there. I hate feeling like a slave in bondage to this currency, it is wrong and must be fixed if not by our politicians then by ourselves.

It is irrelevant who actually prints them. Basically bills are created out of thin air from somewhere which are then lent to the US from the private international bank called the Fed which must be paid back with interest, is how I always heard it was done. And this is a really good system because if you ever want to commit suicide all you have to do is ask the question "Why doesn't the United States just print its own money and not have to pay anything back", and you will be dead bwahahahaha!!

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