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CHRIST'S Descent into Sheol rips the Veil Opens the Seals, Portal

 
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CHRIST'S Descent into Sheol rips the Veil Opens the Seals, Portal
Man's Fall from Heaven, The VEIL.
EGYPT, Pharaohs and the after life
CHRIST'S Descent into Sheol to Free Souls
CHRIST rips the Veils..Opens the Seals, Portal
This is a very old belief, its just not taught in the modern church... [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Since heaven was far removed from Shoel (underworld) the only way through it was through the flesh. In spirit Christ was the son of God who volunteered to come in the flesh ..Die in the flesh and descend into the underworld to rip the veil (star gate, portal, seal) and set the captives free.
The premise is All man went to Shoel because of Sin, the only way to open the seal, gate, portal to the underworld was to be sinless, Christ came in the flesh, died in the flesh to go to the underworld to open the seals to free mankind from going to the underworld, and now the kingdom of heaven is open to all men. God freed the Israelites from Egypt because they were trying to escape Sheol on their own.

Explains it all in 9 minutes

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103 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOUL AND SHEOL

[link to www.tithing-russkelly.com]
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Search Wikipedia "Harrowing of Hell"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I prayed to God for along time asking him WHY his son had to die for us and why he was sinless. I told him I thought it was cruel and it made NO SENSE. I asked him to show me what was the connection to the Israelite's and Egypt and why he freed them.

Then one day back in November this all came to me at once and played out like a movie. I tried to convey it the best way I could
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Bookmarking for later. Too tired to read.

thanks op
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hf
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I made the video back in December
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A Star or a Bump would be nice
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This is where Christ went for 3 days
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Wish whoever gave me that 1 star would explain themselve
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Great video sir
I'm a simple man
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Great video sir
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Thanks so much...and that would be a Mrs
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Where in scripture does it say Christ descended into hell (sheol) for three days?

The only reference that is truly debateable.. (in my mind) is the following..

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.

3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;

15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Also perhaps Ephesians 4, but not so..

your thoughts?
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1 peter 3
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I just gave you a link with all the scriptures about Sheol..yet you completely ignore it
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103 Places in the bible where Sheol is described.
Maybe you should try reading the WHOLE BIBLE

103 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOUL AND SHEOL
[link to www.tithing-russkelly.com]
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The Harrowing of Hell (Latin Descensus Christi ad Inferos "the descent of Christ into hell") is the Old English and Middle English term for the triumphant descent of Christ into hell (or Hades) between the time of his Crucifixion and his Resurrection when he brought salvation to all of the just—but not the damned—who had died since the beginning of the world.[1] After His death, the soul of Jesus, still united to the divinity, descended into the realm of the dead, which the Apostles' Creed calls "hell" in the old English usage. It is more technically called Sheol in referring to the realm of the dead. It does not mean at all the hell of the damned.[2]

This nearly-extinct term in Christian theology is referenced in the Apostles' Creed and the Athanasian Creed (Quicumque vult) which state that Jesus Christ "descended into Hell". However, there are no explicit New Testament references to Christ having descended to the underworld. Its absence in Scripture has given rise to controversy and differing interpretations. It is unclear how it became part of the Apostles' Creed.[3]

According to The Catholic Encyclopedia, the story first appears in the apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus, also known as the Acts of Pilate, written by a Roman praetorian named Ananias in probably 425 AD. The descent into hell had been related in the Old English poems connected with the name of Caedmon and Cynewulf. It is subsequently repeated in Aelfric's homilies c. 1000 AD—which is the first known inclusion of the world "harrowing". Middle English dramatic literature contains the fullest and most dramatic development of the subject.[1]

As an image in Christian art, the harrowing is also known as the Anastasis (a Greek word for "resurrection"), considered a creation of Byzantine culture and first appearing in the West in the early 8th century.[4] [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Early Christian teaching

The Harrowing of Hell was taught by theologians of the early church: St Melito of Sardis (died c 180) Homily on the Passion; Tertullian (A Treatise on the Soul, 55), Hippolytus (Treatise on Christ and Anti-Christ) Origen (Against Celsus, 2:43), and, later, St Ambrose (died 397) all wrote of the Harrowing of Hell.

The Gospel of Matthew relates that immediately after Christ died, the earth shook, there was a Crucifixion darkness and eclipse, the veil in the Temple was torn in two, and many people rose from the dead and walked about in Jerusalem and were seen by many people there. According to the apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus, the Harrowing of Hell was foreshadowed by Christ's raising of Lazarus from the dead prior to his own crucifixion. The hymns proper to the weekend suggest that John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus in Hell by prophesying to those held there that Christ would soon release them, just as he prepared the way for Jesus on Earth.
Christ's Descent into Limbo, woodcut by Albrecht Dürer, c1510
Russian icon of Christ leading the righteous out of Hades (17th century, Solovetsky Monastery).

In the Acts of Pilate—usually incorporated with the widely-read medieval Gospel of Nicodemus—texts built around an original that might have been as old as the 3rd century A.D. with many improvements and embroidered interpolations, chapters 17 to 27 are called the Decensus Christi ad Inferos. They contain a dramatic dialogue between Hades and prince Satan, and the entry of the King of Glory, imagined as from within Tartarus (see link below). The richest, most circumstantial accounts of the Harrowing of Hell are found in medieval dramatic literature, such as the four great cycles of English mystery plays which each devote a separate scene to depict it, or in passing references in Dante's Inferno. The subject is found also in the Cornish mystery plays and the York and Wakefield cycles. These medieval versions of the story do not derive from the bare suggestion made in the Epistle ascribed to Peter, but come from the Gospel of Nicodemus.[citation needed] See "The Apocryphal New Testament" edited by Prof JK Elliott 1993 ISBN 0-19-826182-9 pp164 [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Conceptions of the afterlife
Main article: Afterlife

The Old Testament view of the afterlife was that all people, whether righteous or unrighteous, went to Sheol when they died. No Hebrew figure ever descended into Sheol and returned, although an apparition of the recently deceased Samuel briefly appeared to Saul when summoned by the Witch of Endor. Several works from the Second Temple period elaborate the concept of Sheol, dividing it into sections based on the righteousness or unrighteousness of those who have died.

The New Testament maintains a distinction between Sheol, the common "place of the dead", and the eternal destiny of those condemned at the Final Judgment, variously described as Gehenna, "the outer darkness," or a lake of eternal fire. Modern English translations of the Bible maintain this distinction (e.g. by translating Sheol as "the Pit" and Gehenna as "Hell"), but the influential King James Version used the word "hell" to translate both concepts.

The Hellenistic views of heroic descent into the Underworld and successful return follow traditions that are far older than the mystery religions popular at the time of Christ. The Epic of Gilgamesh includes such a scene, and it appears also in Odyssey XI. Writing shortly before the birth of Jesus, Vergil included it in the Aeneid. What little we know of the worship in mystery religions such as the Eleusinian Mysteries and Mithraism suggests that a ritual death and rebirth of the initiate was an important part of their liturgy. Again, this has earlier parallels, in particular with the worship of Osiris. The ancient homily on The Lord's Descent into Hell may mirror these traditions by referring to baptism as a symbolic death and rebirth. (cf. Colossians 2:9–15) Or, these traditions of Mithraism may be drawn from early Christian homilies. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Good link about biblical uses of Sheol...

Still have yet to address the question though.

Where else in scripture does it say that Jesus Christ descended there..?
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Who teaches about Christs 3 day descent into Hell?
Roman Catholic
Eastern Orthodox
Lutheran Martin Luther, in a sermon delivered in Torgau in 1533, stated that Christ descended into Hell.
Calvinist


THIS IS A VERY OLD TEACHING...NOT TAUGHT IN THE MODERN CHURCH
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You need to do some more research before you comment. I never comment on something I have never studied..makes me look like a fool
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Who teaches about Christs 3 day descent into Hell?
Roman Catholic
Eastern Orthodox
Lutheran Martin Luther, in a sermon delivered in Torgau in 1533, stated that Christ descended into Hell.
Calvinist


THIS IS A VERY OLD TEACHING...NOT TAUGHT IN THE MODERN CHURCH
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I agree.
I am quite curious as to why you are spreading it then.?
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You need to study scripture more.
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You need to do some more research before you comment. I never comment on something I have never studied..makes me look like a fool
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Then i highly suggest you follow your own advice and delete this thread.

No where, except in the above passage that i posted, does it say anything about Christ entering Hell. This is a false doctrine and should be avoided.

I believe Jesus said seven things before he died,

Jesus said seven things before He died:

"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do."
Gospel of Luke 23:34

"Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise."
Gospel of Luke 23:43

"Jesus said to his mother: "Woman, this is your son".
Then he said to the disciple: "This is your mother."
Gospel of John 19:26-27

"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34

"I thirst"
Gospel of John 19:28

When Jesus had received the wine, he said, "It is finished";
and he bowed his head and handed over the spirit.
Gospel of John 19:30

Jesus cried out in a loud voice,
"Father, into your hands I commend my spirit":
Gospel of Luke 23:46
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LOL...Silly argument. You have proved nothing.
and where do you think Christ went for 3 days?
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LOL...Silly argument. You have proved nothing.
and where do you think Christ went for 3 days?
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Jesus cried out in a loud voice,
"Father, into your hands I commend my spirit":
Gospel of Luke 23:46

I think this is a good starting point.
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nothing you have said has refuted anything in the video
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The law of death was something all souls where subject too until Jesus claimed the keys when death violated the law of liberty in consuming a spirit that had not waged sin. Wages of sin is death.





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