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They faked it ! The Moon Landing !!

 
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I never understood why people have this overwhelming desire to believe so much that the US gov put people on the moon.


Oh yeah, patriotism.

That will make the masses believe practically anything.

I saw it on TV when I was 9.

My grandpa who worked for Hughes said it was bullshit back then.

He said they initially seriously wanted to go to the moon with Apollo, plan A, but when they soon found it was not possible with their technology, they resorted to plan B - Bullshit.

I felt it was propaganda on that same day when they were "broadcasting live", when the announcer kept drilling in the "WE" thing so much.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Your Mexican grandpa worked for Hughes? hahahahaha

So Nixon got Kubrick to fake it even though Nixon was elected 2 years after shooting 2001 was finished? Give me a break.

Or are you going to talk nonsense like the Van Allen bands o doom?
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Nixon had power before he was elected president. Sneaky, devious power.
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There are mirros on the mon, mirros on the moon, mirrors on the moon, mirrors on the mon, mirrors on the moon - PUT BY THE MEN WHO LANDED.
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It is not necessary to search for evidence. The fact that the original recording of the NASA moon landing could not be found already proofs that they never went to the moon.

At that time you have given us a piece of moon rock.

Recently is proven that this was a fossil.



So, there are really no questions. NASA was not at the moon.
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See this movie:
Kubrick's Odyssey
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2010 was a brilliant film
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2010 sucked balls 2001 was pretty good
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No, they didn't fake it. And this information is from various insiders including Clark McClelland. Yes, they also made fake videos just in case and yes, they really did go to the moon as the craft was covered in nano gold particles to protect the astronauts from radiation when traveling through the Van Allen belt. In addition, there is jump room technology - around for years (since the 60's) where various people traveled to Mars and other places sans a craft. You may wish to check out Andrew Basiago's website on Project Pegasus. There are others who accompanied Andrew on various missions who have also disclosed including Bernard Maynard. There are threads on these individuals at GLP. Do a search.
Thread: Bernard Mendez Interview -- Special Presidential assistant ET Negotiator
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They did not coin the word nano back then and if that works so well, why don't they use that technology around nuclear reactors'

...and why should anyone believe in straw-man Basiago arguments either? Because it is a fun story and they want to believe?

Belief is a bad thing.

Most people believe things, because they want to. Not because they know things.

I saw what I saw on TV in '69 and formed an opinion that it reeked of propaganda.

My grandfather, "Jack" Allen, who was a lead electrical engineer for Howard Hughes, confirmed it was fraud in front of the whole family that same day.

That also influenced my opinion.

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See this movie:
Kubrick's Odyssey
 Quoting: WitchBoard


2010 was a brilliant film
 Quoting: miserkocho2


2010 sucked balls 2001 was pretty good
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945712


here we fucken go.boring as shit floating in space.this has been debated more than the moon landing "hoax"

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It is not necessary to search for evidence. The fact that the original recording of the NASA moon landing could not be found already proofs that they never went to the moon.

At that time you have given us a piece of moon rock.

Recently is proven that this was a fossil.



So, there are really no questions. NASA was not at the moon.
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Go smoke another bowl Amsterdumb stoner and go put on your wooden shoes and stick your finger in a dyke. Hopefully she'll punch you out.
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Yup
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03/08/2013 11:01 AM
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this photo says a lot

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

notice there is no mark from the landing thruster...and the thrusters di9dn't even blow away the moon dust...there is still enough moon dust to leave footprints.
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putin

Good lord, that isn't house or desert dust. That stuff has been there for billions of years and has undergone compaction over all that time. Once again no logic at all.

Oh yeah listen to the landing and Armstrong does say kicking up dust.

Too bad that they didn't send up a black tranny, then none of you idiots would dispute the Moon landing.
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Compaction? There is nothing to compact Moon dust.
That is why I think you can't land anything on the Moon.
It would just disappear like quicksand the minute you
put any weight on it.
It's why a inch wide pebble makes a crater as wide as a football field. There is no compaction.

The video of people walking on the lunar surface only
making a half inch deep depression is fake.

An astronaut in reality would probably sink below the surface in under 2 minutes flat.
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No, they didn't fake it. And this information is from various insiders including Clark McClelland. Yes, they also made fake videos just in case and yes, they really did go to the moon as the craft was covered in nano gold particles to protect the astronauts from radiation when traveling through the Van Allen belt. In addition, there is jump room technology - around for years (since the 60's) where various people traveled to Mars and other places sans a craft. You may wish to check out Andrew Basiago's website on Project Pegasus. There are others who accompanied Andrew on various missions who have also disclosed including Bernard Maynard. There are threads on these individuals at GLP. Do a search.
Thread: Bernard Mendez Interview -- Special Presidential assistant ET Negotiator
 Quoting: Alexander


They did not coin the word nano back then and if that works so well, why don't they use that technology around nuclear reactors'

...and why should anyone believe in straw-man Basiago arguments either? Because it is a fun story and they want to believe?

Belief is a bad thing.

Most people believe things, because they want to. Not because they know things.

I saw what I saw on TV in '69 and formed an opinion that it reeked of propaganda.

My grandfather, "Jack" Allen, who was a lead electrical engineer for Howard Hughes, confirmed it was fraud in front of the whole family that same day.

That also influenced my opinion.
 Quoting: ehecatl

Difficult to accept that you were fooled with your eyes wide open, isn't it?
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There are mirros on the mon, mirros on the moon, mirrors on the moon, mirrors on the mon, mirrors on the moon - PUT BY THE MEN WHO LANDED.
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There are rovers on Mars, rovers on Mars, rovers on Mars
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I saw what I saw on TV in '69 and formed an opinion that it reeked of propaganda.

My grandfather, "Jack" Allen, who was a lead electrical engineer for Howard Hughes, confirmed it was fraud in front of the whole family that same day.

That also influenced my opinion.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I think gramps was pulling your leg. Lots of people tell BS stories.

BTW, lead electrical engineer could very well mean he was a drafter and in charge of some young drafters that mostly folded blue prints.

Kubrick filmed 2001 well before Nixon became president. The whole Nixon did it is total idiocy.
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There are mirros on the mon, mirros on the moon, mirrors on the moon, mirrors on the mon, mirrors on the moon - PUT BY THE MEN WHO LANDED.
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There are rovers on Mars, rovers on Mars, rovers on Mars
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The rovers are on the Atacama Desert, Atacama Desert, Atacama Desert.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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Compaction? There is nothing to compact Moon dust.
That is why I think you can't land anything on the Moon.
It would just disappear like quicksand the minute you
put any weight on it.
It's why a inch wide pebble makes a crater as wide as a football field. There is no compaction.

The video of people walking on the lunar surface only
making a half inch deep depression is fake.

An astronaut in reality would probably sink below the surface in under 2 minutes flat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


Lunar quakes over billions of years would compact all voids except perhaps a fraction of an inch of surface. Especially since there is no atmosphere to interfere with the process.

BTW, even Hoaxy Hoagland laughs at this MoonTarding.
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stupid idiots!!! the moon has less gravity and there is no atmosphere!! the rockets dispersed IMMEDIATELY!! stupid ppl!
Prepare yourself for the coming power outage!!

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Re: They faked it ! The Moon Landing !!
It is not necessary to search for evidence. The fact that the original recording of the NASA moon landing could not be found already proofs that they never went to the moon.

At that time you have given us a piece of moon rock.

Recently is proven that this was a fossil.



So, there are really no questions. NASA was not at the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048


Go smoke another bowl Amsterdumb stoner and go put on your wooden shoes and stick your finger in a dyke. Hopefully she'll punch you out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945712


Well wisdom herself to speak. I believe that you immediately believed in the story. If you think water can be stopped by putting a finger in the dike, then your mind must be in your ass. Surely.

Now I understand why Caterina was that big problem for you.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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I never understood why people have this overwhelming desire to believe so much that the US gov put people on the moon.


Oh yeah, patriotism.

That will make the masses believe practically anything.

I saw it on TV when I was 9.

My grandpa who worked for Hughes said it was bullshit back then.

He said they initially seriously wanted to go to the moon with Apollo, plan A, but when they soon found it was not possible with their technology, they resorted to plan B - Bullshit.

I felt it was propaganda on that same day when they were "broadcasting live", when the announcer kept drilling in the "WE" thing so much.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Your Mexican grandpa worked for Hughes? hahahahaha

So Nixon got Kubrick to fake it even though Nixon was elected 2 years after shooting 2001 was finished? Give me a break.

Or are you going to talk nonsense like the Van Allen bands o doom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945712


Nixon had power before he was elected president. Sneaky, devious power.
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Nixon was not the only president or person involved in the hoax obviously.

As far as my families involvement with Hughes and Disney, I have detailed that more thoroughly in previous threads.

Those relations are on my mothers side of the family. My birth father was Mexican, but I was raised in the US from infancy.

The fact that I live in Mexico now says nothing about my past.
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There are mirros on the mon, mirros on the moon, mirrors on the moon, mirrors on the mon, mirrors on the moon - PUT BY THE MEN WHO LANDED.
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Huston we have a repeater.

It is all a product of High school education...Repeating shit.
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Osama is living in Apollo capsule dumped in ocean. They thought of everything.

Bastards.
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That's a pretty cool site. Man!

But here's a question they do not answer:

How did they fake a saturn rocket taking off with men inside? And if they didn't fake that, then what were those guys doing for a week? Orbiting the earth?
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Re: They faked it ! The Moon Landing !!
The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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Right. I dont understand how people manage to debunk even hardcore facts, everythink is debnkable I guess, thus NO EVIDENCE can change their opinions, idiots.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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That is absolutely no evidence. Our current techniques are considerably more advanced than at that time. This flag can perhaps be put down recently.
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If they can produce satellite images of a newspaper on the earth, why can't they produce moon images with the landers still there?

Not that I would trust the images even if they did.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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That is absolutely no evidence. Our current techniques are considerably more advanced than at that time. This flag can perhaps be put down recently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

That means we do have the technlogy to go to moon, and this fact shuts up a large part of consp. theorists who dont believe we have the technology.
Now only the ones who believe we used alien tech and the ones who think we went to moon later are left. I guess thats progress.
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I'm really on the fence to whether it's real or not. It does seem pretty unbelievable to me now, but I still want to believe it. I just began to factor in the distance of travel and the time it happened. The space shuttle orbits earth at about 250 miles high from the earth's surface, yet in the late 60's and early 70's BP (Before Pong), after the rocket stages, we sent a pod looking like tin foil 236,000 miles into space and landed on the moon. Then they made it all the way back! It just looks like a Sean Connery Bond film.

It just seems that if we went in 1969-1972, we would've done another mission since then. People's favorite excuse for that is "it costs too much money, that's why we don't go anymore". That is the lamest excuse. Do these people honestly believe our government doesn't want to waste money? Our government spends money on the most stupid shit, yet they never wanted to go back to the moon because of the cost? If we could land on the moon in 1969, I would think that we would be much more advanced now than we are. If we could land on the moon, we should be able to have commercial airliners that can break orbit; thus, decreasing flight times. A plane could leave the middle of the US, break orbit, then land in Australia withing a couple hours.

People who believe this story without any doubt are simply like children who believe in Santa Claus. As a kid, I remember when a friend of mine told me and a couple of other friends that Santa Claus wasn't real, that our parents bought the presents and left them under the tree. We first laughed at him like he was joking. When he kept pressing it, we tried to reason with him. "How can Santa not be real?" "You can't make up a lie that big. There's movies, stories, songs, pictures, and figurines of Santa." Then after he kept trying to tell us there was no Santa, we started getting angry at him. We called him names and told him he was stupid. A lot of adults are like grown children who look at the government as their parents, so they believe the Santa stories and get angry when someone tells them that Santa government doesn't exist.
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 Quoting: wing-ed


That's a pretty cool site. Man!

But here's a question they do not answer:

How did they fake a saturn rocket taking off with men inside? And if they didn't fake that, then what were those guys doing for a week? Orbiting the earth?
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They did not fake that. They just did not go to the moon with them.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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That is absolutely no evidence. Our current techniques are considerably more advanced than at that time. This flag can perhaps be put down recently.
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putin

[link to www.google.com]
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"There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment"

Is there? Have you seen them, the answer is no you have not seen them.

But yes there are satellites photos.





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