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They faked it ! The Moon Landing !!

 
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It's interesting how the posters who don't think the moon landings were real all sound very intelligent and knowledgeable and literate enough to write in complete sentences, whereas the moon landing supporters sound, well.... retarded and quite illiterate. I wonder why this would be....are their responses being written by some poorly executed computer program? They certainly don't give me much confidence in the state of "science" these days.
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It reflects the generation and education level of most paid shills these days.
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It's actually kind of scary that even the shills are of such poor quality nowadays. I wonder if the government has outsourced shillery. Maybe they're writing from shill factories in China while chained to Apple laptops.
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I met Buzz Aldrin during the week, he was in Dublin. I asked him why they faked the moon landings. He angrily said 'You don't know shit' and stalked off with his handlers.

I did it for GLP folks.
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I met John Glenn, he asked me for some ketchup. (I was working at a resort in Orlando, and he was wandering around the breakfast buffet. I guess he assumed since I was wearing an ID badge, I knew where the ketchup was located). I also met his grandson, who was wearing a Pink Floyd 'Dark Side of the Moon' t-shirt, haha!

hf
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...an interesting angle you rarely hear mentioned from "either" side.

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chuckle cruise lmao
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3.2.1...

cue the shills.

the debunkers that will defy logic...

they will lunar module thrusters don't cause moon surface distortion because its Harry Potter or some crap...

and they will then say that it's rockets can thrust on a surface and leave no evidence or proof that it did

it happen over 40 years ago an they have never been back. that and the fact the lunar module has been put together with sticky tape

plus there are studio light reflections in some I the picture

fake for sure

this just further supports such claims

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Actually, the moon is fake too.
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I wonder if those people who believe in the moon landings, also believe that the James Bond movies of the era, like Moonraker, etc, are real. After all, Auric Goldfinger did very advanced early work in the use of lasers.
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I'm leaning on total FAKE. Just look at all the symbolism in The Shining, he did'nt do all that for self gratification, he was trying to tell us...
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Seriously...you all sound like mouth-breathing, drooling, brass plated idiots. You really do. I presume your agenda is just plain ridicule as you have...no actual arguments to support your position other than....saying that the whores and bullies of the government media complex say so and how could we question the perceived reality of the 1960s... I'm sure you also believe that Oswald killed Kennedy, now dontcha?. Really, when you have to cite someone as pathetic as Richard Hoagland to support your cause, you really don't have much ammo in your BB gun. Try again.
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Only an ignorant fool couldn't understand that going to the Moon was an engineering problem that was solved by spending a fuckin big pile of money on a lot of really bright people. I suppose with the level of stupidity around now days its understandable that many vaccinated fluoridated chem trailed ignorant fools would believe this Moon Hoax bilge.
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I am a pilot and engineer who was in the Air Force. I have studied every detail of aviation and space travel since I was 5 years old. I have a stack of books about the Apollo and Gemini programs going back 30 years.

I have been to the Smithsonian several times to see all the exhibits and I have been to the "non-public" space exhibits as well because my grandfather was a Captain in the navy and a Naval astrophysicist.

AND, I knew one of the Astronauts (Col. Mike Anderson) killed in the shuttle re-entry breakup from the Air Force.

The only things I can say on this subject with 100% certainty are:

There were a HELL of a lot of jobs created in order to build all of that moon stuff so no engineer would question it.

We are actually able to put satellites and shuttles in orbit - I have seen the ISS in orbit with my own eyes.

There some pretty damning videos and pictures of the Apollo stuff - such as guys in the moon falling over and magically being pulled upright.


My advice is to keep an open mind and question anything you see on TV or anything claimed by the government.

The first order of business for all military and government personnel is the BRAINWASH THEM with the current party line.

It is very difficult IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE for some gov. employees to EVER deprogram themselves once they are out.

Combine that with millions of dollars in secret payoffs and legal immunity plus a threat that "if you talk, we'll give your wife and kids cancer" and you see how a hoax COULD persist forever.

same deal with 9/11 :P
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So beautifully said.

And I'll follow up with this,
about the art of corrupting humans.


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I'm confused.. So do the majority in this thread believe we went to the moon or not.

I say sure we did and do, the only problem is that your not invited.
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The first youtube film mentions absence of blowing moondust and imprint: Assuming near-vacuum conditions abide on the moonsurface, wouldn't all dust be compacted into cakelike substance because of the vacuumcondition and the surface being bonedry wouldn't the moondust also be highly statically charged and thus cling together even more ?
Second argument concerns the absence or rocketthrust noise in the LEM approaching the surface: Am I right in assuming that the thunderous rocketnoise is mostly observed in the atmospheric surrounding, at least certainly for the onlookers, the rocketthrust emission interacting with the atmosphere, thus creating that tearing soundpressure ?
So in the vacuum of space such enginethrust noise would not be there and hence the comparative silence within the LEM ?
Beside the likely presence of an installed mirrorstructure on the moon by astronauts for more accurate measuring of Earth-Moon distance, during later Apollo flights seismic equipment was installed so when one of the LEMS's smashed onto the lunar surface, they were able to establish that the moon's bell-like reverberations went on for hours, indicating the moon might be a hollow body or at least partly.
Also on earlier missions magnetic moon measurements indicated the presence of socalled mascons, more concentrated spots of magnetic intensity and varying gravity I believe.
Perhaps the Van Allen Belt radiation varies in intensity, depending on solar radiation e.g. and might exhibit loopholes for the Apollo capsule to travel through, just guessing though.
If one looks carefully at moonphoto's from the fifties, one is able to discern artificial structures on the Moon, either remnants from ancient indian space explorations according to vedic sources, or from ancient alien species and who still maintain inhabited outposts and who wouldn't want human beings pokng around on the moonsurface, interrupting their splendid observationposts.
It was rumoured at the time in '69 that the astronauts were waited upon and encircled by alien craft on the moonsurface, welcoming them or telling to stay away in future. Wonder what really happened during the first landing in '68.
I watched the event live at the time and at one point the commentator mentioned the presence of a lightsource in the background that couldn't be accounted for and explained it was probably burning swampgas, hahaha.
The public was ignorant then and largely still is, so the lightpresence wasn't queried, but maybe that strange light was actually one of the ufocraft encircling the LEM at some distance, ha.
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hahaha, good morning.. yes, they indeed did it :)
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the real question for me is.. WHY? ;D
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The broadcasting was maybe a fake but the landing did happen, mirrors are still there and you can hit them with a laser from earth and it will reflect back.
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Weird, cause the Sun's rays can too, without mirrors.
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ya think them mirrors would reflect bright spots back to earth when the shine shines on the moon
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Exactly. You'd think there would be brighter mirror glints off the moonlit surface. But, there aren't, of course.
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The broadcasting was maybe a fake but the landing did happen, mirrors are still there and you can hit them with a laser from earth and it will reflect back.
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cruise
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the real question for me is.. WHY? ;D
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I can think of 40 billion reasons
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Weird, cause the Sun's rays can too, without mirrors.
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lol, 20 years from now nobody will have come up for an answer to that one.
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the real question for me is.. WHY? ;D
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1) propaganda 2) money
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The broadcasting was maybe a fake but the landing did happen, mirrors are still there and you can hit them with a laser from earth and it will reflect back.
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Weird, cause the Sun's rays can too, without mirrors.
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ya think them mirrors would reflect bright spots back to earth when the shine shines on the moon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18237036


Exactly. You'd think there would be brighter mirror glints off the moonlit surface. But, there aren't, of course.
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Never breed.
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they did land on the moon
they just didnt used the craft they said they did/photo'd

the craft they used was of german design

they had to fake the photos to keep them secret

:)
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I'm confused.. So do the majority in this thread believe we went to the moon or not.

I say sure we did and do, the only problem is that your not invited.
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Democracy.

Leave it up to a vote, and the shills (and straw-men) win, hands down.

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Here we are sending frigging robots that are insanely high tech laboratories to Mars and some people still think we can't send a man to the moon!
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Why is it that NASA hasn't had an independent confirmation of their moon landing?
 Quoting: nibiru2012planetx

Why is it that hoaxies are always ignorant of the evidence.

Maybe Japan could have vet that and confirm they have landed.
 Quoting: nibiru2012planetx

Why is it that hoaxies don't know that they did?

But here at NASA (Never A Straight Answer), they decide to publicly announce their landing and we should take their word for it...
 Quoting: nibiru2012planetx

If you actually cared you would have studied the evidence.
Since you obviously don't care about the truth you're just throwing shit at the wall.
book

The Saturn V rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching 118 miles altitude, all verified by Wiki.

With only 4% fuel remaining in the final S-IVB stage, we are faced with really only (2) choices.

1.) orbit back to earth
2.) continue on a 500,000 mile mission
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*****

Five star post!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838

Five star idiocy.

It only demonstrates a profound lack of of understanding of the physics of space travel.
book

The Russians thru Pravda wrote many articles showing that the lamdings were faked,
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[citation needed]

the mirrors on the moon could have been placed without humans doing it.
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Than proof that they were.

NASA has provided a whole chain of evidence on how those retroflectors got there.
You have just fantasised a secret space program, with secret launches of invisible spacecraft, using secret robotic technology still not publicly available.
Do you have any evidence for that?

Besides it does not matter as you can use the surface of the moon as a reflecter.
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You can tell the difference.

Also laser beams spread too wide at two hundred thousand miles plus for the mirrors to be effective
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Proof it.

Surprise us and use actual physics and actual mathematics.
book

It's interesting that when the apollo capsules returned to Earth they also ditched in the ocean.
 Quoting: Liar liar pants on fire 1524722

All the capsules were recovered.

If they could land a ship so perfectly on the moon, why couldn't they have returned the capsule onto the ground here rather than always ditch in the ocean?
 Quoting: Liar liar pants on fire 1524722

It allows for a softer landing.
(Without using extra fuel.)

Bottom line is: all we know about our government is that it lies about EVERYTHING repeatedly and compulsively, and without independent verification, we literally cannot believe anything that has come out of the American government at least since the end of WW2.
 Quoting: Liar liar pants on fire 1524722

Follow the evidence.

Bottom line is that if you claim they lied about THIS you have the burden of proof.
That means presenting actual evidence, not a string of arguments from ignorance.
book

this photo says a lot
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

notice there is no mark from the landing thruster...
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Get a close-up.

and the thrusters di9dn't even blow away the moon dust...
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Don't lie...

We can see dust blow in the DAC footage, we can hear Armstrong remarking on it.

there is still enough moon dust to leave footprints.
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Why would the regolith have been ALL blown away?

Surprise us and use actual physics and actual mathematics.

good lord, my ass. you believe that armstrong could talk over the 10,000 pound thruster?
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Pray tell, what causes most of the noise of a rocket engine?

And what was the DPS throttled at just before landing?

Also, have you ever heard of directional microphones?

and you think that thruster didn't leave a mark?
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No.
It did leave a mark.
Which is clearly visible in the close-ups.

and you think it left a bunch of lose dirt?
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Yup.

all kinds of logic.
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All kinds of physics and mathematics.
We know the thrust, we know the width of the engine bell, we know how high above the surface it was, we know how fast moving gases behave in a vacuum, we know how they entrain particles, we know the mechanical behaviour of the regolith.
It is you who doesn't know any of these things and has just confabulated a "fact".

The real world is not binary, many phenomena aren't either one state or an other, there usually is a spectrum.
Your logical fallacy is: false dichotomy.
book

It is not necessary to search for evidence.
 Quoting: Dutch Moran 27459048

Roflcopter...

The fact that the original recording of the NASA moon landing could not be found already proofs that they never went to the moon.
 Quoting: Dutch Moran 27459048

Define "original recording".
What data exactly is mising?

The moonlanding?
Never heard of Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17, have you?

At that time you have given us a piece of moon rock.
 Quoting: Dutch Moran 27459048

Proof it.
Nobody got moonrocks in 1969.
Not even presidents and kings. Not even Kosygin.

So why would Middendorf give one to a private citizen and only to him? On the same day he met the queen?
The whole silly story doesn't add up.

Recently is proven that this was a fossil.
 Quoting: Dutch Moran 27459048

Proof that anyone who could have known ever claimed is was a moonrock...

So, there are really no questions. NASA was not at the moon.
 Quoting: Dutch Moran 27459048

Ignorant, gullible, incapable of independent research, or critical thinking.
The recipe for making a hoaxie.
book

If they can produce satellite images of a newspaper on the earth, why can't they produce moon images with the landers still there?
 Quoting: ehecatl

Get out from under your rock.

LROC_A17

Not that I would trust the images even if they did.
 Quoting: ehecatl

Since you've already ignored a vast ammount of evidence that is no surprise.
Hoaxies are incapable of defining their standard of evidence and stick to it.

But here's a question they do not answer:

How did they fake a saturn rocket taking off with men inside? And if they didn't fake that, then what were those guys doing for a week? Orbiting the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6493463

They did not fake that. They just did not go to the moon with them.
 Quoting: ehecatl

So they made the spacecraft invisible and launched a decoy towards the Moon?

How did they do that and what is your evidence?
book
Darryl Cunningham Investigates The Moon Hoax [link to darryl-cunningham.blogspot.com]
Moon Base Clavius, for all your debunking needs [link to www.xmission.com]

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Yep
Thread: My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.
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The broadcasting was maybe a fake but the landing did happen, mirrors are still there and you can hit them with a laser from earth and it will reflect back.
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Weird, cause the Sun's rays can too, without mirrors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


Mirrors on the moon don't prove there was a manned landing on the moon. They sent up a number of un-manned test run rockets to the moon...before and after Apollo. Could they not be remnants of said rockets?
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The Saturn V rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching 118 miles altitude, all verified by Wiki.

With only 4% fuel remaining in the final S-IVB stage, we are faced with really only (2) choices.

1.) orbit back to earth
2.) continue on a 500,000 mile mission
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2 choices only cruise

clappa
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Regardless of if they actually got to the moon or not,

why should common people of the nation be forced to pay for it?

It was all about propaganda first, and not about science.
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I met Buzz Aldrin during the week, he was in Dublin. I asked him why they faked the moon landings. He angrily said 'You don't know shit' and stalked off with his handlers.

I did it for GLP folks.
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lmaoclappahf
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That's the Nixon did it con. Nice mockumentary





GLP