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Major Ammo "Shortage"

 
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don't worry folks

once the bullets start flying
there will be plenty of ammo
AND GUNS laying on the battle
field for retrieval by the
survivors.
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03/19/2013 12:21 AM
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don't worry folks

once the bullets start flying
there will be plenty of ammo
AND GUNS laying on the battle
field for retrieval by the
survivors.
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Yes,because they would be the ones left huh? The ones not protecting themselves.
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Guns are evil, turn in your guns you sick people. Seriously, fuckin' stop it already. What is wrong with you sick fucks?
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03/19/2013 12:42 AM
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Guns are evil, turn in your guns you sick people. Seriously, fuckin' stop it already. What is wrong with you sick fucks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36368363


People can be evil and it sounds like you are for wanting people not to be able to protect themselves.

Choke on a A1 sack.
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03/19/2013 12:48 AM
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People can be evil and it sounds like you are for wanting people not to be able to protect themselves.
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Protect themselves against who? what? I hate to tell you this, but the British aren't coming anymore and neither are the Indians.
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People can be evil and it sounds like you are for wanting people not to be able to protect themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33825975


Protect themselves against who? what? I hate to tell you this, but the British aren't coming anymore and neither are the Indians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35346996


I live in the country with the most people in prison. Crime all around.

Redcoats and red people. FFS. You can't be for real.

When seconds count,law enforcement is minutes away, if they even come at all. You seem hopeless but I hope that clears that up for you, if not die by horse spelunking for all I care.
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03/19/2013 01:21 AM
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if you are just now figuring that out you are part of the problem
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Guns are evil, turn in your guns you sick people. Seriously, fuckin' stop it already. What is wrong with you sick fucks?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36368363


Nothing...we just enjoy ising dumb bastards like you for target practice. I know your type...and soon I'll be hunting you :-)
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03/19/2013 01:53 AM
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Okay, so the official story is that the federal government is buying this ammo for training, and none or very little is left for the general consumer... I was unaware that the fed gov used 22 in anyway? So, is the gov buying 22 to keep it off the shelves, or are people purely panic buying, thus inflating the price?
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03/19/2013 01:58 AM
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Re: Major Ammo "Shortage"
rumor has it, obongo put a halt on all foreign ammo importation, slipped in with some bill. So no more cheap 7.62


its simple really, buy up all the ammo for the departments, create mass fear buying for the rest of us. Then make the manufacture of ammo illegal.


on another note, i was at walmart and to my surprise they had a 250 round UMC bulk pack of .40S&W. picked it up

first i seen ammo there in a good while
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Without getting into too much detail, let's just say my work allows me to visit a lot of gun shops and sporting goods stores.

No one, and I repeat, no one has .223 or 22 LR, and on the rare occasions suppliers get some, it is gone immediately. 9mm is nearly impossible to find, and recently even .357 and 40 caliber has disappeared (both were available as recently as a month ago).

The following calibers ARE readily available, and I am thinking of buying into these calibers myself:

- Pretty much all shotgun shells are readily available everywhere
- .17, .22 magnum, .250, .243, 44 mag, .45
- Sometimes I will find .38 special, 30-30, and oddball calibers like 7mm mauser or .303 british.
- Interestingly, 5.45 x 39 (AK 74) is readily in bulk as surplus, as is 7.62 x 54 (Mossin Nagant).

So if you don't own guns and want to stock up while you can still buy, I would buy a .17 cal, 12 gauge shot gun, .243 deer rifle, AK 74 assualt rifle, Mossin Nagant bolt action rifle, a 44 magnum revolver, or a 1911 .45.

You can still buy at gun shows. New .223 ammo goes for .80-1.00 per round. Reloads run .50-.70 round. .22 long rifle will run you at least .10 a round, as high as .40 per round.

You can find it online, but you need to check www.gunbot.com constantly to find a decent deal, otherwise you will get burned bad.

Hope this helps someone...
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in my experience, even 12 gauge is dried up in vegas

sometimes i run into some birdshot, and will buy whatever is there. Buckshot is becoming extremely hard to find

plenty of 16/20 gauge and .410 though
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03/19/2013 03:24 AM
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“We are producing as much as we can. … No one wants to ship more during this time than we do.”
“We are working as hard as we can to produce an increased supply of quality ammunition to meet our customers’ needs.”

[link to thesouthern.com]
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03/19/2013 03:46 AM
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Didn't any of You folks, Prep for 2012 in 2010?
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You were warned way back then.
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Didn't any of You folks, Prep for 2012 in 2010?
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LOL!! I prepped for Y2K! Still nothing.........
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Didn't any of You folks, Prep for 2012 in 2010?
 Quoting: 6EQUJ5


You were warned way back then.
 Quoting: Garman906


There is no point in humiliating anyone for being behind the curve. That's water under a bridge. I'm well stocked. I'm also concerned for those who have recently woken up to this systematic infringement on our rights. To their detriment, many have simply ignored the value of their rights, the 2nd Amendment notwithstanding. But they're waking up, to their credit. These are the people you want to help. Self-serving critics need to climb back in their holes, because they are likely of little value to the cause in a strategic sense. If you have a friend or neighbor reaching out, let's bring them up to speed before we lose them to a sense of desperation and the grinder they'll be assimilated by.
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Didn't any of You folks, Prep for 2012 in 2010?
 Quoting: 6EQUJ5


You were warned way back then.
 Quoting: Garman906


There is no point in humiliating anyone for being behind the curve. That's water under a bridge. I'm well stocked. I'm also concerned for those who have recently woken up to this systematic infringement on our rights. To their detriment, many have simply ignored the value of their rights, the 2nd Amendment notwithstanding. But they're waking up, to their credit. These are the people you want to help. Self-serving critics need to climb back in their holes, because they are likely of little value to the cause in a strategic sense. If you have a friend or neighbor reaching out, let's bring them up to speed before we lose them to a sense of desperation and the grinder they'll be assimilated by.
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clappa
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wow
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Didn't any of You folks, Prep for 2012 in 2010?
 Quoting: 6EQUJ5


You were warned way back then.
 Quoting: Garman906


There is no point in humiliating anyone for being behind the curve. That's water under a bridge. I'm well stocked. I'm also concerned for those who have recently woken up to this systematic infringement on our rights. To their detriment, many have simply ignored the value of their rights, the 2nd Amendment notwithstanding. But they're waking up, to their credit. These are the people you want to help. Self-serving critics need to climb back in their holes, because they are likely of little value to the cause in a strategic sense. If you have a friend or neighbor reaching out, let's bring them up to speed before we lose them to a sense of desperation and the grinder they'll be assimilated by.
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Good post A/C...
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03/19/2013 02:26 PM
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Make sure you win the first gun battle and take ammo off of the dead.....
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I went to Gander Mtn, no handgun ammo period. Went on Cheaper Than Dirt, all but 1 overpriced brand of 9mm out of stock. Went to Bass Pro Shop and both the ammo and handgun racks shelves were almost bare. Employees had no clue when or if more would be available. wtf

Let me know if your state is any better, I am in IL!
 Quoting: FuzzyLumpkin


Soooo, the million dollar question is where is the ammo ending up?

Government purchases, regular gun owners, horders ?

Supply chain issues ???
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The distributors are short. THAT'S what signals cause for concern. Manufacturers will tell you they are at capacity. Let's assume they are. That would guarantee deliveries of product to the retailers at the same relative frequency as they once arrived. I say "relative," because many retailers are no longer reordering much of what they once carried (Dick's, WM, etc.). That should return even more product into the supply chain, making it even more available. But it's not. The retailers are screaming for product, but the distributors can't sell what they don't have. I'd like to assert that the manufacturers ARE at capacity (not entirely a lie), but that what they are turning out is, by-and-large, never intended for civilian distribution. What seems more plausible is a scenario in which this ammo is either filling open-ended government contracts or it is being diverted and warehoused (or simply warehoused at its point of origin). The Russians, the Serbs, the Chinese, etc. haven't stopped banging out the less expensive ammo that, until recently, allowed us to bathe in it. I can only assert that ahead of the UN Small Arms Treaty, the U.S. Government is taking pre-emptive measures to prevent its import, distribution, and sale as well.
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Dianne Feinstein has provided a diversion all along. An assault weapons ban was never expected to pass. What it DID do is serve to distract us all from the UN Small Arms Treaty that I previously mentioned. That will be ratified, and we will have the most serious Constitutional crises on our hands we have ever faced, based on the nature of it and its magnitude. This seems fantastic to me too, but ALL things considered, this nation is ripe for a grab like this. And it would be a one-time opportunity as the "Henry Kissingers" know full-well. My God, the implications are staggering. The smoke would clear eventually, the blood running in the gutters would eventually be washed clean, incidental resistance would be eliminated, and voila - the light would rise over a new horizon and a new age. It sickens me to even entertain this.
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Georgia Guidestones.....
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Georgia Guidestones.....
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Does the word for "Henry Kissinger" in Sumerian or Babylonian appear on there anywhere?
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Without getting into too much detail, let's just say my work allows me to visit a lot of gun shops and sporting goods stores.

No one, and I repeat, no one has .223 or 22 LR, and on the rare occasions suppliers get some, it is gone immediately. 9mm is nearly impossible to find, and recently even .357 and 40 caliber has disappeared (both were available as recently as a month ago).

The following calibers ARE readily available, and I am thinking of buying into these calibers myself:

- Pretty much all shotgun shells are readily available everywhere
- .17, .22 magnum, .250, .243, 44 mag, .45
- Sometimes I will find .38 special, 30-30, and oddball calibers like 7mm mauser or .303 british.
- Interestingly, 5.45 x 39 (AK 74) is readily in bulk as surplus, as is 7.62 x 54 (Mossin Nagant).

So if you don't own guns and want to stock up while you can still buy, I would buy a .17 cal, 12 gauge shot gun, .243 deer rifle, AK 74 assualt rifle, Mossin Nagant bolt action rifle, a 44 magnum revolver, or a 1911 .45.

You can still buy at gun shows. New .223 ammo goes for .80-1.00 per round. Reloads run .50-.70 round. .22 long rifle will run you at least .10 a round, as high as .40 per round.

You can find it online, but you need to check www.gunbot.com constantly to find a decent deal, otherwise you will get burned bad.

Hope this helps someone...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14016885


You can't reload the 5.45 and 7.62 rounds, can you? (Actually asking the question.)
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
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Dianne Feinstein has provided a diversion all along. An assault weapons ban was never expected to pass. What it DID do is serve to distract us all from the UN Small Arms Treaty that I previously mentioned. That will be ratified, and we will have the most serious Constitutional crises on our hands we have ever faced, based on the nature of it and its magnitude. This seems fantastic to me too, but ALL things considered, this nation is ripe for a grab like this. And it would be a one-time opportunity as the "Henry Kissingers" know full-well. My God, the implications are staggering. The smoke would clear eventually, the blood running in the gutters would eventually be washed clean, incidental resistance would be eliminated, and voila - the light would rise over a new horizon and a new age. It sickens me to even entertain this.
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we do not recognize the UN as a governing body

Any law that violates the Constitution is unenforceable and therefore should not be followed.
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Can somebody please explain this ammunition shortage in laymans terms? What is all the fuss about?
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Hello, sure I will take a stab. or should I say, take a shot? :P

Ammo.
There's just about none left in the US market.
Not quite none, but much less than some.
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Guns are evil, turn in your guns you sick people. Seriously, fuckin' stop it already. What is wrong with you sick fucks?
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People like you are what is wrong with us, you fucking liberal pussified piece of shit. You don't get it and never will. It's not about the guns, it's your rights and freedom, you fucking assclown. Now go suck on your Mac daddy Odongo's dick a while longer, you're gonna get exactly what you deserve.
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Dianne Feinstein has provided a diversion all along. An assault weapons ban was never expected to pass. What it DID do is serve to distract us all from the UN Small Arms Treaty that I previously mentioned. That will be ratified, and we will have the most serious Constitutional crises on our hands we have ever faced, based on the nature of it and its magnitude. This seems fantastic to me too, but ALL things considered, this nation is ripe for a grab like this. And it would be a one-time opportunity as the "Henry Kissingers" know full-well. My God, the implications are staggering. The smoke would clear eventually, the blood running in the gutters would eventually be washed clean, incidental resistance would be eliminated, and voila - the light would rise over a new horizon and a new age. It sickens me to even entertain this.
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we do not recognize the UN as a governing body

Any law that violates the Constitution is unenforceable and therefore should not be followed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21681843


In a vacuum, that's all absolutely true and irrefutable. If I didn't know better, I'd swear we're simply seeing the path the Bolsheviks led Russia down and the path our criminal leadership led us down both in the last hundred years converge.
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a neighbor went to gander mtn,gun store in denver last friday. they were selling 50 round boxs of 22lr for 24.00 dollars a box. this guy purchased 260.00 worth. thats just insane. don't purchase from these assholes.





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