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(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not a Christ-tard, or Bible-tard, but Ecclesiates said it all; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36434165 All is vanity, sayeth the Preacher, and there is nothing new under the Sun. Kinda paraphrased it there, but that's the gist. Gnomesayin'? I am not sure I am making the connection you intend for me to see. Would you please elaborate? What I think you mean, is that people's minds have been manipulated by external forces (other individuals, groups, etc.) since man first began to think. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36434165 United Kingdom 03/18/2013 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not a Christ-tard, or Bible-tard, but Ecclesiates said it all; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36434165 All is vanity, sayeth the Preacher, and there is nothing new under the Sun. Kinda paraphrased it there, but that's the gist. Gnomesayin'? I am not sure I am making the connection you intend for me to see. Would you please elaborate? What I think you mean, is that people's minds have been manipulated by external forces (other individuals, groups, etc.) since man first began to think. Yep. That's about the strength of it. |
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User ID: 24021617 United Kingdom 03/18/2013 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you ever heard of a man named Gustav Whitehead? Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer If you asked 100 random people on the street, "Who was the first human being to ever fly in an airplane?" how many do you think would give you the correct response? What would your answer be? "The Wright Brothers- Orville and Wilbur Wright were the first humans to ever fly!" Why do you think this to be so? Well, for one, that is what every history book says! And, if you go to the biggest, most important history museum in the United States, The Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., they even have the airplane they created and flew in, The 1903 Wright Flyer on display there! In fact, here is a snippet from The Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum's own website, [link to airandspace.si.edu] "Removed temporarily from its place of honor in Milestones of Flight, the 1903 Wright Flyer, the world's first successful airplane, serves as the centerpiece of this exhibition, which celebrates the centennial of the Wright brothers' historic flights. For the first time, the airplane is being displayed on the floor, so you can get a close-up, eye-level look at the historic craft that ushered in the age of flight. The first part of this exhibition tells the story of how Wilbur and Orville Wright invented the airplane—who they were, how they worked, and what they accomplished. The second part shows how their monumental achievement affected the world in the decade that followed, when people everywhere became fascinated with flight." But, who is Gustav Whitehead, and why is his story SO IMPORTANT? The Wright Brothers were not the first human beings to fly. Someone designed, constructed, and successfully flew in the air a flying machine, before they did. Not days, weeks, or months before the Wright Brothers.... TWO YEARS before the Wright Brothers ever flew, Gustav Whitehead flew in the air in a flying machine. More than 100 different newspapers reported this incredible feat, newspapers from across the United States, Hawaii, to as far away as Australie, Germany, and France, Gustav Whitehead was reported as having flown in the air in a flying machine he built. In the year 1901. Please, do not take my word for it. Do not *ever* trust the words of anyone, without independently verifying the information as true for yourself. Here is but one source which backs up the claims I write in the above paragraph: [link to www.ctpost.com] Please, investigate this yourself, and draw your own conclusions. But, why is Gustav Whitehead not rightfully credited with the accomplishment? Why has the true history not been reported? Do you think this is an isolated incident? Do you think this is truly the only case of "revisionist history" in the world? Why do so many human beings, perhaps even you, believe Wilbur and Orville Wright were the first humans to fly, when there is absolute evidence that a man named Gustav Whitehead flew two years prior, in 1901 in Connecticut? Is it because The Smithsonian Institute says it to be true? Because The Smithsonian claims authority over historical fact, whatever The Smithsonian says is true, it *must* be true? Do you accept as truth whatever is reported on the nightly news, the daily newspaper, the news websites that have three letters followed by a .com? I close in asking you this: What do you think about Iran? Now, before answering, you might ask for clarification: What do I mean, "about Iran?" Am I asking about politics, am I asking about the nation's history, or something else? I ask again, in total, however you want to answer the question: "What do you think about Iran?" Again, I would wager that if 100 random people were polled, the vast majority would answer somewhere along the lines of, "Iran? Iran is a terrorist nation!" or "Iran is a serious threat, they are trying to build a nuclear weapon so we have to stop them before they do." or "Iran is a country in the Middle East who has a crazy dictator as leader, Ahmadinejad, who denies the Holocaust ever happened, and is a psychopath who we need to kill because he is a terrorist and supports terrorists." In reality, none of those are original thoughts. Of those hypothetical 100 random people, I would also wager that less than five of them would be able to successfully identify Iran on a globe. I would also wager that less than two of them would have ever traveled to Iran, or that they even personally know someone of Iranian descent. I certainly doubt of those 100 random people, more than ten would be able to name a single city or region of Iran. Those random 100 people would in reality, know nothing about Iran. They would have not one single original idea regarding Iran. But yet, these same exact people would somehow hold moderately strong to extremely strong opinions about Iran. How? How is it that someone can have a thought that is entirely foreign to their mind, an idea that was "injected" into their conscious/subconscious, but has remained there, and has been accepted as truth, and without being questioned by that individual, has somehow become accepted as an original thought? Please consider what I have written, and I thank you for reading, I know this is more lengthy than many threads you may be accustomed to here on GLP. I invite you to share your thoughts, after having read mine. Thank you, I genuinely look forward to reading what you have to say! 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User ID: 36448521 Chile 03/18/2013 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was also going to point that out. Anyway, I totally get OP's point of view and share it whole heartedly. I think that the real matrix we live in is worst than the metaphorical one in the movie, because in the real one it takes a long process to get out, not a flick of a switch. And the others in the MAtrix will fight tooth and nail to keep you inside. The real matrix is built in on our heads through education, media manipulation, and social / peer pressure, fashion, religion, etc. Breaking free from it, specially for totally unaware people, is a traumatic process. I had the advantage that I never bought it, and I always sensed something was very off, but even with that, it's a painfull process. But totally worth it. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18622835 United States 03/18/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get this. Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword. Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures. But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get. It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next. You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right? And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion. Sorry, but no can do. |
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The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO now you're a Zionist OP? That's cool. They plan to rule the world anyway with a one world religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33466882 Where do you get that I am a Zionist? I am absolutely opposed to any war-mongering, slavery-inducing paradigm, and that includes the Zionists, as well as the U.N., Iluminati/NWO, Bilderbergs, Vatican, current U.S. Federal Government, among others. I am absolutely against any one-world religion, and I dislike "religion" as well. But, that is not what this thread is about. Your attempt to derail this thread has failed. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ruling families in ancient South America, Mexico, Egypt, and the orient were flying hundreds of years ago, and thousands of years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782 Neither Gustav or the Wright brothers discovered anything new. O.K., I can accept that. But, Gustav Whitehead vs The Wright Brothers is NOT the main argument of this thread! It is merely an example to easily explain how our entire reality is shaped by those who are in power. Never is their "shaping" for an honest, pure, loving purpose; always is this manipulation nefarious. Your mind is always being manipulated. It is just a matter of who is doing the manipulating- YOU or someone else. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36146938 United States 03/18/2013 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you ever heard of a man named Gustav Whitehead? Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer If you asked 100 random people on the street, "Who was the first human being to ever fly in an airplane?" how many do you think would give you the correct response? What would your answer be? "The Wright Brothers- Orville and Wilbur Wright were the first humans to ever fly!" Why do you think this to be so? Well, for one, that is what every history book says! And, if you go to the biggest, most important history museum in the United States, The Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., they even have the airplane they created and flew in, The 1903 Wright Flyer on display there! In fact, here is a snippet from The Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum's own website, [link to airandspace.si.edu] "Removed temporarily from its place of honor in Milestones of Flight, the 1903 Wright Flyer, the world's first successful airplane, serves as the centerpiece of this exhibition, which celebrates the centennial of the Wright brothers' historic flights. For the first time, the airplane is being displayed on the floor, so you can get a close-up, eye-level look at the historic craft that ushered in the age of flight. The first part of this exhibition tells the story of how Wilbur and Orville Wright invented the airplane—who they were, how they worked, and what they accomplished. The second part shows how their monumental achievement affected the world in the decade that followed, when people everywhere became fascinated with flight." But, who is Gustav Whitehead, and why is his story SO IMPORTANT? The Wright Brothers were not the first human beings to fly. Someone designed, constructed, and successfully flew in the air a flying machine, before they did. Not days, weeks, or months before the Wright Brothers.... TWO YEARS before the Wright Brothers ever flew, Gustav Whitehead flew in the air in a flying machine. More than 100 different newspapers reported this incredible feat, newspapers from across the United States, Hawaii, to as far away as Australie, Germany, and France, Gustav Whitehead was reported as having flown in the air in a flying machine he built. In the year 1901. Please, do not take my word for it. Do not *ever* trust the words of anyone, without independently verifying the information as true for yourself. Here is but one source which backs up the claims I write in the above paragraph: [link to www.ctpost.com] Please, investigate this yourself, and draw your own conclusions. But, why is Gustav Whitehead not rightfully credited with the accomplishment? Why has the true history not been reported? Do you think this is an isolated incident? Do you think this is truly the only case of "revisionist history" in the world? Why do so many human beings, perhaps even you, believe Wilbur and Orville Wright were the first humans to fly, when there is absolute evidence that a man named Gustav Whitehead flew two years prior, in 1901 in Connecticut? Is it because The Smithsonian Institute says it to be true? Because The Smithsonian claims authority over historical fact, whatever The Smithsonian says is true, it *must* be true? Do you accept as truth whatever is reported on the nightly news, the daily newspaper, the news websites that have three letters followed by a .com? I close in asking you this: What do you think about Iran? Now, before answering, you might ask for clarification: What do I mean, "about Iran?" Am I asking about politics, am I asking about the nation's history, or something else? I ask again, in total, however you want to answer the question: "What do you think about Iran?" Again, I would wager that if 100 random people were polled, the vast majority would answer somewhere along the lines of, "Iran? Iran is a terrorist nation!" or "Iran is a serious threat, they are trying to build a nuclear weapon so we have to stop them before they do." or "Iran is a country in the Middle East who has a crazy dictator as leader, Ahmadinejad, who denies the Holocaust ever happened, and is a psychopath who we need to kill because he is a terrorist and supports terrorists." In reality, none of those are original thoughts. Of those hypothetical 100 random people, I would also wager that less than five of them would be able to successfully identify Iran on a globe. I would also wager that less than two of them would have ever traveled to Iran, or that they even personally know someone of Iranian descent. I certainly doubt of those 100 random people, more than ten would be able to name a single city or region of Iran. Those random 100 people would in reality, know nothing about Iran. They would have not one single original idea regarding Iran. But yet, these same exact people would somehow hold moderately strong to extremely strong opinions about Iran. How? How is it that someone can have a thought that is entirely foreign to their mind, an idea that was "injected" into their conscious/subconscious, but has remained there, and has been accepted as truth, and without being questioned by that individual, has somehow become accepted as an original thought? Please consider what I have written, and I thank you for reading, I know this is more lengthy than many threads you may be accustomed to here on GLP. I invite you to share your thoughts, after having read mine. Thank you, I genuinely look forward to reading what you have to say! I bet you have never heard of John J Montgomery either have you? The Wright brothers literally stole HIS designs..... |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its not only applyable to historical discoveries or political situations its applicable to anything. people just believe everything that is written. maybe even the most things we take for granted AREN'T TRUE. LIKE the shape of the Earth, or the effects of certain medicine. Or the way the TV works. quantum physics is involved in that Quoting: rezo 36450511 Yes! Agreed, now the next logical question to ask is: Why has "history" been improperly recorded? Along with that, more avenues of critical thinking appear- WHO has been manipulating history? WHY have certain facts been altered, erased, omitted? Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword. Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures. But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get. It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next. You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right? And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion. Sorry, but no can do. I do not know if I would necessarily attach the moniker of 'Pacifict' to myself. I am however, against the wars and aggression currently being waged by the U.S. government, absolutely. I am 100% against the United Nations, in theory and in practice. Nowhere did I mention Israel, and I wonder why you and another paid shill happened to bring up Israel in this thread. Answer: Because within the thread I encourage readers to think critically, logically, reasonably, and rationally about war and Iran, specifically the overt injection of the "War with Iran" meme that the captured mainstream media in the U.S. has been repeating for at least ten years now. So, since your employers' agenda, as paid shills, is to promote the war/death/debt paradigm and the idea that "U.S. govt is authority and is good," then you show up and attempt to derail. No chance. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet you have never heard of John J Montgomery either have you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36146938 The Wright brothers literally stole HIS designs..... Thank you for sharing this information, and no, I have never heard of that man. But, you bring up an excellent point, as does another individual in a separate post, that there are even more people who can lay claim to having flown first/invented the first flying machine. Which only aids the main tenet of this discussion: History and what nearly everyone accepts as "fact" is NOT fact. Your perception of reality is SO manipulated, that simple "facts" you have believed your entire life, and 99% of the world's population would tell you are ABSOLUTELY, IRREFUTABLY TRUE FACTS....are actually false. So, even if only a couple people out of thousands agreed with you, and knew the REAL TRUTH...would you stand in truth alone or nearly alone?...or would you allow yourself to be defeated and join the great majority? Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Break free from the scripted reality you and everyone else in the world has been conditioned to see! Be brave, and bold, and think critically! Remove your emotions from your intellect, and think in a rational, reasonable, and logical manner! It is my wholehearted belief that the average American is so burdened in mind and spirit by having accepted defeat and slipped into this false, manipulated reality, that so many Americans smoke, drink to excess, abuse drugs, take multiple prescription pharmaceuticals, watch 6+ hours of television programming every day, do not read, do not exercise, eat junk food, eat fast food, overeat, etc. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
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tuesday451 User ID: 24989682 United States 03/18/2013 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The money we slave for is a talisman that has worked perfectly for the puppet masters. Quoting: Amy_A Can you elaborate on that? I'm fond to the idea that a persons intent on any said object provides a sort of 'ethereal' power to it. This is because there is a global conscious level of acceptance that such an item would and does have 'power' therefor providing 'energy' to said talisman. Now, I always assumed that the (1 dollar bill especially, but the majority) idea of 'paper currency' is just one of many mechanisms to take away the personal power / energy (consciousness) from mass casualties. I've since been acclimated to the world out there and haven't had time to think about such things, but what does the consequence of credit cards and "cashless" societies do for these organizations? If we are to assume the controlled the previous market are we then to presume they currently are advocating and contriving the new "cashless" society? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36146938 United States 03/18/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet you have never heard of John J Montgomery either have you? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36146938 The Wright brothers literally stole HIS designs..... Thank you for sharing this information, and no, I have never heard of that man. But, you bring up an excellent point, as does another individual in a separate post, that there are even more people who can lay claim to having flown first/invented the first flying machine. Which only aids the main tenet of this discussion: History and what nearly everyone accepts as "fact" is NOT fact. Your perception of reality is SO manipulated, that simple "facts" you have believed your entire life, and 99% of the world's population would tell you are ABSOLUTELY, IRREFUTABLY TRUE FACTS....are actually false. So, even if only a couple people out of thousands agreed with you, and knew the REAL TRUTH...would you stand in truth alone or nearly alone?...or would you allow yourself to be defeated and join the great majority? His was quite and interesting life........if you are so inclined. [link to earlyaviators.com] His "heavier than air" planes flew years before the Wright Brothers. |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The money we slave for is a talisman that has worked perfectly for the puppet masters. Quoting: Amy_A Can you elaborate on that? I'm fond to the idea that a persons intent on any said object provides a sort of 'ethereal' power to it. This is because there is a global conscious level of acceptance that such an item would and does have 'power' therefor providing 'energy' to said talisman. Now, I always assumed that the (1 dollar bill especially, but the majority) idea of 'paper currency' is just one of many mechanisms to take away the personal power / energy (consciousness) from mass casualties. I've since been acclimated to the world out there and haven't had time to think about such things, but what does the consequence of credit cards and "cashless" societies do for these organizations? If we are to assume the controlled the previous market are we then to presume they currently are advocating and contriving the new "cashless" society? Hmm. Excellent point. Please go to this IRS.gov website, which is titled "Where's my refund?" It is an online page for taxpayers to check the status of their tax refund. [link to www.irs.gov] NOTICE: the image in the upper right banner. It is an image of a 20-something, brunette female counting Federal Reserve Notes (commonly referred to as 'money.') Notice- how much money is she visibly holding? Three single dollar bills. The $1 is prominently placed in an easy to recognize location. On one of the most popular IRS tax return webpages. Do you think that might, just possibly be an example of scripting/conditioning to be happy and content with a very trivial amount of tax "return?" Notice the smile and look of joy on the woman's face, and the bright, sunny background. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5999116 United Kingdom 03/18/2013 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword. Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures. But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get. It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next. You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right? And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion. Sorry, but no can do. How do you know all this? Have you ever been to Iran? You seem to have some strong opinions on Iran how did you come up with these? My guess is you've formulated your opinions based on what you've seen in the media. And thats this guys point. |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword. Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures. But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get. It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next. You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right? And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion. Sorry, but no can do. How do you know all this? Have you ever been to Iran? You seem to have some strong opinions on Iran how did you come up with these? My guess is you've formulated your opinions based on what you've seen in the media. And thats this guys point. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 815535 United States 03/18/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not a Christ-tard, or Bible-tard, but Ecclesiates said it all; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36434165 All is vanity, sayeth the Preacher, and there is nothing new under the Sun. Kinda paraphrased it there, but that's the gist. Gnomesayin'? I am not sure I am making the connection you intend for me to see. Would you please elaborate? What I think you mean, is that people's minds have been manipulated by external forces (other individuals, groups, etc.) since man first began to think. Maybe cause the Wright Brothers sounds more commercialized than Gustav? |
sTTsTTT
User ID: 4852102 United States 03/18/2013 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Sonic Dreamer. Perhaps it is as simple as invested Pedagogy. By your tag line, you are a classicly trained musician within a specific Pedagogy, no? Training under a mentor/teacher who has invested a lifetime in studies, practicuum and system; passing this knowledge and wisdom on to you. Is this the only way to learn an instrument? Is this the best way to read the notation? Is this the proper interpretation of the composers' scores? Is this the...??? Perhaps this is why we seldom question or analyse. We're bound by Pedagogy. Apocalypse: All shall be revealed. And all shall be revealed. ******* All Human Beings are Human. Not all Humans are Human Beings. ******* |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not a Christ-tard, or Bible-tard, but Ecclesiates said it all; Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36434165 All is vanity, sayeth the Preacher, and there is nothing new under the Sun. Kinda paraphrased it there, but that's the gist. Gnomesayin'? I am not sure I am making the connection you intend for me to see. Would you please elaborate? What I think you mean, is that people's minds have been manipulated by external forces (other individuals, groups, etc.) since man first began to think. Maybe cause the Wright Brothers sounds more commercialized than Gustav? Well, yes. In this particular instance, the reason why The Smithsonian decided to "write" history as The Wright Brothers being the first to fly is certainly commercial. 1. Gustav Whitehead was an immigrant from Germany, whereas the Wright Brothers were natural-born Americans. 2. The family of the Wright Brothers donated their original flying machine, The Wright Flyer to The Smithsonian, as well as many other valuable, historical documents and items. The family threatened to reclaim all of the items from the museum if the museum ever promoted anyone but the Wright Brothers as the first to fly. Bottom line: As it invariably is- money is the reason. However, money is NOT always the ONLY reason why history is manipulated. CONTROL is the over-arching reason. CONTROL. Control of you. Control of your mind. Control of your thoughts. Control of your emotions. Control of your actions. Does this not enrage you? Well, it should! Righteous anger will be the result when the masses finally are awakened to the matrix they have been enslaved into. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18622835 United States 03/18/2013 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835 Gustav Whitehead (and he SHOULD be known) is a TAD different than the head of a country who has declared war on Jews (but who cares, right?) and the whole west. Who wants to spread Islam per the scriptures----by the Sword. Who is awaiting the arrival of the Mahdi----------Islamic Messiah--------who will then start a world war and have all non-believers forcibly converted to Islam. Those that refuse will be killed. Read their scriptures. But of course, if they attack Israel, who cares, right? Zionist Jewish scum that deserve everything they get. It does not matter that they could (and almost certainly would) go after US next. You are a pacifist, right? UN takes care of everything and we are the world afterwards under a socialist world government, right? And yes, Israel is guilty of a lot of things. Of course. But I'd rather take my chances with the "Zionists" than with Islamists trying to take over the world over their beliefs and religion. Sorry, but no can do. I do not know if I would necessarily attach the moniker of 'Pacifict' to myself. I am however, against the wars and aggression currently being waged by the U.S. government, absolutely. I am 100% against the United Nations, in theory and in practice. Nowhere did I mention Israel, and I wonder why you and another paid shill happened to bring up Israel in this thread. Answer: Because within the thread I encourage readers to think critically, logically, reasonably, and rationally about war and Iran, specifically the overt injection of the "War with Iran" meme that the captured mainstream media in the U.S. has been repeating for at least ten years now. So, since your employers' agenda, as paid shills, is to promote the war/death/debt paradigm and the idea that "U.S. govt is authority and is good," then you show up and attempt to derail. No chance. You are totally wrong that I am a shill. Just an ordinary guy who does not like Iran (and leans pro-Israel, admittedly.) Usually the anti-Iran people here are usually also anti-Israel and "anti-zionist." Sorry, but Zionism DEALS with Israel. You should know that. Again, YOU ARE WRONG. |
The Sonic Dreamer
(OP) User ID: 19453308 United States 03/18/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Sonic Dreamer. Perhaps it is as simple as invested Pedagogy. Quoting: sTTsTTT By your tag line, you are a classicly trained musician within a specific Pedagogy, no? Training under a mentor/teacher who has invested a lifetime in studies, practicuum and system; passing this knowledge and wisdom on to you. Is this the only way to learn an instrument? Is this the best way to read the notation? Is this the proper interpretation of the composers' scores? Is this the...??? Perhaps this is why we seldom question or analyse. We're bound by Pedagogy. Thank you for this line of thinking, I appreciate your insight, sTTsTTT! However, I think the pedagogy is purposefully indoctrinated with the "appeal to authority." In other words, I believe the master manipulators behind the scenes, "The Powers That Be" if you will, have used various nefarious tricks such as NeuroLinguistic Programming (NLP), claims of authority, etc. to promote the idea that certain individuals are experts and therefore authorities in a given subject, and their opinions are NOT to be questioned or challenged. And, sadly, the vast majority have been tricked/manipulated/coerced into thinking in this way. The truly evil genius of their manipulation is that not only does an individual who has been indoctrinated and fully engrossed into the matrix believe as "gospel truth" everything he is told....He will violently defend these foreign, implanted ideas as his own! Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |