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BE ALERT FOR THE SIGNS - All 3 of my dogs have a "virus" signs to observe - vet has no clue other than Hemorrhagic Gastroenteritis UPDATE

 
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I just spent the last 3 days at the vet with my Miniature Dachshund. I had every test run for parasites, from A to Z, X-rays to rule out obstruction and 2 days at the vet clinic with constant observation and IV fluids.

My dog had blood in her runny stools, and was vomiting a white foamy puke and was drooling.

Every test imaginable has been done on her and it has now been concluded that she has a virus $1500.00 later....

This is also confirmed because now my other 2 dogs are now displaying the same symptoms.

I live in a very secluded area and my dogs only go out in a fenced in area to play and walk. I have tried to keep them separated as much as possible, but apparently this virus is highly contagious.

My dogs are always up to date on their shots and have had their heart worm medications on a regular basis.

I cook for my dogs, so there is no chance of them being sick from the dog food.

AGAIN - signs to look for
1. Drooling and foamy vomit
2. Diarrhea and runny stools
3. Blood in stools
4. Lethargic

My Dachshund is feeling some better today, but the other 2 dogs are now starting with the same symptoms.
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Sounds like parvovirus
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Yep exactly like Parvo. And obviously your vet would have checked for this, right? Well if not, just start treating for it.

My puppy got this a few months ago. We got an i.v. bag of ffluid from the vet that we administered ourselved under her skin every 12 hours, plus I used a turkey baster to keep fluids in her every half hour to an hour, plus I went out and bought some pepto bismol and gave her a half teaspoon every hour for 2-3 days, and boy, I actually think the pepto was what made the biggest difference.
She improved quickly with that medicine. It coats their stomach and helps them heal faster. Try it, it won't hurt your dog anyway, even if it's not parvo.
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I just spent the last 3 days at the vet with my Miniature Dachshund. I had every test run for parasites, from A to Z, X-rays to rule out obstruction and 2 days at the vet clinic with constant observation and IV fluids.

My dog had blood in her runny stools, and was vomiting a white foamy puke and was drooling.

Every test imaginable has been done on her and it has now been concluded that she has a virus $1500.00 later....

This is also confirmed because now my other 2 dogs are now displaying the same symptoms.

I live in a very secluded area and my dogs only go out in a fenced in area to play and walk. I have tried to keep them separated as much as possible, but apparently this virus is highly contagious.

My dogs are always up to date on their shots and have had their heart worm medications on a regular basis.

I cook for my dogs, so there is no chance of them being sick from the dog food.

AGAIN - signs to look for
1. Drooling and foamy vomit
2. Diarrhea and runny stools
3. Blood in stools
4. Lethargic

My Dachshund is feeling some better today, but the other 2 dogs are now starting with the same symptoms.
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sounds live parvo
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Some foods we eat are poison to dogs...
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^^ this
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Dogs (and humans unbelievably) can actually be(come) allergic to chicken, one of mine is affected by it. Wouldn't think though all three would suddenly become allergic, unless maybe they are all related but still hard to believe, but maybe not impossible. Did they have ALOT of chicken prior?
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Sounds totally like Parvovirus. I suggest you watch this vid (www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWs2lg8a7YE) by veterinary Sam Meisler and then read the Wikipedia article [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Parvo is totally contagious, too, so it's absolutely no wonder that all 3 dogs have it. Contrary to the canine distemper virus, btw, which is unstable ssRNA, parvo is ssDNA and thus can easily persist ("survive") for a long time outside of host animals. So parvo is almost everywhere in bustling towns and cities.
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Parvo. Thats what it is.

No Shots...?

Parvo strickens young dogs and puppies.

Vacinate your dogs.
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zeta & nancy were right again

KILL YOUR DOGS

before they kill YOU!

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There is a very simple test for parvo. Your vet is an Idiot if he can't figure that out.
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Parvo. Thats what it is.

No Shots...?

Parvo strickens young dogs and puppies.

Vacinate your dogs.
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I have already stated several times in this thread that all of my dogs are up to date on their shots.

It is NOT parvo.

Thanks for your concern though.
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My dog was at the emergency clinic and now also under the supervision of my local vet. She has had every possible test imaginable. Now my other dogs are also being seen.
Ignorance is bliss until reality bites you in the ass.

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It sounds like Corona Virus, which has similar symptoms to Parvo Virus.

The other thing that I was thinking is that maybe they walked through an antifreeze spill in the garage or driveway then licked their paws. That causes some of the same symptoms.

I hope they get better soon!

hf
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If you're convinced it's a virus... perhaps something (via rogue signal/frequency/environmental assault) is activating some junk DNA. Something to think about.
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I just spent the last 3 days at the vet with my Miniature Dachshund. I had every test run for parasites, from A to Z, X-rays to rule out obstruction and 2 days at the vet clinic with constant observation and IV fluids.

My dog had blood in her runny stools, and was vomiting a white foamy puke and was drooling.

Every test imaginable has been done on her and it has now been concluded that she has a virus $1500.00 later....

This is also confirmed because now my other 2 dogs are now displaying the same symptoms.

I live in a very secluded area and my dogs only go out in a fenced in area to play and walk. I have tried to keep them separated as much as possible, but apparently this virus is highly contagious.

My dogs are always up to date on their shots and have had their heart worm medications on a regular basis.

I cook for my dogs, so there is no chance of them being sick from the dog food.

AGAIN - signs to look for
1. Drooling and foamy vomit
2. Diarrhea and runny stools
3. Blood in stools
4. Lethargic

My Dachshund is feeling some better today, but the other 2 dogs are now starting with the same symptoms.
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Maybe Parvovirus... [link to en.wikipedia.org]
I pray for you and your dogs for not having this disease.

My sister's little doggy died last October from that...My God...It was such a nightmare, 2 weeks and nothing more to do...Since then, we call it Dummyvirus because parvo stands for dummy/stupid in portuguese.
hf
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OP, do you live in Texas, or near Galveston National Laboratory on UTMB's campus?
This was up yesterday, when I saw your headline I instantly recalled it.


Virus goes missing at UTMB lab
Thread: Virus goes missing at UTMB lab

"A vial containing a potentially harmful virus has gone missing from a laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch, officials said."
[link to www.chron.com]


"The vial does not appear to have been stolen. Officials suspect that the virus was likely destroyed during the normal laboratory decontamination and cleaning process, but the investigation is ongoing."

From a post in the above thread:
"Guanarito is native only to Venezuela and can cause hemorrhagic fever. The virus is not known to be transmitted person-to-person and poses no public health risk, according to officials. In the limited area of Venezuela where the virus is found, it is transmitted only by rodents native to the area and is not believe to be capable of surviving naturally in rodents in the United States."

Did your dogs come into any contact with outside rats, or any type of animals?


Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever

how nice. Ebola basically.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

and weaponized, and just went missing in TX. coincidence, as roaches or rats stole it maybe.
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"Based on their antigenic properties, arenaviruses have been classified into two major groups: the Old World arena viruses, and the New World arenaviruses. Old World arena viruses include lymphocytic choriomeningitis virus, and Lassa virus. New world arena viruses are further broken down into three clades, A, B, and C. The Guanarito arena virus belongs to clade B and is the cause of VHF. On the biosafety level scale of one to four, with four causing the most risk, the viruses causing hemorrhagic fevers have been assigned a four by the CDC."

fun.
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The virus:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

History

From September 1989 through December 2006, the State of Portuguesa recorded 618 cases of VHF. Nearly all of the cases were individuals who worked or lived in Guanarito during the time they became infected. The case fatality rate was 23.1%.[3]

Presentation

VHF has many similarities to Lassa fever and to the arenavirus hemorrhagic fevers that occur in Argentina and Bolivia.[5] It causes fever and malaise followed by hemorrhagic manifestations and convulsions.[7] Some presentations of the virus are also characterized by vascular damage, bleeding diathesis, fever, and multiple organ involvement. Clinical diagnosis of VHF has proven to be difficult based on the nonspecific symptoms.[4] The disease is fatal in 30% of cases and is endemic to Portuguesa state and Barinas state in Venezuela.

Treatment and prevention for the VHF virus are limited and there are currently no licensed vaccines available that can act to prevent the disease [4] . However, once infected, Ribavirin, an anti-viral drug given intravenously, is one way to treat VHF.
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It's not poison ... YES, it's a VIRUS. I have three Schnauzers. The runt and weakest of them contracted HG and yep, exhibited all the symptoms you mention. She nearly DIED from it. She had to be at the animal hospital for 48 hours on meds, IV and fluids.
Her brother also contracted it at the same time, but was stronger, so only had to be on meds and IV for 12 hours. The third and strongest one was invulnerable and never caught anything.

It's a damned bloody virus, the worst of them all. The dogs are in pure suffering. It's awful.
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INFLUENZA, CANINE - USA (NEW HAMPSHIRE)
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A ProMED-mail post
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ProMED-mail is a program of the
International Society for Infectious Diseases
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Date: 24 Mar 2013
Source: New Hampshire Union Leader [edited]
[link to www.newhampshire.com]


Dog flu outbreak expected in NH

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Outbreaks of canine flu in other states have prompted some veterinarians to encourage New Hampshire pet owners to consider a flu vaccine for their dogs. If you're a pet owner, you may want to consider a flu shot for another member of the family: your dog.

Canine influenza outbreaks have been reported in Vermont and Massachusetts. And Dr. David Stowe, president of the New Hampshire Veterinary Medical Association, predicts it's "only a matter of time" before an outbreak happens here.

The danger is that dogs here have no immunity to the new H3N8 virus, according to veterinarians. And that's why some are recommending flu shots for animals that go to day care, boarding, grooming, dog parks and other locations where dogs congregate.

"Dogs have never had influenza before," explained Stowe, a veterinarian with VCA Lakes.. [link to www.promedmail.org]
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If you're convinced it's a virus... perhaps something (via rogue signal/frequency/environmental assault) is activating some junk DNA. Something to think about.
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I am honestly not convinced of it being a virus but don't know what else it could be.

The vet is just giving it that label because he/she doesn't know either.
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Go to mountain rose herbs dot com and click on products
then in the home/garden/gifts section click on pet supplies.

Some good products there my friend.
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Re: BE ALERT FOR THE SIGNS - All 3 of my dogs have a "virus" signs to observe - vet has no clue other than Hemorrhagic Gastroenteritis UPDATE
antibiotics dont kill virus but colloidal silver does.
I would research hemorrhagic gastroenteritis and colloidal silver. The higher level virus that CS doesnt kill, colloidal gold probably will...

and cs is cheaper than antibiotics
it kills more than antibiotics - bacteria, virus, fungus, microbials
and you can make it yourself

but most vets turn their nose up at it
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Most doctors do too, unfortunately.
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My daddy-in-law's 5 year old Pyrenees died suddenly of stomach cancer, two months after Fukushima.
An outside dog, large and fat and healthy.. he drank water from
a tank that collected rain water.
He also was fed a lot of raw deer scraps, bones.
He quit eating and died within a week.
The vet asked to do an autopsy because he thought it was extremely unusual for such a young and healthy animal.
I'm telling this not to alarm but to inform.

An inside dog, such as yours, should not have been affected.
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Look up lugols iodine for dogs. I take it daily in water and it has been shown to help cure parvovirus in dogs. Kills the bad stuff in the body like parasites and destructive bacteria. I think it would help.
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Re: BE ALERT FOR THE SIGNS - All 3 of my dogs have a "virus" signs to observe - vet has no clue other than Hemorrhagic Gastroenteritis UPDATE
Hi OP, not sure if you want to give this a try.

I drink ceylon cinnamon tea everyday. It kills e coli,
antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, etc. Google for all the
benefits.

I give my dogs every meal:
Boil for a minute: 1/4 cup of water, shaving of 1/2 carrot, sprinkle ceylon cinnamon. Cool and mixed with their food.

Do not overuse on the Ceylon cinnamon. I use less then
1/16 teaspoon for my 12 lb dog.

Do not use regular cinnamon from store. Use only organic
Ceylon Cinnamon (I use Indus Organics). This might help
your dog to get better.
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Op be careful I have gotten a flu virus before from my dog and it mutated a doctor will deny this but a vet wont my husband had the flu my dog got it 2 weeks later then i got it a week after the dog and it was much stronger I was very bad off
so be careful with your family viruses can mutate thru animals and be much stronger
KITKAT123
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Nice....regarding prior poster on dog flu, Merck is promoting the Dog Flu and its developed vaccine. They even have a nifty cartoon on their TM website doginfluenza . com BUT... The symptoms aren't similar to OP's dogs. Have a better day, OP, and I'll debrief you on any info from my vet.
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Thanks everyone for the advice.

Much appreciated!

I will post any progress.

Hopefully I won't have to post any bad news.

verysad

Last Edited by Watching the dead on 03/25/2013 08:24 AM
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Same thing happened to one of our dogs a couple of months ago. It started with the foamy vomit and quickly moved to bloody stools and bloody vomit.

1900 dollars bought us several tests and x rays that gave us no answer. Parvo test was negative. We were referred to a doggy internal specialist.

We gave our dog apple cider vinegar, yogurt and two different antibiotics. It finally cleared up a week later but no one had any answer as to the cause.

Our dogs like yours are watched constantly when outside and hadn't been outside the yard or around any other animals.

I hope your dogs get better soon.
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I live in okc.
My gsd got the same thing. "a virus" foaming, vomit, runs.
My neighbors 4 pitbulls also had it the same week.
My dog lived, 3 of hers died. None of these dogs were pos for parvo and all were over 1 year old. I thought my dog was poisoned...shes the aggresive dog of the hood. I slept in her dog house the last night she was sick the next morn we played fetch!!!!
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What brand of dog food were you using?

Because some Purina brands, Beneful being one, are killing pets right now with similar symptoms to what you're describing...

This also may be effecting some of their horse feeds, though that is just anecdotal evidence right now...

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I just spent the last 3 days at the vet with my Miniature Dachshund. I had every test run for parasites, from A to Z, X-rays to rule out obstruction and 2 days at the vet clinic with constant observation and IV fluids.

My dog had blood in her runny stools, and was vomiting a white foamy puke and was drooling.

Every test imaginable has been done on her and it has now been concluded that she has a virus $1500.00 later....

This is also confirmed because now my other 2 dogs are now displaying the same symptoms.

I live in a very secluded area and my dogs only go out in a fenced in a


rea to play and walk. I have tried to keep them separated as much as possible, but apparently this virus is highly contagious.

My dogs are always up to date on their shots and have had their heart worm medications on a regular basis.

I cook for my dogs, so there is no chance of them being sick from the dog food.

AGAIN - signs to look for
1. Drooling and foamy vomit
2. Diarrhea and runny stools
3. Blood in stools
4. Lethargic

My Dachshund is feeling some better today, but the other 2 dogs are now starting with the same symptoms.
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Rodent poison now contains anticoagulant. It causes internal bleeding and slow death. They give them a coagulant shot with potassium to counteract the poison.

Does sound like this may be your culprit.
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I was also wondering if maybe somehow someone may have thrown something over the fence - however I have searched and searched the area and have found nothing. My other 2 dogs are very picky and do not eat just anything. I have gone out with them every time they go outside.
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A neighbor put anti-freeze in meat and placed it outside, my brother's 2 dogs ate it. The older one died, the younger one was fed IV for over a month and survived. Symptomology sounds similar. You can never tell what a neighbor will do. Best of luck.
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Any suspicious neighbors OP? You know, those that don't like dogs (certain cultures), complain about the barking, etc.

You wouldn't be the first person to have a dog poisoned by a neighbor.

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