Why the North Korean missile launch is different this time and some history of North Korea.

You forgot to mention that NK has being working with Iran since 1994 on nukes .

I disagree .. They do have the capabilities ..

oh come on stop over him...

what he says is nothing new on glp....just another copy/paste of what is being said for weeks on glp with the dozen NK threads...nothing to wank on the way you and others do...

give us a rest.

No-one knows for CERTAIN the true capabilities of the Norh Koreans. After all this is 2013...

I don't think Kimberley will start a war or invade anybody, because then his goal of reunification will be virtually impossible. The South won't accept such a madman ruling over them.

But he could start a war accidentally with all his blustering.

This is the Father of the current South Korean President:

Park Chung-hee (Korean: [paktɕ͈ʌŋhi] 14 November 1917 – 26 October 1979) was a Korean general and statesman who ruled South Korea from 1961 until his assassination in 1979.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The current president is not much unlike her father.

madman ? you talk about the guy that arm his people against westerners ?

there's another guy in the US of A doing his best to disarm them all..

who's the madman.

Last Edited by Zeff on 04/13/2013 02:34 AM

Fuck you.

First of all North Korea doesn't have "Nukes" in the sense that they have warheads that can actually deploy on a missile and actually get them somewhere. I don't give a shit what the inteltards are fear mongering about, they just aren't that far along yet.

I also seriously doubt that their first "test" was an actualy nuke...it's more likely IMO that they piled a thousand tons or so of high explosive into a hole in the ground and called it a "Nuke"...now their second test, that's more of a coin toss, possibly a low yeild nuke, also very possible it was just a shitload of high explosives. The third test?...that IMO was an atomic bomb...there is much more evidence that points to that...I also, contrary to the statements that were put out, believe that was more likely than not a Uranium Bomb of the "Hiroshima bomb" type.

Crude and simple to make and fool proof...as long as you have the Highly enriched Uranium...which North Korea magically revealed the ability to do during a trip by US officials a couple years prior.

[link to www.armscontrol.org]

So if they have functioning "Nukes", they are pretty crude low yeild "devices" and not any sort of "Warhead" along the lines of the Nuclear club of countries have...

Still though...they are "Atomic frikkin bombs"...and inside a ship or a truck?...they make the bright flash and melt people, spew toxic radioactive poisons and all that good shit.

That would certainly explain why she doesn't trust the North Koreans a whole lot...

^ this ^

there's a scale showing the size of nukes.

figured i would add it, since you mentioned the hiroshima bomb in relation to newer nukes, in power/size etc



Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 04/13/2013 02:40 AM

Is it possible to filter these NK-threads from my profile options?

Thanks.

Exactly, that is IMO why the Grandchild has to make a big stand against the Daughter. There is truly a family feud going on. Again, IMHO.

Damn!

I suggest you read this to flesh out a better understanding of NK history and relations with Soviet Union and China. It's a long read but even the first few pages are worth it---

[link to books.google.com.mx]

Look...I know that most Americans would probably agree with your comment, because they like their guns.

But you can't just put it down to who is allowed to have guns and who isn't.
I said madman because Kim oppresses his own people, as well as being a mouth on legs. The South don't want that.

Good read.

5 stars.

I've wondered the same thing. Is North Korea really worth a MAD end game? The US, China and Russia aren't going to end the world over a broken country with a petulant childlike despot. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Chemical and radiological suits will become the new standard issue uniform of ROK and US soldiers.

Once again, if you are hoping for a war between China and the US over North Korea, it won't happen.

The US and China would tag team North Korea, and once the regime is gone, a new regime will be put into place to act as a buffer between the South and China. Both sides would have no problem with this.

It is also not just a matter of Yeild/ouput in gross kilo or mega tons, it's the actual size of the "bomb" itself vs how much yeild they have...in general, the smaller and more compact you wish to make your bomb, the more complicated it must be to have the same or near yeild as one that might be far larger and therefore much more difficult to put on a missile, which are also limited in size, if you want to have any sort of deployability to them.

Sure you could build a missile the size of a Saturn V rocket and put a Czar bomb on it...but you need everything that goes along with making and operating a misile the size of a sky scaper...it's also not too easy to hide...you could build a shitty low yeild simple nuke, but even then, it takes a very large rocket to carry it anywhere...

The trick is to get a small enough nuclear bomb with a decent yeild into a missile that can carry it where you want to go and isn't a behemoth...that is not so easy...and North Korea has struggled with getting it's missiles to go anywhere succesfully through their stages...much less where they want them to go.

I will say this though....they do seem to be getting better at it...and if left unchecked...I'm also sure they'd eventually make it to where they could create a viable missile with a nuclear warhead.

Great job

North Korea's nukes are half the size of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Think about that.

Once again, you seem to lack reading comprehension and appear to be stuck on this.

You really believe that China and the US are going to engage and "tag team"...lol...a country that is allied with China and is on the Chinese border?...

You really think China is going to protect North Korea and risk their economic standing and global business ties?

They are now aren't they?...
they dilute or block every sanction that NK has ever had put upon them...

Where's your "tag team" now?

You say North Korea is "not that stupid" and seem to believe that they act rationally, yet you think they will consider it an act of war to have their missile shot down when it flies over Japanese territory.

Uhm no, no rational actor would ever think that shooting down a missile fired over YOUR OWN LAND is an act of war.

Great writeup. 5 Star for sure.
I am curious why you dismiss their ability to mount a nuke on one of their missiles. With most of their "friends" in the world having ICBM's and nukes, it stands to reason that they very well may be years or possibly technical generations ahead of where we estimate them to be - at least publicly. We are just now hearing the DIA estimate which suggests that they very well may be able to mount a warhead on either their new ICBM or some other system where we had heard nothing but denials in the past. It feels a little bit too real. Especially considering how Gen. Dempsey damn near shit himself when he was asked about it on record.
I dunno. Just more to think about I guess. Either way, great work.

Why does no one ever mention the real Supreme Leader of North Korea? Since we're speaking of women and family history and all...

Four star general and sister/advisor of Kim Jong Il, Kim Kyung Hee:

[link to mouonekorea.wordpress.com]

Not this time.

Ignoring threats of retaliation, the United Nations Security Council ordered new economic sanctions against North Korea on Thursday for its third nuclear test last month, unanimously approving a resolution that the United States negotiated with China, the North’s greatest protector.

[link to www.nytimes.com]