Why is there no such thing as a Believer turned ATHEIST? Where you all at? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34991857 Australia 04/14/2013 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I went from a regular church goer to an aetheist when I was a teen. I figured all the crap that was happening to me & all the unanswered prayers - God didn't exist. My eyes were opened 3 years later & I became a believer again. Haven't turned back. Living without fear was too much for ya eh? So you HAD to return to what you knew. because... One thing all christians have in common is 1)FEAR..they fear demons..they fear hell..they fear god..the fear sin..they fear sinning. Their whole lives DWELL on and IN and THROUGH FEAR. Get them together in large groups and the fear FEEDS of itself. 2)WEAKNESS. They NEED to hang around others like themselves so as not to give in to their SELF confessed "WEAKNESSES". Its all about BEING weak. The weaker you are the HOLIER you are. They THRIVE on weakness. They make millions from it. They sell books to "Strenghten" the weak knees. Its all about being utter and total WUSSES. 3)SICKNESS. Its their favourite hobby. You want to see SICK UNHEALED SUFFERING PEOEPLE..go to a church. They CLAMOUR for healing for all their "SICKNESSES"..of the mind..of the body..of the soul..its ALL based around being SICK and WEAK and CONSTANTLY in FEAR. TRY it..go to almost any church for at least three weeks in a row so you can get the gist of what they are on about..what they say and think and do when they are together...what the sermons are always about besides MONEY. TRY it..and see SICKNESS and WEAKNESS and FEAR..in all its glory. I didn't exactly go back to what I knew. Instead of Sunday, I now keep Sabbath on Saturday. Instead of the pagan holidays I was keeping, I now keep the festivals of Lev. 23. I've been miraculously healed a few times. Technically I shouldn't be alive but I am. I've had visions that saved my life a few times over. Didn't have those when I was a Sunday keeper, pagan holiday keeper. But you still FEAR! You wont dare turn back because god will burn you alive forever if you do. FEAR..keeps you grovelling. Its the ONLY reason you do. Its the only reason ALL chriatians do. |
mopar28m
User ID: 14265444 United States 04/14/2013 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you still FEAR! You wont dare turn back because god will burn you alive forever if you do. FEAR..keeps you grovelling. Its the ONLY reason you do. Its the only reason ALL chriatians do. If fear was the reason, I wouldn't have turned back to the faith. The miracles in my life is what solidified that there is a God. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34991857 Australia 04/14/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you still FEAR! You wont dare turn back because god will burn you alive forever if you do. FEAR..keeps you grovelling. Its the ONLY reason you do. Its the only reason ALL chriatians do. If fear was the reason, I wouldn't have turned back to the faith. The miracles in my life is what solidified that there is a God. So you only follow him cause he gave you a lolly or two? With god its either blackmail.."I will burn you aliove forever if you dont grovel and grovel NOW" or BRIBES "Here little one..you having a tough time?..have some lollies..daddy fix your boo boo all better for ya" Meanwhile..millions die..ignored by daddy. Most of whom he does not even bother to blakmail. he just lets em starve or be blown to bits then burns them alive forever without saying a word either way. What a cunt. |
mopar28m
User ID: 14265444 United States 04/14/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you only follow him cause he gave you a lolly or two? With god its either blackmail.."I will burn you aliove forever if you dont grovel and grovel NOW" or BRIBES "Here little one..you having a tough time?..have some lollies..daddy fix your boo boo all better for ya" Meanwhile..millions die..ignored by daddy. Most of whom he does not even bother to blakmail. he just lets em starve or be blown to bits then burns them alive forever without saying a word either way. What a cunt. Looks like at the "c" word. cunt (knt) n. Vulgar Slang 1. The female genital organs. 2. Sexual intercourse with a woman. 3. a. Offensive Used as a disparaging term for a woman. b. Used as a disparaging term for a person one dislikes or finds extremely disagreeable. I'm not disagreeable & you may dislike me, that is YOUR opinion. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 04/14/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Despite your opening words "If Jesus is such a sham?". . .? I've put feelers out to a group of facebook Heretics I consort with, so we'll see what kind of numbers/volume I can provide regarding believers who turned atheist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34991857 Australia 04/14/2013 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you only follow him cause he gave you a lolly or two? With god its either blackmail.."I will burn you aliove forever if you dont grovel and grovel NOW" or BRIBES "Here little one..you having a tough time?..have some lollies..daddy fix your boo boo all better for ya" Meanwhile..millions die..ignored by daddy. Most of whom he does not even bother to blakmail. he just lets em starve or be blown to bits then burns them alive forever without saying a word either way. What a cunt. Looks like at the "c" word. cunt (knt) n. Vulgar Slang 1. The female genital organs. 2. Sexual intercourse with a woman. 3. a. Offensive Used as a disparaging term for a woman. b. Used as a disparaging term for a person one dislikes or finds extremely disagreeable. I'm not disagreeable & you may dislike me, that is YOUR opinion. I wasnt calling you that. I was calling that fake assed blackmailing torture loving hell burning god who is a total liar and an utter failure a cunt. The God who is really just satan in disguise. But you can follow him if you like. It does not make YOU a cunt. Just the follower of one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 04/14/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've put feelers out to a group of facebook Heretics I consort with, so we'll see what kind of numbers/volume I can provide regarding believers who turned atheist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Here's what we've accumulated in a couple hours' time. . . [link to www.patheos.com] [link to www.ex-christian.net] [link to www.clergyproject.org] [link to livingafterfaith.blogspot.com] Best one of the bunch (so far): [link to theparish.typepad.com] For the record, some of the individual responses I've seen from these folks have suggested that there's really no way to get through to you, OP, so I dunno. . . The discussion can be followed here: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 04/14/2013 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, I just remembered the Bible Wheel guy - despite his exquisite work in discovering "intrinsic geometric integration of the sixty-six books amongst themselves and with the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet", he has recently bailed out (though I don't think he'd label himself an "atheist"): [link to www.biblewheel.com] So, I dunno. |
Revo/elation
(OP) User ID: 1278834 United States 04/14/2013 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah but the chriatians will say "They were never really belevers in the first place" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34991857 Absolutely - the split-second anyone even starts to stray from whatever the 12 steps are this week, you're supposed to disown them ;) how do you know if you don't follow Jesus? |
Revo/elation
(OP) User ID: 1278834 United States 04/14/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: mopar28m I went from a regular church goer to an aetheist when I was a teen. I figured all the crap that was happening to me & all the unanswered prayers - God didn't exist. My eyes were opened 3 years later & I became a believer again. Haven't turned back. Living without fear was too much for ya eh? So you HAD to return to what you knew. because... One thing all christians have in common is 1)FEAR..they fear demons..they fear hell..they fear god..the fear sin..they fear sinning. Their whole lives DWELL on and IN and THROUGH FEAR. Get them together in large groups and the fear FEEDS of itself. 2)WEAKNESS. They NEED to hang around others like themselves so as not to give in to their SELF confessed "WEAKNESSES". Its all about BEING weak. The weaker you are the HOLIER you are. They THRIVE on weakness. They make millions from it. They sell books to "Strenghten" the weak knees. Its all about being utter and total WUSSES. 3)SICKNESS. Its their favourite hobby. You want to see SICK UNHEALED SUFFERING PEOEPLE..go to a church. They CLAMOUR for healing for all their "SICKNESSES"..of the mind..of the body..of the soul..its ALL based around being SICK and WEAK and CONSTANTLY in FEAR. TRY it..go to almost any church for at least three weeks in a row so you can get the gist of what they are on about..what they say and think and do when they are together...what the sermons are always about besides MONEY. TRY it..and see SICKNESS and WEAKNESS and FEAR..in all its glory. I didn't exactly go back to what I knew. Instead of Sunday, I now keep Sabbath on Saturday. Instead of the pagan holidays I was keeping, I now keep the festivals of Lev. 23. I've been miraculously healed a few times. Technically I shouldn't be alive but I am. I've had visions that saved my life a few times over. Didn't have those when I was a Sunday keeper, pagan holiday keeper. But you still FEAR! You wont dare turn back because god will burn you alive forever if you do. FEAR..keeps you grovelling. Its the ONLY reason you do. Its the only reason ALL chriatians do. Wrong once again. I don't fear sht Joey. I want to live forever. In heaven. Chillin', eating, drinking, in my own custom home in an awesome kingdom of no sickness or god haters. What are you looking forward to? |
Revo/elation
(OP) User ID: 1278834 United States 04/14/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've put feelers out to a group of facebook Heretics I consort with, so we'll see what kind of numbers/volume I can provide regarding believers who turned atheist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Here's what we've accumulated in a couple hours' time. . . [link to www.patheos.com] [link to www.ex-christian.net] [link to www.clergyproject.org] [link to livingafterfaith.blogspot.com] Best one of the bunch (so far): [link to theparish.typepad.com] For the record, some of the individual responses I've seen from these folks have suggested that there's really no way to get through to you, OP, so I dunno. . . The discussion can be followed here: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Ok, thanks for collecting that. I will check it out. I'm confused though about getting through (?) do you mean because you don't think I will say. "I think I'm going to go ahead and go against God because that guy on GLP made good points that got through to me".? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 04/14/2013 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah but the chriatians will say "They were never really belevers in the first place" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34991857 Absolutely - the split-second anyone even starts to stray from whatever the 12 steps are this week, you're supposed to disown them ;) how do you know if you don't follow Jesus? Who, me? I couldn't live without Him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 04/14/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, thanks for collecting that. I will check it out. I'm confused though about getting through (?) do you mean because you don't think I will say. "I think I'm going to go ahead and go against God because that guy on GLP made good points that got through to me".? Quoting: Revo/elation (The vibe I get is they're convinced that you'll discount their claims of having been real christians before they walked away.) |
Dr. Gucci
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nightvisiongoggles
User ID: 37264481 Philippines 04/15/2013 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wtf? that happens alot.. -.- Quoting: AtsuiPanda MANY people drop religion as a whole like a plaque and turn atheist No, that's when you're just raised in a religion. You're never a believer if you just happened to find yourself going to a temple just because everyone else does. Belief only happens when you start looking for the core of your religion, and this rarely happens these days. Most people equate religion with its adherents, and since people are by nature imperfect in most aspects, abandoning your beliefs just because of people and unreasonable doctrine is a misguided step. Never convert out of convenience; do not abandon your faith just because of bad experiences or what other people say. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29203778 Italy 04/15/2013 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think a believer can turn athiest. actually I dont really believe athiest are athiest. they may be but I cant fathom it. I know this one guy and we talked about it and he seemed for real about it. when you die, thats it, its over he says. he is a friend, I accept that and agree to disaggree. he is a really smart guy (engineer) but inside Im thinking how can you possibly be this stupid? BTW my version of "God" is the source of all mind(s) cant be explained or put in words but as close as you can would be One Mind from which all else originates. |
Bullwinkle User ID: 38075128 United States 04/15/2013 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At fist and for many years I believed the fairy tale. As I studied other information, Christianity did not stand up under close unbiased scrutiny. There is not a single separate entity known a the GOD. Our real spiritual self of each of us is part of the creation entity. |