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why was CRAFT / BLACKWATER personnel at the Boston marathon ? why did they nothing ? THIS is what you should ask ! UPDATED w/ Info

 
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blackwater was more than likely hired to conduct the bombing. After all, that is part of their purpose. They serve no particular country, as a rogue organization.
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We need those photos again, that show them at the scene and then leaving. I've been through so many threads that I have no idea where I saw them. ;o(
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are you talking about the 4chan photos?
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I posted the link to one of the threads (where I saw photos) up above. And someone else posted the 4chan photos.

Still looking for the photo that shows the 2 guys that were against the building...out in the street, looking at the scene....but not the small one, the big photo.
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blackwater was more than likely hired to conduct the bombing. After all, that is part of their purpose. They serve no particular country, as a rogue organization.
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weird unsettled feeling about blackwater, but me thinks possibly this^^^^^
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They are there as experts / consultants. The government hires them to do work like intelligence, security, risk mitigation, etc.

These aren't your average keyboard commandos, they're all former military, vast majority are spec ops. So it's a way for the gov't to keep employing the people they trained but who got tired of being sent to every sh-thole in the world to fight BS fights for no good reasons.

They're hired because they present a more cost effective way of putting the best trained individuals on the ground wherever they're needed. It's cost effective because the gov't doesn't pay their salary 24/7 365, they pay only when they're working. And no pensions, healthcare, risk pay etc.
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Wtf is their function though? They didn't do shit to prevent it or to help after it happened. Pictures show most of them behind the Finish line after the explosions.
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Re: why was CRAFT / BLACKWATER personnel at the Boston marathon ? why did they nothing ? THIS is what you should ask ! UPDATED w/ Info
these are the pics:

[link to i.imgur.com]

[link to i.imgur.com]

[link to i.imgur.com]

more of them:
[link to imgur.com]

[link to i.imgur.com]
those two marked green were standing not far from where the bomb took off _before_ this happened, with the grey haired guy between them

the vid with the one with the geiger counter (?):
[link to www.youtube.com]

they expected something to happen !
else they wouldn´t have been there, with a geiger counter !

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Totally agree... those are the real questions behind the drama. Either they knew about it, or worse, helped plan it. Something is very weird about their presence there.
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de-lusion is the con-fuse-ion for the ploy to be coy..

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this is the thread people should be on
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Totally agree... those are the real questions behind the drama. Either they knew about it, or worse, helped plan it. Something is very weird about their presence there.
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Their presence there isn't weird. What's weird is they did nothing to help as far as I can tell. It seems they were observing, reporting and then left.



Edit:

1) The 2 ops guys standing against the building by the finish line, just before the explosive went off. (Scroll down to second photo)
[link to i.imgur.com]



2) These are the guys, that were standing against a building just down from the Finish line, not far from where the explosive went off. Then, in this photo, you can see they walk straight out into the steet to observe the chaos. Interesting how strategically placed they were for the first explosive.
[link to i.imgur.com]


3) After they report it, here's a photo of them behind the finish line, probably headed for the black SUV with the dish on top that left the scene in a later photo.

[link to i.imgur.com]

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/19/2013 12:37 PM
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Re: why was CRAFT / BLACKWATER personnel at the Boston marathon ? why did they nothing ? THIS is what you should ask ! UPDATED w/ Info
..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
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Cuz they did it and setup some patsies.
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OMG...now they're reporting the boy became a naturalized citizen on 9/11/12....9/11....RIGHT!!!! How ridiculous is this BS!!!
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Was also wondering. Why carry such a large bag for a securing mission or a drill?
Wouldn't they be carrying guns instead or demining equipment?

And I mean IF they were there for a drill...

What was their mission according to you guys? And does the outfit/gear fits the mission?

Peace
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Check out the pictures of them.... On AJones webpage.
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Go to CBS news, and look at picture number 32. At the lower left of the screen (behind the guy with the blue jacket) are three more people wearing the Craft International signature uniforms: dark jackets, khaki pants, camo combat boots. Running away from the blast. One appears to be a woman.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Someone should compile all these information in a file so that all the incoherences can be presented all at once and not bits by bits.
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Blackwater was obviously involved.

Just another false flag. Business as usual.
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i'll add my 2 cents then scram, but are there as many hi def pictures of other spots along the raceway as there was here? I understand people will be taking pictures, and would want to send them in, but damn, there are a lot of pictures of the right place, the right time, and of the right people. Not to mention photos of specops and where they were as well as what they were doing.

all these pics for us to figure it out like it was supposed to be seen.
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EXACTLY.

Who the heck is taking all these aerial photos - out of what windows? And why are they taking multiple pictures of the crowd, of police and other things that have nothing to do with the race??

All these pics, just to keep us chasing our tail in circles.
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Because they failed and now they'll loose contracts.
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Totally agree... those are the real questions behind the drama. Either they knew about it, or worse, helped plan it. Something is very weird about their presence there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36605031





Their presence there isn't weird. What's weird is they did nothing to help as far as I can tell. It seems they were observing, reporting and then left.



Edit:

1) The 2 ops guys standing against the building by the finish line, just before the explosive went off. (Scroll down to second photo)
[link to i.imgur.com]



2) These are the guys, that were standing against a building just down from the Finish line, not far from where the explosive went off. Then, in this photo, you can see they walk straight out into the steet to observe the chaos. Interesting how strategically placed they were for the first explosive.
[link to i.imgur.com]


3) After they report it, here's a photo of them behind the finish line, probably headed for the black SUV with the dish on top that left the scene in a later photo.

[link to i.imgur.com]
 Quoting: U3


Lower left, three people dressed like Craft International, running away from the blast.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

Picture number 32.
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blackwater was more than likely hired to conduct the bombing. After all, that is part of their purpose. They serve no particular country, as a rogue organization.
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They are mercenaries, killers for hire, "Soldiers of Fortune," if you will.
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blackwater was more than likely hired to conduct the bombing. After all, that is part of their purpose. They serve no particular country, as a rogue organization.
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They are mercenaries, killers for hire, "Soldiers of Fortune," if you will.
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They were lame and didn't act on the lead.
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i'll add my 2 cents then scram, but are there as many hi def pictures of other spots along the raceway as there was here? I understand people will be taking pictures, and would want to send them in, but damn, there are a lot of pictures of the right place, the right time, and of the right people. Not to mention photos of specops and where they were as well as what they were doing.

all these pics for us to figure it out like it was supposed to be seen.
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Yes!

The other bomb exploded in front of the Forum Restaurant. I've seen no mention of that bomb site on this or any other forum. Google it, there's very little information to be found.

[link to www.csmonitor.com]
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SANDY HOOK and BOSTON

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Last Edited by MtBarb on 04/19/2013 01:21 PM
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Re: why was CRAFT / BLACKWATER personnel at the Boston marathon ? why did they nothing ? THIS is what you should ask ! UPDATED w/ Info
They are there as experts / consultants. The government hires them to do work like intelligence, security, risk mitigation, etc.

These aren't your average keyboard commandos, they're all former military, vast majority are spec ops. So it's a way for the gov't to keep employing the people they trained but who got tired of being sent to every sh-thole in the world to fight BS fights for no good reasons.

They're hired because they present a more cost effective way of putting the best trained individuals on the ground wherever they're needed. It's cost effective because the gov't doesn't pay their salary 24/7 365, they pay only when they're working. And no pensions, healthcare, risk pay etc.
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Wtf is their function though? They didn't do shit to prevent it or to help after it happened. Pictures show most of them behind the Finish line after the explosions.
 Quoting: U3


They're not there to prevent it. As you can see on the images, they immediately deployed radiation detectors etc. Their job is to gather intelligence for other agencies. Ensuring that the responding agencies have the right information.

Their jobs would have been to try and determine if there were any other risks involved for responders, such as radiation, chemical, biological agents dispersed etc.

These groups are basically at EVERY large event, since large events are prime targets for terrorism. It doesn't mean that it was a known threat, ALL events are treated as potential targets.
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SANDY HOOK and BOSTON

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Somehow I messed this up trying to quote and reply. Can the person who imbedded the pictures please do it again. I'll leave it alone. THANKS!!
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SANDY HOOK and BOSTON

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Please Mr AlphA Canis, would you imbed the pictures again. I accidently erased them. THANKS!
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They are there as experts / consultants. The government hires them to do work like intelligence, security, risk mitigation, etc.

These aren't your average keyboard commandos, they're all former military, vast majority are spec ops. So it's a way for the gov't to keep employing the people they trained but who got tired of being sent to every sh-thole in the world to fight BS fights for no good reasons.

They're hired because they present a more cost effective way of putting the best trained individuals on the ground wherever they're needed. It's cost effective because the gov't doesn't pay their salary 24/7 365, they pay only when they're working. And no pensions, healthcare, risk pay etc.
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Hell yeah. Craft is one of the best out there too. And they believe more in America then 7/8ths of the posters on GLP, and have shown that by putting their asses on the line multiple times before being hired so you keyboard commandos out there can slam the US as much as you want. In case you forgot, people die for those rights for you, assholes.

These operators are bound by very strict contracts on what they can and cannot do on an assignment and those terms are strictly laid out. Had they shot one the guys that's on the run now, asshats here would be yelling they were executing people at will and that would be another furor.

There is probably some intel out there that was heard before the Marathon happened. What that was, who knows. But as of now there's so much we don't know, and we can conjecture till our keyboards wear out but it's still conjecture. Until you find some hard evidence that Craft contractors were being nefarious, we have to assume they were there for a reason. Besides, they stick out like sore thumbs and if they weren't supposed to be there, dontcha think they would blend into the crowds rather then walking down the middle of the streets?

Sometimes the only conspiracies are those in our minds and reality is a strange truth.
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blackwater was more than likely hired to conduct the bombing. After all, that is part of their purpose. They serve no particular country, as a rogue organization.
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They are mercenaries, killers for hire, "Soldiers of Fortune," if you will.
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Sooooo...why didn't they kill anybody?
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..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
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:bump~!:
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What is up with all these different "Sparrow" users??? Some are named "Sparrow and Medicine" others are named "Eye of the Sparrow"??? Da fuq?

What is Sparrow? Google search doesn't show me anything related to the avatars...
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blackwater was more than likely hired to conduct the bombing. After all, that is part of their purpose. They serve no particular country, as a rogue organization.
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Do-Not ever say that, Per-Son in the k/now they are 4 the people!
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Who would you say those sketchy looking mo-fo's with the earpieces and less obvious military gear are?





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