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why was CRAFT / BLACKWATER personnel at the Boston marathon ? why did they nothing ? THIS is what you should ask ! UPDATED w/ Info

 
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Caution:
WE DO NOT KNOW who they were.
We only KNOW with certainty, that they were military/spook types.
But let's NOT get ahead of ourselves, we do not know more than that. So forget "Blackwater" "Seals" and such; that's pure speculation on very flimsy evidence.
Their "civilian uniform" means absolutely nothing for identification purposes, in fact, it is probably to mislead to make you think that they are something else than what they really are, after-all they are fairly conspicuous.

One guy looks like a middle easterner with an olive skin which opens a load of speculation. Of course, the poorly informed says: "arab", but shepardim jews often look the same also.
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Yes we do:
Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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All those men, all the training they have had and all that equipment........and 2 punk kids got by them with back packs and pressure cooker bombs.

Two of the guys were pretty close to the first bomb. It's a big FAIL...unless there is an ulterior motive.
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@Poland User, we already have this over here :)

what do you think about this?

at least the one in the middle seems to be the same guy?

Thread: Craft International IS the Sandy Hook Police - PIC!!

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I am a private military contract. know a lot of guys who do contracts like this..

Craft was there because the administration wouldnt take the threat seriously. but they new about a possible bomb. so they went in hopes they could find it. those backpacks are filled with EOD type tools. and im sure they had some radiation detectors there too.

so there you have it. Craft care more about america than our president. the president didnt give a shit about the threat. our freedom fighting 3%ers did give a shit. so they came on their own will no charge to sweep for bombs. they just didnt succeed
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But they were ID'ed. Going with your theory, maybe this was a drill... to smoke them out. If so, the rabbit hole goes deep in this one.

Personally, I think they are NEST. Most likely a team is present at any major event in a large city or close by.
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SANDY HOOK and BOSTON

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Please Mr AlphA Canis, would you imbed the pictures again. I accidently erased them. THANKS!
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..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
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EXACTLY! There are photos of them almost directly where one bomb went off. Seconds later, they are in the street, turned around looking at the scene and talking on cell phones. You can see the chaos all around them.

Then, the next photos show them behind the finish line...and a black SUV with satellite dishes on it....which leaves the area.

They should be the ones that stay there and help. Instead, they report it and leave!!!!!!!!
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Yeah! WITHOUT HIS BACKPACK!!! [link to fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net (secure)]
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THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT LINK DO NOT LOSE THIS LINK

THERE WILL BE ABOUT TEN IMPORTANT LINKS IN ALL
THIS WILL BE ONE OF THEM
HIS BACKPACK MATCHES
WHERE IS IT!

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Possible the guys from Craft was getting payback for the government taking out Chris Kyle?
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I asked this in another thread and received no reply, but who hired them, they don't come cheap, the state, the feds, or a private corporation?
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Blackwater were there for security purposes. They're forces are limited. By this I mean, you can't expect them to monitor each and every person there, which were innumerable.

After the blast, the medical team takes over to help the injured, Blackwater were there to identify the perpetrator, which was at the time, finding a needle in a haystack.
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..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
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EXACTLY! There are photos of them almost directly where one bomb went off. Seconds later, they are in the street, turned around looking at the scene and talking on cell phones. You can see the chaos all around them.

Then, the next photos show them behind the finish line...and a black SUV with satellite dishes on it....which leaves the area.

They should be the ones that stay there and help. Instead, they report it and leave!!!!!!!!
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Yeah! WITHOUT HIS BACKPACK!!! [link to fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Falk


THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT LINK DO NOT LOSE THIS LINK

THERE WILL BE ABOUT TEN IMPORTANT LINKS IN ALL
THIS WILL BE ONE OF THEM
HIS BACKPACK MATCHES
WHERE IS IT!

bump
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if anyone needs any of these pictures later, feel free to ask.

there´s 2 matching backpacks. the one with red shirt blue jacket and this guy.

there were around 8 bombs that day. they have backpacks big enough to carry them around.

they were clearly looking for something after the blast.

and then, there´s the twitter from 12.53pm "BREAKING NEWS: Police will have controlled explosion on 600 block on Boylston Street"
[link to twitter.com (secure)] and vid [link to www.youtube.com]

drill gone wrong. very wrong.
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Caution:
WE DO NOT KNOW who they were.
We only KNOW with certainty, that they were military/spook types.
But let's NOT get ahead of ourselves, we do not know more than that. So forget "Blackwater" "Seals" and such; that's pure speculation on very flimsy evidence.
Their "civilian uniform" means absolutely nothing for identification purposes, in fact, it is probably to mislead to make you think that they are something else than what they really are, after-all they are fairly conspicuous.

One guy looks like a middle easterner with an olive skin which opens a load of speculation. Of course, the poorly informed says: "arab", but shepardim jews often look the same also.
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Yes we do:
Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7465905





All those men, all the training they have had and all that equipment........and 2 punk kids got by them with back packs and pressure cooker bombs.

Two of the guys were pretty close to the first bomb. It's a big FAIL...unless there is an ulterior motive.
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Too bad you dont even have a basic understanding of what Force Protection is or what it takes to achieve it.
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You're right. I'm just an average citizen with quesitons. I think there should be more like me trying to find out what's going on.
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Blackwater were there for security purposes. They're forces are limited. By this I mean, you can't expect them to monitor each and every person there, which were innumerable.

After the blast, the medical team takes over to help the injured, Blackwater were there to identify the perpetrator, which was at the time, finding a needle in a haystack.
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Who would have hired them to be there? Those 2 guys were very close to the first bomb. How much of a needle in a haystack is less than 10 feet away? (I don't know the actual distance but this seems a good guess.)
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Why didnt a k9 unit sniff out a bleeding suspect 2 hiding just blocks from shoot out scene?


They should have nabbed him in 10 minutes after they found abandoned car.

Its just an excuse to practice martial law.




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I was wondering the same thing myself. Once pursuit was on foot, K-9s were the appropriate tracking method.
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..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
 Quoting: Doomina




EXACTLY! There are photos of them almost directly where one bomb went off. Seconds later, they are in the street, turned around looking at the scene and talking on cell phones. You can see the chaos all around them.

Then, the next photos show them behind the finish line...and a black SUV with satellite dishes on it....which leaves the area.

They should be the ones that stay there and help. Instead, they report it and leave!!!!!!!!
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Yeah! WITHOUT HIS BACKPACK!!! [link to fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Falk


THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT LINK DO NOT LOSE THIS LINK

THERE WILL BE ABOUT TEN IMPORTANT LINKS IN ALL
THIS WILL BE ONE OF THEM
HIS BACKPACK MATCHES
WHERE IS IT!

bump
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Where is his backpack??

ummm, it is on his back. here is the photo that is not cropped. clearly, it is after the bombs went off and he has it on

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Blackwater were there for security purposes. They're forces are limited. By this I mean, you can't expect them to monitor each and every person there, which were innumerable.

After the blast, the medical team takes over to help the injured, Blackwater were there to identify the perpetrator, which was at the time, finding a needle in a haystack.
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Who would have hired them to be there? Those 2 guys were very close to the first bomb. How much of a needle in a haystack is less than 10 feet away? (I don't know the actual distance but this seems a good guess.)
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at what time was that photo taken when they were close to the blast site?

they were all over that area for hours. here is the photo that isnt cropped and you can see him there with it on after the explosion.

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Yes we do:
Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
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All those men, all the training they have had and all that equipment........and 2 punk kids got by them with back packs and pressure cooker bombs.

Two of the guys were pretty close to the first bomb. It's a big FAIL...unless there is an ulterior motive.
 Quoting: U3


Too bad you dont even have a basic understanding of what Force Protection is or what it takes to achieve it.
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You're right. I'm just an average citizen with quesitons. I think there should be more like me trying to find out what's going on.
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you are just making accusations. they may have been close to the bomb blast site, but that photo could have been taken hours before the bomb went off. do you have a photo of them at that location where the race clock is visible? if not, please explain how you can say the were close to the first bomb?

i have not seen one yet, but i would be interested in it.

security is being out-sourced for one specific reason...risk mitigation. something goes wrong, it is not our fault we hired these people.

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Wonder what is on the hat of suspect #2.

Does anyone have a photo of the front of his hat by chance?



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Why didnt a k9 unit sniff out a bleeding suspect 2 hiding just blocks from shoot out scene?


They should have nabbed him in 10 minutes after they found abandoned car.

Its just an excuse to practice martial law.




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I was wondering the same thing myself. Once pursuit was on foot, K-9s were the appropriate tracking method.
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Also, where are the pictures of bullet riddled cars? The boat with a thousand rounds fired into it? Scorch and blast marks left by the 'explosives' they threw at police during their Hollywood getaway? What guns did the brothers have? No pictures of them either? Police and swat happen to be horrible shots and can't hit a kid in a boat? All the explosives they were supposed to have? Police shot your brother and you push him out of your car and then run over him?

WTF sort of fucked up bullshit are we supposed to believe here? CNN and the other news channels would sell their fucking grandmothers for pictures of all this stuff and yet we see nothing but pictures taken by civilians with iPhones? Everything about this stinks and I fear that the real truth will never be found and anyone who questions The Furher will be pushed farther into the fringe...
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All those men, all the training they have had and all that equipment........and 2 punk kids got by them with back packs and pressure cooker bombs.

Two of the guys were pretty close to the first bomb. It's a big FAIL...unless there is an ulterior motive.
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Too bad you dont even have a basic understanding of what Force Protection is or what it takes to achieve it.
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You're right. I'm just an average citizen with quesitons. I think there should be more like me trying to find out what's going on.
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you are just making accusations. they may have been close to the bomb blast site, but that photo could have been taken hours before the bomb went off. do you have a photo of them at that location where the race clock is visible? if not, please explain how you can say the were close to the first bomb?

i have not seen one yet, but i would be interested in it.

security is being out-sourced for one specific reason...risk mitigation. something goes wrong, it is not our fault we hired these people.

[link to willyloman.files.wordpress.com]
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I have made no accusations. I have no idea what's happened. I'm just trying to find out.

No, I do not have a photo of them with the race clock. I wish I did because I would like to know. I did see a large photo of them, almost at the finish line. They were against the building. I have no idea what time it was they were there.


Who hired these people? I'd like to know. And I still don't understand how so many, highly trained, heavily equipped guys could take so long to find a 19 year old kid.
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..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
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Chris Kyle founded Craft International.

Connect the dots . . .
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Possible the guys from Craft was getting payback for the government taking out Chris Kyle?
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PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE . . . ^^^^^ Connect the dots between Craft, Sandy Hook, Chris Kyle, and bombing . . .
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..and not, was it chechen muslims or any other convenient scapegoat.

there was a drill this day.

there were blackwater personnel, as well as abc-agents.

they should have noticed something, they were standing where the finish line bomb went off.

they did nothing to prevent those people from getting killed or injured.

they didn´t help after the bomb went off.

ask WHY !
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thanks, OP, for this important thread.

yes, ask.

ask why monsatan ( west tx chem fire ) owns 'craft'?
hmmmm...any thoughts, glp?
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Wow - that needs some splainin!
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Sure a lot of f*cking old people walking around with backpacks in that town during a big sporting event. WTF was up the with the security?
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Caution:
WE DO NOT KNOW who they were.
We only KNOW with certainty, that they were military/spook types.
But let's NOT get ahead of ourselves, we do not know more than that. So forget "Blackwater" "Seals" and such; that's pure speculation on very flimsy evidence.
Their "civilian uniform" means absolutely nothing for identification purposes, in fact, it is probably to mislead to make you think that they are something else than what they really are, after-all they are fairly conspicuous.

One guy looks like a middle easterner with an olive skin which opens a load of speculation. Of course, the poorly informed says: "arab", but shepardim jews often look the same also.
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Yes we do:
Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings
[link to www.dailypaul.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7465905





All those men, all the training they have had and all that equipment........and 2 punk kids got by them with back packs and pressure cooker bombs.

Two of the guys were pretty close to the first bomb. It's a big FAIL...unless there is an ulterior motive.
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I have a hard time believing members of the national guard stood and watched folks bleeding to death and did not jump in to help.
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Chris Kyle founded Craft International.

Connect the dots . . .
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Wow - that needs some splainin!
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Eye-opener, eh?
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