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Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise

 
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Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Here's an editorial in the Washington Times written by Rand Paul. He is supporting the Gang of 8 immigration compromise with some tweaks.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

It's bullshit. Read this quote:

The third plank of my plan is to secure the taxpayers’ dollars through welfare reform. When reforming immigration laws, our nation needs to make sure we don’t explode our national debt with a pathway to the welfare state. In a perfect world, Congress would be debating welfare reform alongside immigration reform.

Yeah right:

(1) So guess what happens. The immigration compromise passes, the welfare reform fails.

(2) Anyway it would probably be a civil rights violation to keep these newly-legal people off welfare. 14th Amendment "equal protection of the laws" and all that. Rand Paul is not stupid. He knows this.

He's selling us out. Just like that other Republican, Marco Rubio. Like the Republicans have always been. They really want these Mexicans to come in. I don't know quite why, it's definitely not for the preservation of the Republican party, because no matter what changes the Republican make, they'll always vote Democratic and everyone knows it.

The Gang of 8 deal is totally unacceptable. It's so far to the right it's no basis for discussion and adjustment. It needs to be rejected totally.

And Rand Paul is selling us out.
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You are not part of us, you sir are a shill. Good day to you smile_hear

Hey everybody OP is a phoney!!!
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You are not part of us, you sir are a shill. Good day to you smile_hear

Hey everybody OP is a phoney!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20894964


I am not a part of you. But who are you?

WTF are you talking about, do you have anything coherent to say?

BTW thanks to the 1* bandit, he hits the most incisive threads.
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Rand paul is true he won't be selling out to anybody.
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Rand paul is true he won't be selling out to anybody.
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So how do you interpret his acceptance of the Gang of 8 recipe with only tweaks? That recipe will provide a pathway to citizenship for current illegals and future ones (instead they'll be guest workers) too!

And he says he'll keep them off welfare. Impossible, they cannot legally be kept off welfare.
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he was never one of us. hes a polititian.
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04/21/2013 07:04 PM
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he was never one of us. hes a polititian.
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Hard as it is, we have got to try to control the political process and what these politicians do.

I guess Rand Paul has sold out on this issue, but maybe others have not. By exposing him we can make it harder to get this horrible idea through the House and Senate.

I think there are some congressmen who would oppose it. Just guessing, Sen. Jeff Sessions and Rep. Tom Tancredo would oppose it.
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bedtime bump

I am really mad at Rand Paul. Marco Rubio too. This "immigration reform" has to be put in the bin; start over.
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plain old bump
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bump because I want everyone to know.
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Here's an editorial in the Washington Times written by Rand Paul. He is supporting the Gang of 8 immigration compromise with some tweaks.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

It's bullshit. Read this quote:

The third plank of my plan is to secure the taxpayers’ dollars through welfare reform. When reforming immigration laws, our nation needs to make sure we don’t explode our national debt with a pathway to the welfare state. In a perfect world, Congress would be debating welfare reform alongside immigration reform.

Yeah right:

(1) So guess what happens. The immigration compromise passes, the welfare reform fails.

(2) Anyway it would probably be a civil rights violation to keep these newly-legal people off welfare. 14th Amendment "equal protection of the laws" and all that. Rand Paul is not stupid. He knows this.

He's selling us out. Just like that other Republican, Marco Rubio. Like the Republicans have always been. They really want these Mexicans to come in. I don't know quite why, it's definitely not for the preservation of the Republican party, because no matter what changes the Republican make, they'll always vote Democratic and everyone knows it.

The Gang of 8 deal is totally unacceptable. It's so far to the right it's no basis for discussion and adjustment. It needs to be rejected totally.

And Rand Paul is selling us out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24537404


why not he betrayed the country initiative to endorse a republican loser and cowtow to establishment.

i knew he was nothing then.
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bump

(btw I made a typo in OP, it should say "it's so far to the LEFT" not "it's so far to the right")
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04/27/2013 12:42 PM
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
He betrayed us when he supported Romney, I'll never trust him again.
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Rand Paul is not Ron Paul.

He's a fucking neocon.
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04/27/2013 03:54 PM
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Rand Paul is not Ron Paul.

He's a fucking neocon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38962239


Yes. This article says he's trying to go mainstream while still holding on to his base.

[link to www.politico.com]

This thread is for that base, to encourage them to drop him.
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Why so many self bumps?
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To help folks like you in keeping it visible.
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
He's a libertarian, what do you expect.
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Re: Rand Paul betrays us on immigration, wants to work with Gang of 8 compromise
Time for a well deserved bump!





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