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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39392535 Belgium 05/07/2013 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay.. What I see from this thread.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29081478 Some guy wants the TRUTH about things, he ask for evidence, NOT claims backed by claims.. People can't come up with any hard evidence and then attacks him personally and call him and everyone who opposed them a Government hired shill.. You guys gives Conspiracies a bad name (Yes I got 50 dollar for posting this post by the CIA, And now I wont get them because I said it) The funny thing is, I actually do work for the federal government, lol. :fleet: This might be the reason why you're not open minded. ;) Do you trust your government? |
The Guy
(OP) User ID: 5145260 United States 05/07/2013 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay.. What I see from this thread.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29081478 Some guy wants the TRUTH about things, he ask for evidence, NOT claims backed by claims.. People can't come up with any hard evidence and then attacks him personally and call him and everyone who opposed them a Government hired shill.. You guys gives Conspiracies a bad name (Yes I got 50 dollar for posting this post by the CIA, And now I wont get them because I said it) The funny thing is, I actually do work for the federal government, lol. This might be the reason why you're not open minded. ;) Do you trust your government? Hell no! Like I said, I work for them, . That's one reason I'm against government-run health care: I have it already, and know how crappy it is. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 05/07/2013 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 39077720 Seen this claim made many times, but NEVER any vid showing it actually happening. Usually, the claim is that they have returned to "spray" again. You, on the other hand, say they WEREN'T spraying. So... if they return, still leaving a trail, it's evidence for chemtrials. If they return and are NOT leaving a trail, it is STILL evidence for chemtrials. Fascinating! Just saying what I saw. I can't speak for others or their claims. ~WX Correct. You are just SAYING what you saw, with no supporting evidence. Your declaration that planes flying in the same air space can both leave and not leave trails is also unsubstantiated. People claim to see thing happening "all the time", yet don't take any vids of it. Yawn. Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. No need for vids anymore; these perfect atmospheric conditions for persistent contrails/chemtrails appear to exist daily/continuously/365/24/7 now. One only has to look up as the poster stated. See planes side by side at 33,300 feet; one laying a contrail one not. Imagine that little fish. Better minds evaluating this anomaly. Old news/info also btw. [link to www.af.mil] Nice, Guy. You forgot the fuel differences and whatever else may be used as an additive. And for us chemtards you forgot a whole slew of other crap but that's not for this post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 05/07/2013 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay.. What I see from this thread.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29081478 Some guy wants the TRUTH about things, he ask for evidence, NOT claims backed by claims.. People can't come up with any hard evidence and then attacks him personally and call him and everyone who opposed them a Government hired shill.. You guys gives Conspiracies a bad name (Yes I got 50 dollar for posting this post by the CIA, And now I wont get them because I said it) The funny thing is, I actually do work for the federal government, lol. :fleet: This might be the reason why you're not open minded. ;) Do you trust your government? Hell no! Like I said, I work for them, . That's one reason I'm against government-run health care: I have it already, and know how crappy it is. WoW. Please due tell us about how crappy the best medical care in the world is..... |
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The Guy
(OP) User ID: 5145260 United States 05/07/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This might be the reason why you're not open minded. ;) Do you trust your government? Hell no! Like I said, I work for them, . That's one reason I'm against government-run health care: I have it already, and know how crappy it is. WoW. Please due tell us about how crappy the best medical care in the world is..... If you pay for it out of your own private funds, it's much better. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9655964 United States 05/07/2013 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who cares about any of this. You can see all the supposed chemtrails/contrails you want in the sky. Bottom line? What is hitting the ground? Where are documented tests of "fallout". Like, I want YT video of a guy checking a particle collection trap and analyzing it start to finish. Clifford Carnicom had a page from 2004 telling all about detecting Barium but no pics, no real proof, nothing. Only his words on a page. I want to see his testing put on YT. Hell, anybody testing *any* fallout from supposed chemtrail activity over an area. He's all about testing for Morgellons stuff now...zero mention about the Barium anymore. And asking for money. Is this the best the internet sleuths can do? I wanna see somebody do a video of a PH test. Let's see it. So cheap to do. I. Want. To. Believe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 05/07/2013 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who cares about any of this. You can see all the supposed chemtrails/contrails you want in the sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9655964 Bottom line? What is hitting the ground? Where are documented tests of "fallout". Like, I want YT video of a guy checking a particle collection trap and analyzing it start to finish. Clifford Carnicom had a page from 2004 telling all about detecting Barium but no pics, no real proof, nothing. Only his words on a page. I want to see his testing put on YT. Hell, anybody testing *any* fallout from supposed chemtrail activity over an area. He's all about testing for Morgellons stuff now...zero mention about the Barium anymore. And asking for money. Is this the best the internet sleuths can do? I wanna see somebody do a video of a PH test. Let's see it. So cheap to do. I. Want. To. Believe. What do you want? Morgellons? Show us what you can do? Go away. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 05/07/2013 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3161245 Just saying what I saw. I can't speak for others or their claims. ~WX Correct. You are just SAYING what you saw, with no supporting evidence. Your declaration that planes flying in the same air space can both leave and not leave trails is also unsubstantiated. People claim to see thing happening "all the time", yet don't take any vids of it. Yawn. Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. No need for vids anymore; these perfect atmospheric conditions for persistent contrails/chemtrails appear to exist daily/continuously/365/24/7 now. One only has to look up as the poster stated. See planes side by side at 33,300 feet; one laying a contrail one not. Imagine that little fish. Better minds evaluating this anomaly. Old news/info also btw. [link to www.af.mil] Nice, Guy. You forgot the fuel differences and whatever else may be used as an additive. And for us chemtards you forgot a whole slew of other crap but that's not for this post. See "The Guy" can address all the little shit, but not real questions. Should anyone be surprised? He just plays mind games with the real pilots while aboard ship. Wanna be sockpuppet. If they only knew. He sucks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 05/07/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay.. What I see from this thread.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29081478 Some guy wants the TRUTH about things, he ask for evidence, NOT claims backed by claims.. People can't come up with any hard evidence and then attacks him personally and call him and everyone who opposed them a Government hired shill.. You guys gives Conspiracies a bad name (Yes I got 50 dollar for posting this post by the CIA, And now I wont get them because I said it) The funny thing is, I actually do work for the federal government, lol. :fleet: This might be the reason why you're not open minded. ;) Do you trust your government? Hell no! Like I said, I work for them, . That's one reason I'm against government-run health care: I have it already, and know how crappy it is. Get used to it because that all you'll ever know. And you work for them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 05/08/2013 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39392535 This might be the reason why you're not open minded. ;) Do you trust your government? Hell no! Like I said, I work for them, . That's one reason I'm against government-run health care: I have it already, and know how crappy it is. WoW. Please due tell us about how crappy the best medical care in the world is..... If you pay for it out of your own private funds, it's much better. Bullshit. Had both, I know the difference. Clearly shilling with this one Guy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 05/08/2013 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 39077720 Correct. You are just SAYING what you saw, with no supporting evidence. Your declaration that planes flying in the same air space can both leave and not leave trails is also unsubstantiated. People claim to see thing happening "all the time", yet don't take any vids of it. Yawn. Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. No need for vids anymore; these perfect atmospheric conditions for persistent contrails/chemtrails appear to exist daily/continuously/365/24/7 now. One only has to look up as the poster stated. See planes side by side at 33,300 feet; one laying a contrail one not. Imagine that little fish. Better minds evaluating this anomaly. Old news/info also btw. [link to www.af.mil] Nice, Guy. You forgot the fuel differences and whatever else may be used as an additive. And for us chemtards you forgot a whole slew of other crap but that's not for this post. See "The Guy" can address all the little shit, but not real questions. Should anyone be surprised? He just plays mind games with the real pilots while aboard ship. Wanna be sockpuppet. If they only knew. He sucks. And he has one of the best health insurance plans his/mine/your $$ can buy and has the audacity to whine about it like a little bitch. Go figure. They just read the same shit we all can and spew it ad nauseam limited by their 7th grade science education...of course. They think the earth is still flat.... They confuse, persuade, and influence it's their job; these maggots are not "in the know" they just like to think they are. Really shows what psychotic little sob's they are. |
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DVCMCM
User ID: 39497988 Italy 05/08/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is clearly lying: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39183043 Thread: heavy chemtrailing in buffalo, ny today ... or an attention whore. Or he really believes that contrails can't form clouds, and that therefore someone is intentionally spraying something strange. SO now for you the question is: In which school book is written that contrails can form clouds? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 05/08/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my little country Lithuania today i don't even know what to think because since morning i saw so many chemtrails that i didn't even seen on youtube. i don't know what they are trying to hide, but whole sky was fool of them and most were where the sun and they were appearing whole time and so many Quoting: Bagira Same deal here Bagira. The sky in filled. Right where the sun keeps trying to peek out. |
Chemtard = 101 User ID: 15365559 United States 05/08/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is clearly lying: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39183043 Thread: heavy chemtrailing in buffalo, ny today ... or an attention whore. Or he really believes that contrails can't form clouds, and that therefore someone is intentionally spraying something strange. SO now for you the question is: In which school book is written that contrails can form clouds? Here are some nice contrails been there for 3 hours... [link to s1302.photobucket.com] Can't seem to get a direct link |
DVCMCM
User ID: 39508600 Italy 05/08/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here are some nice contrails been there for 3 hours... Quoting: Chemtard = 101 15365559 [link to s1302.photobucket.com] Can't seem to get a direct link Nothing to see here... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39426989 United States 05/08/2013 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, haven't been on much lately. I was just wondering if anybody has taken a direct sample from a "chemtrail" yet and seen what it's really made of, or if the whole thing is still a bunch of speculative BS that ignores Occam's Razor. Thanks! Quoting: The Guy These were the second and third rockets of four planned for launch during this year’s campaign in the Marshall Islands. The first and fourth rockets are supporting the Metal Oxide Space Cloud experiment (MOSC), which is studying radio frequency propagation. Red and white vapor clouds filled the skies over the Marshall Islands as part of NASA’s Equatorial Vortex Experiment (EVEX). The red cloud was formed by the release of lithium vapor and the white tracer clouds were formed by the release of trimethyl aluminum (TMA). These clouds allowed scientists on the ground from various locations in the Marshall Islands to observe the neutral winds in the ionosphere. Credit: NASA/John Grant [link to www.nasa.gov] MOSC experiment [link to www.google.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 05/09/2013 05:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 39077720 Correct. You are just SAYING what you saw, with no supporting evidence. Your declaration that planes flying in the same air space can both leave and not leave trails is also unsubstantiated. People claim to see thing happening "all the time", yet don't take any vids of it. Yawn. Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. No need for vids anymore; these perfect atmospheric conditions for persistent contrails/chemtrails appear to exist daily/continuously/365/24/7 now. One only has to look up as the poster stated. See planes side by side at 33,300 feet; one laying a contrail one not. Imagine that little fish. Better minds evaluating this anomaly. Old news/info also btw. [link to www.af.mil] Nice, Guy. You forgot the fuel differences and whatever else may be used as an additive. And for us chemtards you forgot a whole slew of other crap but that's not for this post. See "The Guy" can address all the little shit, but not real questions. Should anyone be surprised? He just plays mind games with the real pilots while aboard ship. Wanna be sockpuppet. If they only knew. He sucks. this has been addressed thousands of times. chemtards fail to understand it. |
oblitus Pertinax
User ID: 9009322 Bulgaria 05/09/2013 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 39077720 Correct. You are just SAYING what you saw, with no supporting evidence. Your declaration that planes flying in the same air space can both leave and not leave trails is also unsubstantiated. People claim to see thing happening "all the time", yet don't take any vids of it. Yawn. Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. Yep. You are correct. Just one more fact chemmies refuse to learn or acknowledge. I'd be happy if they just understood the basics of how clouds form. You mean naturally or artificially? Here you have your hard evidence: [link to www.popsci.com] [link to www.itar-tass.com] [link to pda.itar-tass.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 05/09/2013 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Guy Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. Yep. You are correct. Just one more fact chemmies refuse to learn or acknowledge. I'd be happy if they just understood the basics of how clouds form. You mean naturally or artificially? Here you have your hard evidence: [link to www.popsci.com] [link to www.itar-tass.com] [link to pda.itar-tass.com] Yeah?! So? What does this have to do with the trails or how clouds form?! If you'd actually read the articles. Clouds have to be already in place for cloud dispersants to work...and there is no evidence to link the trails we see to any of these things. |
oblitus Pertinax
User ID: 9009322 Bulgaria 05/09/2013 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 39463851 Yep. You are correct. Just one more fact chemmies refuse to learn or acknowledge. I'd be happy if they just understood the basics of how clouds form. You mean naturally or artificially? Here you have your hard evidence: [link to www.popsci.com] [link to www.itar-tass.com] [link to pda.itar-tass.com] Yeah?! So? What does this have to do with the trails or how clouds form?! If you'd actually read the articles. Clouds have to be already in place for cloud dispersants to work...and there is no evidence to link the trails we see to any of these things. Lol. I have nothing more to say, Alice! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States 05/09/2013 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Guy Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. No need for vids anymore; these perfect atmospheric conditions for persistent contrails/chemtrails appear to exist daily/continuously/365/24/7 now. One only has to look up as the poster stated. See planes side by side at 33,300 feet; one laying a contrail one not. Imagine that little fish. Better minds evaluating this anomaly. Old news/info also btw. [link to www.af.mil] Nice, Guy. You forgot the fuel differences and whatever else may be used as an additive. And for us chemtards you forgot a whole slew of other crap but that's not for this post. See "The Guy" can address all the little shit, but not real questions. Should anyone be surprised? He just plays mind games with the real pilots while aboard ship. Wanna be sockpuppet. If they only knew. He sucks. this has been addressed thousands of times. chemtards fail to understand it. still with the disinfo. lol Failure to understand we know what they are here for. |
The Guy
(OP) User ID: 4266 United States 05/09/2013 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is clearly lying: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39183043 Thread: heavy chemtrailing in buffalo, ny today ... or an attention whore. Or he really believes that contrails can't form clouds, and that therefore someone is intentionally spraying something strange. SO now for you the question is: In which school book is written that contrails can form clouds? I think it was in third grade that I learned about cloud formation, but I'd read it on my own before that. Clouds are condensed water vapor, contrails are mainly hot water vapor which rapidly cools... Not that hard to figure out. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
The Guy
(OP) User ID: 8760 United States 05/09/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PS. Opie you work for the DOD not the FED. This is why you have a different health care plan from them...albeit a good one but still less/lower than theirs. Get in line sheep you are nothing to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 TRICARE, yeah. My contention is that prices will go down for private health care if the government would stop subsidizing. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
The Guy
(OP) User ID: 76144 United States 05/09/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey all, haven't been on much lately. I was just wondering if anybody has taken a direct sample from a "chemtrail" yet and seen what it's really made of, or if the whole thing is still a bunch of speculative BS that ignores Occam's Razor. Thanks! Quoting: The Guy These were the second and third rockets of four planned for launch during this year’s campaign in the Marshall Islands. The first and fourth rockets are supporting the Metal Oxide Space Cloud experiment (MOSC), which is studying radio frequency propagation. Red and white vapor clouds filled the skies over the Marshall Islands as part of NASA’s Equatorial Vortex Experiment (EVEX). The red cloud was formed by the release of lithium vapor and the white tracer clouds were formed by the release of trimethyl aluminum (TMA). These clouds allowed scientists on the ground from various locations in the Marshall Islands to observe the neutral winds in the ionosphere. Credit: NASA/John Grant [link to www.nasa.gov] MOSC experiment [link to www.google.com (secure)] Nice. They've been doing experiments like that since the 60s, though. "Chemtrails" are supposedly stuff being sprayed from planes as the explanation for long-lasting trails way below the ionosphere. It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
The Guy
(OP) User ID: 4266 United States 05/09/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Guy Actually, that can happen. It's a matter of engine efficiency. A more efficient engine combusts the fuel more completely, and therefore its exhaust contains more water vapor than a less efficient engine, and are therefore more likely to leave a trail. Yep. You are correct. Just one more fact chemmies refuse to learn or acknowledge. I'd be happy if they just understood the basics of how clouds form. You mean naturally or artificially? Here you have your hard evidence: [link to www.popsci.com] [link to www.itar-tass.com] [link to pda.itar-tass.com] Um, none of that looks like "chemtrails." So, what are those links supposed to be evidence of? It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30170064 United States 05/09/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 39463851 Yep. You are correct. Just one more fact chemmies refuse to learn or acknowledge. I'd be happy if they just understood the basics of how clouds form. You mean naturally or artificially? Here you have your hard evidence: [link to www.popsci.com] [link to www.itar-tass.com] [link to pda.itar-tass.com] Um, none of that looks like "chemtrails." So, what are those links supposed to be evidence of? good question .. |