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The Vatican outlawed The Bible in 1229

 
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Placed as a forbidden book, wonder why?
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This was during/shortly after the height of the Albigensian Crusade.

Too many Albigensians, reading the words of Jesus, came to the understanding that he taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', as is to be found in a detailed explanation of the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees and the references to John the Baptist.

Can't have people coming to a different understanding of the Teaching of Jesus than the 'official' (dis)understanding.

Michael
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You're absolutely right Michael. On both accounts the post above and the one below.

Thank you for your input.
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
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You are spot on OP. I like your new handle better than the other. Something about the second and third admonition...But yeah, Orign, subverted the text, witch was Constantine's right hand man.

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Colossians 2:8


Catholics love their traditons.
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I was a Catholic until God called me to come out of Her this past December. Thank you for the comments.

HF
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Wonderful,

May I be so bold as to ask how He called you out? In a vision, of His Word or another?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45133918


Both vision and words. A vision that never went against the word of God, see my thread on the apparition of Mary, rather it reinforced it.

December 9th was the turning point. December 17th another vision accompanied by the request not to celebrate the 'pagan' Christmas. December 24, and 27 more visions.

I have been blessed by numerous visions since. Once again these visions never go against the words of God.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Hosea 6:2

"After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight."

Surely, the learned ones of that time had read Hosea, no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45133918


Please read the Treatise on Resurrection which is similar to the words found in Isaiah, Matthew, and Luke.

The resurrection is truly different then what is taught today by the Pharisees and Sadducees.

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Rome has always persecuted The Bible and Christians.

Both the Bible and Christians will expose Rome for what she really is every time, hence she tries to shut us up.

ROME’S PERSECUTION OF THE BIBLE
[link to wayoflife.org]
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Exactly, this is why they, the Romans, made the Bible illegal to read and own. Punishable by death. Another reason why they performed their black 'mass' in Latin. So the 'sheep' wouldn't understand.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


OP - Have you ever watched "A Woman Rides a Beast" on youtube by David Hunt? Really good, i think you would like it.
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@Clearwater

The video was very nice, thank you. I would recommend it for everyone to watch. Perhaps some Catholics should watch to learn just how filthy their religion really is.

ohyeah

However, I doubt 'they' will watch as 'they' enjoy being pagan. Just how hard is it going to be for them when they realize God isn't coming for 'their' false Church?

ohno

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bump and a hf
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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bump and a hf
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Thank you for the

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Placed as a forbidden book, wonder why?
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The Church, the faith, Roman Catholicism canonized Scripture.
If you reject the Church, you reject Scripture.

1 Tim 3:15 states the Church is God's authority on earth not the Bible.
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Placed as a forbidden book, wonder why?
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The Church, the faith, Roman Catholicism canonized Scripture.
If you reject the Church, you reject Scripture.

1 Tim 3:15 states the Church is God's authority on earth not the Bible.
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Spoken like a 'true' Heretic. If you 'reject' the Church.

propoganda


I am against the Romans as my Father HATES the Roman Church. When you realize what 'church' means I will allow you to post on my thread.

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The old 'past' of a former Vicar of 'Christ' .


A real saint
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Placed as a forbidden book, wonder why?
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Cause it would make people smarter,yo.

But now they have access to it and think that it is stupid! Go figure!

chuckle

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Media behavior modification, best programming money can buy.
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
 Quoting: Paddy


The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate) was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.

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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
 Quoting: Paddy


The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate) was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I understand but what I'm saying that I don't see this distortion as literally worshiping the sun.

In other words if you can convince a population to worship an object in the sky because someone else told them to do so then how are they ever going to be expected to figure out which god is the real one?

If this were the case the human race will never figure it out.
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
 Quoting: Paddy


The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate) was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I understand but what I'm saying that I don't see this distortion as literally worshiping the sun.

In other words if you can convince a population to worship an object in the sky because someone else told them to do so then how are they ever going to be expected to figure out which god is the real one?

If this were the case the human race will never figure it out.
 Quoting: Paddy


Think not as literally but figuratively. Constantine hated the true Sabbath and therefore on March 7th, 0321 he declared Sunday the official day of rest in the Roman Empire.

Many 'true' Christians were killed at that point for flat out rejecting 'Sunday' as the day of rest and worship. Jews in particular, that is Jews that had accepted the messiah.

The scriptures were changed accordingly to 'cover up' this fact. Acts being a good example as the original Greek states in Acts 20:7 "unto a Sabbath, unto a Sabbath....."

The lie states, " on the first day of the week the disciples came to break bread." That lie was inserted to cover up the churches sinfulness. And, yes, the church knew exactly what it was doing.

So, if your in the Woman and haven't come out of Her one will be judged according to Her crimes. Why? The words of God state such.

So yes Christians, literally worship the Son of God as a false God because the Son is not the Father, and figuratively because they worship the on the same day as the pagans worshipped their Sun God, double whammy!

I should stress that Christianity will end just as it began with death. This 'false' religion will be brought down and go back to the real religion, that is the religion and worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob through His Son Christ Jesus.

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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
 Quoting: Paddy


The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate)nii was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.
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The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (the continual sacrifice) is the greatest form of prayer. Our Lord, the Father and the Holy Spirit want you to become Roman Catholic. God is going to ask you personally. Remember, only God can show you every moment of your life. Like an NDE experience, it is going happen. Look to the sky, for the Cross, a sign. God bless you OP.
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Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
 Quoting: Paddy


The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate) was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I understand but what I'm saying that I don't see this distortion as literally worshiping the sun.

In other words if you can convince a population to worship an object in the sky because someone else told them to do so then how are they ever going to be expected to figure out which god is the real one?

If this were the case the human race will never figure it out.
 Quoting: Paddy


Think not as literally but figuratively. Constantine hated the true Sabbath and therefore on March 7th, 0321 he declared Sunday the official day of rest in the Roman Empire.

Many 'true' Christians were killed at that point for flat out rejecting 'Sunday' as the day of rest and worship. Jews in particular, that is Jews that had accepted the messiah.

The scriptures were changed accordingly to 'cover up' this fact. Acts being a good example as the original Greek states in Acts 20:7 "unto a Sabbath, unto a Sabbath....."

The lie states, " on the first day of the week the disciples came to break bread." That lie was inserted to cover up the churches sinfulness. And, yes, the church knew exactly what it was doing.

So, if your in the Woman and haven't come out of Her one will be judged according to Her crimes. Why? The words of God state such.

So yes Christians, literally worship the Son of God as a false God because the Son is not the Father, and figuratively because they worship the on the same day as the pagans worshipped their Sun God, double whammy!
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This is something that I knew but had forgotten about, at least to this detail.

Even so, I still think that much more of this entire subject matter is allegorical. I think to the size and scope of the universe and what made it that way and such simple notions such as Saturday vs. Sunday isn't really the point after all. I see this issue as a dichotomy that represents something much more profound than days of the week.

Really, can that which created the universe show us something and allow it to be so easily corrupted that it can be done so by decree and then blame us for not being smart enough to figure it out?
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Don't you think there is more to it than that?

Sun worship? That really isn't what they are doing is it?

Sun worship literally would be as harmless as rock worship or tree worship.
 Quoting: Paddy


The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate)nii was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (the continual sacrifice) is the greatest form of prayer. Our Lord, the Father and the Holy Spirit want you to become Roman Catholic. God is going to ask you personally. Remember, only God can show you every moment of your life. Like an NDE experience, it is going happen. Look to the sky, for the Cross, a sign. God bless you OP.
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Thank you for the blessings and I, too, extend those same blessings to you. I pray that your eyes might be open. I once was Catholic as stated, and God called me to come out of Her. I can only pray that His voice will be heard by you.

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Do not deny history. Pope Damasus by his God given authority canonized Scripture in 382 A.D.
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Satan is not out to take down Protestantism or the Orthodox. The False Prophet is prophesied to be a non-pope. Satan realizes the faith is Roman Catholicism.
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The words of God are quite plain. Look back into the History and see how 'their' mass was structured the same as the Baalists.

Constantine followed Saturnalia who was Baal or the Sun God that was created by Semiramis when Nimrod was killed. The Rays of Baal impregnated Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod incarnate) was born on December 25th. Thus, becoming Satan's 'messiah' to the Babylonians.

Read the Old Testament and see how God hates these false Gods and goddess. All these false Gods are present in the Catholic Church disguised in different names, and that is the 'mystery'

Most importantly, any worship outside of God is harmful. Once again God considers this 'adultery' against Him written throughout the Old Testament.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I understand but what I'm saying that I don't see this distortion as literally worshiping the sun.

In other words if you can convince a population to worship an object in the sky because someone else told them to do so then how are they ever going to be expected to figure out which god is the real one?

If this were the case the human race will never figure it out.
 Quoting: Paddy


Think not as literally but figuratively. Constantine hated the true Sabbath and therefore on March 7th, 0321 he declared Sunday the official day of rest in the Roman Empire.

Many 'true' Christians were killed at that point for flat out rejecting 'Sunday' as the day of rest and worship. Jews in particular, that is Jews that had accepted the messiah.

The scriptures were changed accordingly to 'cover up' this fact. Acts being a good example as the original Greek states in Acts 20:7 "unto a Sabbath, unto a Sabbath....."

The lie states, " on the first day of the week the disciples came to break bread." That lie was inserted to cover up the churches sinfulness. And, yes, the church knew exactly what it was doing.

So, if your in the Woman and haven't come out of Her one will be judged according to Her crimes. Why? The words of God state such.

So yes Christians, literally worship the Son of God as a false God because the Son is not the Father, and figuratively because they worship the on the same day as the pagans worshipped their Sun God, double whammy!
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This is something that I knew but had forgotten about, at least to this detail.

Even so, I still think that much more of this entire subject matter is allegorical. I think to the size and scope of the universe and what made it that way and such simple notions such as Saturday vs. Sunday isn't really the point after all. I see this issue as a dichotomy that represents something much more profound than days of the week.

Really, can that which created the universe show us something and allow it to be so easily corrupted that it can be done so by decree and then blame us for not being smart enough to figure it out?
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When you come to know the Father you will understand the importance of the Sabbath. He created it for 'us' and showed us that He rested and we should to. This day was forever to be followed as discussed in Deuteronomy.

The New Covenant explained best in the words of Jeremiah Chapter 31. It has nothing to do with what people 'teach' today.

The Gospel of Phillip quotes Christ as saying, "and those that don't observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath will not see the Father."

So my point is, if The Lord and God of all rested on the Sabbath could you say that a blatant disregard for His most sacred day would be likened to slapping Him on His face? Are you above and better then God now O covering cherub?

Lucifer tried that and we see what the result of that was. Should I suggest not following in His ways.

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Satan is not out to take down Protestantism or the Orthodox. The False Prophet is prophesied to be a non-pope. Satan realizes the faith is Roman Catholicism.
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How foolish is this statement? Can one not see that they drink from the same cup of filth? They came from Her womb. They. Are just as guilty as they have fornicated with Her.
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Fallen away Catholics flood discussion forums with anti-Catholic threads. Sad, more than non-Catholic Christians. Jesus' presence in the most Holy Eucharist is true. Believe and you will make it through the Great Tribulation to the new time of God. Some call it the Millennium, it is the Era of Peace. All in God's Will. There will be martyrs for the faith.
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Fallen away Catholics flood discussion forums with anti-Catholic threads. Sad, more than non-Catholic Christians. Jesus' presence in the most Holy Eucharist is true. Believe and you will make it through the Great Tribulation to the new time of God. Some call it the Millennium, it is the Era of Peace. All in God's Will. There will be martyrs for the faith.
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The arrogance of avoiding the Truth. The laziness to even discover the Truth. The wickedness not to acknowledge the Truth once it has been found.

My people perish due to lack of knowledge.
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
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"Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

Jeremiah 7:17–18
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....and?
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and Christianity just like other religions are a sham. The blind leading the blind.
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this. the only religion is truth
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The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
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"Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

Jeremiah 7:17–18
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Yep, the children of Israel went off and committed adultery against their TRUE God. And what did God do? He put them to the 'sword' and their bodies lined the streets as dung. Therefore, what does God think about them? They are dung to Him.

Interestingly enough the 'Queen of Heaven' cakes are still made today in the Roman Church. Disguised, of course, under a different name. Therein lies the 'mystery'

Thank you for your input.

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I understand but what I'm saying that I don't see this distortion as literally worshiping the sun.

In other words if you can convince a population to worship an object in the sky because someone else told them to do so then how are they ever going to be expected to figure out which god is the real one?

If this were the case the human race will never figure it out.
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Think not as literally but figuratively. Constantine hated the true Sabbath and therefore on March 7th, 0321 he declared Sunday the official day of rest in the Roman Empire.

Many 'true' Christians were killed at that point for flat out rejecting 'Sunday' as the day of rest and worship. Jews in particular, that is Jews that had accepted the messiah.

The scriptures were changed accordingly to 'cover up' this fact. Acts being a good example as the original Greek states in Acts 20:7 "unto a Sabbath, unto a Sabbath....."

The lie states, " on the first day of the week the disciples came to break bread." That lie was inserted to cover up the churches sinfulness. And, yes, the church knew exactly what it was doing.

So, if your in the Woman and haven't come out of Her one will be judged according to Her crimes. Why? The words of God state such.

So yes Christians, literally worship the Son of God as a false God because the Son is not the Father, and figuratively because they worship the on the same day as the pagans worshipped their Sun God, double whammy!
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This is something that I knew but had forgotten about, at least to this detail.

Even so, I still think that much more of this entire subject matter is allegorical. I think to the size and scope of the universe and what made it that way and such simple notions such as Saturday vs. Sunday isn't really the point after all. I see this issue as a dichotomy that represents something much more profound than days of the week.

Really, can that which created the universe show us something and allow it to be so easily corrupted that it can be done so by decree and then blame us for not being smart enough to figure it out?
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When you come to know the Father you will understand the importance of the Sabbath. He created it for 'us' and showed us that He rested and we should to. This day was forever to be followed as discussed in Deuteronomy.

The New Covenant explained best in the words of Jeremiah Chapter 31. It has nothing to do with what people 'teach' today.

The Gospel of Phillip quotes Christ as saying, "and those that don't observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath will not see the Father."

So my point is, if The Lord and God of all rested on the Sabbath could you say that a blatant disregard for His most sacred day would be likened to slapping Him on His face? Are you above and better then God now O covering cherub?

Lucifer tried that and we see what the result of that was. Should I suggest not following in His ways.
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I don't go to church but my mother did twice a week for the last 15 or so years of her life. Sundays and Wednesdays.

If you are telling me that God is punishing my mother because she was not aware of what Constantine did or how the Catholics corrupted Christian religious doctrine for the last 1,600 years then of what value is religion. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Somehow I have a problem visualizing God saying, "Sorry. It was Saturday! You lose."

The humans are generally that flippant, why should God be?

I still say the days of the week are not the point of this.
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Think not as literally but figuratively. Constantine hated the true Sabbath and therefore on March 7th, 0321 he declared Sunday the official day of rest in the Roman Empire.

Many 'true' Christians were killed at that point for flat out rejecting 'Sunday' as the day of rest and worship. Jews in particular, that is Jews that had accepted the messiah.

The scriptures were changed accordingly to 'cover up' this fact. Acts being a good example as the original Greek states in Acts 20:7 "unto a Sabbath, unto a Sabbath....."

The lie states, " on the first day of the week the disciples came to break bread." That lie was inserted to cover up the churches sinfulness. And, yes, the church knew exactly what it was doing.

So, if your in the Woman and haven't come out of Her one will be judged according to Her crimes. Why? The words of God state such.

So yes Christians, literally worship the Son of God as a false God because the Son is not the Father, and figuratively because they worship the on the same day as the pagans worshipped their Sun God, double whammy!
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This is something that I knew but had forgotten about, at least to this detail.

Even so, I still think that much more of this entire subject matter is allegorical. I think to the size and scope of the universe and what made it that way and such simple notions such as Saturday vs. Sunday isn't really the point after all. I see this issue as a dichotomy that represents something much more profound than days of the week.

Really, can that which created the universe show us something and allow it to be so easily corrupted that it can be done so by decree and then blame us for not being smart enough to figure it out?
 Quoting: Paddy


When you come to know the Father you will understand the importance of the Sabbath. He created it for 'us' and showed us that He rested and we should to. This day was forever to be followed as discussed in Deuteronomy.

The New Covenant explained best in the words of Jeremiah Chapter 31. It has nothing to do with what people 'teach' today.

The Gospel of Phillip quotes Christ as saying, "and those that don't observe the Sabbath as a Sabbath will not see the Father."

So my point is, if The Lord and God of all rested on the Sabbath could you say that a blatant disregard for His most sacred day would be likened to slapping Him on His face? Are you above and better then God now O covering cherub?

Lucifer tried that and we see what the result of that was. Should I suggest not following in His ways.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I don't go to church but my mother did twice a week for the last 15 or so years of her life. Sundays and Wednesdays.

If you are telling me that God is punishing my mother because she was not aware of what Constantine did or how the Catholics corrupted Christian religious doctrine for the last 1,600 years then of what value is religion. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Somehow I have a problem visualizing God saying, "Sorry. It was Saturday! You lose."

The humans are generally that flippant, why should God be?

I still say the days of the week are not the point of this.
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I am not staying anything, the words of God are crystal clear. They are perfect and to the point. There is nothing to 'interpret' when it comes to His words because of the precision. Read just how He punished Jacob ( Israel) for the transgressions of sins.

Is your mother anymore special then Jacob? Christ warned us about false prophets and sooth Sayers. Even in the times that the Epistles were written false prophets had already appeared.

Paul warns about the first lowest apostasy that occurred in the Roman Church.

Christ warned us about taking the narrow gate. So you can make yourself not unto a sinner by changing and interpreting the word to your benefit, and what will happen?

Enoch tells us, " you will be trodden under the foot into the Earth."

The book of Enoch was the early Bible and from beginning to End it talks about everything from Noah, Christ, to the Great Tribulation.

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Re: The Vatican outlawed The Bible in 1229
The Bible outlawed and Mass and Readings done only in Latin for many years which goes against the words of God. Ever wonder why they, the Baalists, would face East and hold the 'God Wafer' to the Sun?

Satarnalia = Baal = Nimrod = Sun worship

Constantine became in charge of the 'mysteries' when He become emperor. Head of Church and State. Catholicism meaning, 'universal', has been an abomination since. The 'universal' religion of Satan.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


"Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

Jeremiah 7:17–18
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45031794


Yep, the children of Israel went off and committed adultery against their TRUE God. And what did God do? He put them to the 'sword' and their bodies lined the streets as dung. Therefore, what does God think about them? They are dung to Him.

Interestingly enough the 'Queen of Heaven' cakes are still made today in the Roman Church. Disguised, of course, under a different name. Therein lies the 'mystery'

Thank you for your input.
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Yep, exactly, along with their drink during communion to their god as has always been the case. Makes me really sad, my family just buried my grandma.... with her rosary beads in her hands. Now what was that about the traditions of their father's, and something about clinging to it?

Well, good night.





GLP