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New Antidepressant Nearly Identical To Party Drug (Special K)

 
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New Antidepressant Nearly Identical To Party Drug (Special K)
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New antidepressant drug nearly identical to popular party drug

Drug giant Johnson & Johnson (J&J), whose pharmaceutical and medical device products have been implicated in dozens of major recalls throughout the past several years, has announced it will seek approvals from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for 11 new drugs by the year 2017. And one of these new drugs, known as esketamine, contains a compound that is almost exactly the same as the active ingredient in the mind-altering party drug "Special K."

The controversial ingredient is known as ketamine, and while J&J's esketamine for depression is a slightly tweaked version of this psychoactive compound, its effects on the human body are amazingly similar. According to reports, esketamine's psychedelic properties take effect within just a few hours, as opposed to several weeks or even months for standard antidepressant drugs. And if used in excessive doses, esketamine can lead to short-term psychosis.

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How exciting!
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How exciting!
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How exciting!
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Sounds like you're up for a little psychosis.
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As a joke, I asked the doc one time, why can't they put the pain killer from andrinelyn, scuse spell, in a pill form? She said they do, ketamine. Is this the same stuff?
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How exciting!
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Sounds like you're up for a little psychosis.
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A little psychosis would allow us to think like the assholes who call themselves our government.
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I'd imagine its because Ketamine itself was being used in research with promising results as an anti-depressant. I'd honestly rather take a low dose of ketamine than a new chemical analog of it with much much less history of human usage. Its probably going to end up being more dangerous in the long run.
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on my way to the doctor
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Ketamine kills your stomach and kidneys. Do some research on it. If you take it for more than 6 months, you will almost certainly have to have a transplant. Or, In a more serious condition, have to be put on dialysis. It was a problem in India a few years ago, and in small part the UK. The end result was horrific. Just saying. I wouldn't take it.
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I'm sizing up the windows as we speak.
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Well shoot, water (H2O) is nearly identical to hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), so they must be the same thing right!!!
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I thought ketamine was a horse tranquilizer. How is that an anti-depressant?
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I thought ketamine was a horse tranquilizer. How is that an anti-depressant?
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Neigh.
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I thought ketamine was a horse tranquilizer. How is that an anti-depressant?
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Neigh.
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chuckle
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I thought ketamine was a horse tranquilizer. How is that an anti-depressant?
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Neigh.
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lol
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I've had my go around with drugs. When I was a teenager I started drinking and went from that to doing meth/coke/special K/ecstasy. I overdosed at the age of 17 and haven't done those things since, but when I stopped I was diagnosed with a whole slew of issues health problems and mental health problems. I'm agoraphobic with a panic disorder. When I first started having problems with my heart they said I was too young, and since I wasn't honest about my past drug problems they didn't take into account that I had actually damaged my own heart. The doctors immediately started me on Benzos. Since I was having 30 panic attacks a day I was taking several ativan a day and wasn't aware that I was addicted, until I ran out of them and then the panic disorder was worse. SO then they put me on Paxil first. I took a xanax first and fell asleep, when I woke up the paxil made me feel like I was on crack. My heart was racing and it was just an overall terrible feeling. SO then I was put on zoloft. I was on that for a few years. It made me feel a little better. I was eventually able to stop the zoloft but by then I was diagnosed with a bunch of other health problems. Apparently the anti-depressants were masking a much bigger problem in my body. A lot of the anxiety I was having was due to an undiagnosed heart problem. Once that was diagnosed I was put on proper medications to help with that. My heart problems have gotten better. I've since stopped all my medications and felt better, until I passed out from what the doctors told me was a complex migraine. So, I've started the amitriptyline again, that is a more older anti-depressant. It's not as bad.
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HOLY SHIT! ive known people that have done prison time for dealing the illegal drug ketamine, now these bastard drug companies are doing the same thing but making their bosses rich beyond belief!

I have smoked this drug before and it is very powerful, it makes you visually hallucinate, to the point where you will see colored balls of light bouncing around the room, which you actually interpret as sound waves.
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Bearing in mind i have synesthesia already where i see the sound but only in my minds eye, maybe this drug caused my brain to actually project it into my visual field.
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I've had my go around with drugs. When I was a teenager I started drinking and went from that to doing meth/coke/special K/ecstasy. I overdosed at the age of 17 and haven't done those things since, but when I stopped I was diagnosed with a whole slew of issues health problems and mental health problems. I'm agoraphobic with a panic disorder. When I first started having problems with my heart they said I was too young, and since I wasn't honest about my past drug problems they didn't take into account that I had actually damaged my own heart. The doctors immediately started me on Benzos. Since I was having 30 panic attacks a day I was taking several ativan a day and wasn't aware that I was addicted, until I ran out of them and then the panic disorder was worse. SO then they put me on Paxil first. I took a xanax first and fell asleep, when I woke up the paxil made me feel like I was on crack. My heart was racing and it was just an overall terrible feeling. SO then I was put on zoloft. I was on that for a few years. It made me feel a little better. I was eventually able to stop the zoloft but by then I was diagnosed with a bunch of other health problems. Apparently the anti-depressants were masking a much bigger problem in my body. A lot of the anxiety I was having was due to an undiagnosed heart problem. Once that was diagnosed I was put on proper medications to help with that. My heart problems have gotten better. I've since stopped all my medications and felt better, until I passed out from what the doctors told me was a complex migraine. So, I've started the amitriptyline again, that is a more older anti-depressant. It's not as bad.
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Man! That's like fighting a fire with gasoline.
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How exciting!
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Sounds like you're up for a little psychosis.
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A little psychosis would allow us to think like the assholes who call themselves our government.
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lmao except A.I. and the Nobody are really running the human evolution/behavior tests, bonded together by BCI/stimoceiver.her name is alice and she will take you down the rabbit hole if you remain a 2 eyed sheep Nazi/Not See and don't open your 3rd eye and graduate...
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The day that I became aware of the truth concerning 911 I went out on my deck and cried out to God. I couldn't come to grips as to why God would let this happen. I was confused, and wasn't leaving until He answered me. FWIW, this is the passage of scripture He led me to.

Rev 18: 1-18
And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
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The day that I became aware of the truth concerning 911 I went out on my deck and cried out to God. I couldn't come to grips as to why God would let this happen. I was confused, and wasn't leaving until He answered me. FWIW, this is the passage of scripture He led me to.

Rev 18: 1-18
And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Oh fuck off why don't ya?
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The day that I became aware of the truth concerning 911 I went out on my deck and cried out to God. I couldn't come to grips as to why God would let this happen. I was confused, and wasn't leaving until He answered me. FWIW, this is the passage of scripture He led me to.

Rev 18: 1-18
And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Oh fuck off why don't ya?
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Australia? How unusual...
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"..can help relieve major depressive symptoms by potentially forming new nerve cells in the brain that regulate emotion and mood."

I believe that is the important part which you ommited.
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Ketamine kills your stomach and kidneys. Do some research on it. If you take it for more than 6 months, you will almost certainly have to have a transplant. Or, In a more serious condition, have to be put on dialysis. It was a problem in India a few years ago, and in small part the UK. The end result was horrific. Just saying. I wouldn't take it.
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Yes but you're also referring to recreation dosages taken daily for an extended period. I highly doubt they'd prescribe a daily dosage high enough to put you in a K-hole..
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Oh fuck off why don't ya?
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Australia? How unusual...
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


New Zealand. Are you a blind christian apologist too?
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Oh fuck off why don't ya?
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Australia? How unusual...
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New Zealand. Are you a blind christian apologist too?
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I guess so. LOL!
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Oh fuck off why don't ya?
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Australia? How unusual...
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New Zealand. Are you a blind christian apologist too?
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Well, thats the first time I've heard that one before. Stop giving a fuck about what people believe. If someone wants to practice a religion and they aren't causing you any harm why would you give a damn about it?

I don't consider myself a religious person nor am I neccesarily an Atheist but do you really have to berate people for their beliefs?
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It's S isomer ketamine. Antidepressant qualities of NMDA antagonist molecules have been long known. And OP, you just said in response to a question that adrenaline (spelled correctly, also known as epinephrine) is the same as this molecule. Talking about some shit you don't even know about, I see.
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The day that I became aware of the truth concerning 911 I went out on my deck and cried out to God. I couldn't come to grips as to why God would let this happen. I was confused, and wasn't leaving until He answered me. FWIW, this is the passage of scripture He led me to.

Rev 18: 1-18
And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Oh fuck off why don't ya?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 142629


If you don't wanna believe, so be it. Heck, I didn't wanna believe it neither.





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