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Pigeon Peas-a prolific and versatile food crop!! and like Moringa, will be vital in the near future!

 
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Valery, i don't belive, the pigeon peas you sed me just start to sprout in the pots!!!! smile_kiss
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Have fun watching them grow!
 Quoting: lionhound


it was sooo fast!!! I never imagine that!
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It caught me by surprise also
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we have a heat wave in this moment with 38 to 39C during the day and 20C+ in the night so i supposed this is the main reason... my tropical fruit trees are growing fast on this temp. and some are flowering!
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Have fun watching them grow!
 Quoting: lionhound


it was sooo fast!!! I never imagine that!
 Quoting: Luisport


It caught me by surprise also
 Quoting: lionhound


we have a heat wave in this moment with 38 to 39C during the day and 20C+ in the night so i supposed this is the main reason... my tropical fruit trees are growing fast on this temp. and some are flowering!
 Quoting: Luisport


It's a good thing you have diversified your plant portfolio with both tropicals and cold hardy plants. Global warming, new ice age or pole shift, you'll be fine.lol

I am diversified too.
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used to eat them suckers,had to soak em overnight first cos they was rock hard(use them for pea shooters),they was like mushy peas,used to have them in the boozer with bacon in em.also used to call em grey peas.
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Ok you really started something. I did a sneak attack on the kids during a movie. It's been all out war. Tomorrow I will have to pick peas out of the carpet and plant them. Hehe
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Legumes... not sure about those even in a survival situation because of the lectins.

Is there a way to get rid of 100 percent of the elections from legumes?
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Legumes... not sure about those even in a survival situation because of the lectins.

Is there a way to get rid of 100 percent of the elections from legumes?
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yes, if you let them 12 to 24h in whater, or take cover like indian people do
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it was sooo fast!!! I never imagine that!
 Quoting: Luisport


It caught me by surprise also
 Quoting: lionhound


we have a heat wave in this moment with 38 to 39C during the day and 20C+ in the night so i supposed this is the main reason... my tropical fruit trees are growing fast on this temp. and some are flowering!
 Quoting: Luisport


It's a good thing you have diversified your plant portfolio with both tropicals and cold hardy plants. Global warming, new ice age or pole shift, you'll be fine.lol

I am diversified too.
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yes i like diversification and adaptation capabilities of plants are amazing too... so we have to try
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[link to tampa.craigslist.org]

Check out this guy's jaboticaba. He is about 30 min away from me.
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[link to orlando.craigslist.org]

He also has Inga trees.
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[link to www.agroforestry.co.uk]

For us temperate folk.
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[link to www.agroforestry.co.uk]

For us temperate folk.
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Thank you. I hope people will take a look.
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[link to www.agroforestry.co.uk]

For us temperate folk.
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[link to www.agroforestry.co.uk]

For us temperate folk.
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Thank you. I hope people will take a look.
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my pigeon pea sprouts are growing very very fast! Already several leaves...
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my pigeon pea sprouts are growing very very fast! Already several leaves...
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Yes turn your back and they grow inches. Lol
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[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]

Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
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[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]

Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
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WOW!!! What is this? It's a fruit or what? This flower is very beautifull!!!
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[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]

Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
 Quoting: lionhound


WOW!!! What is this? It's a fruit or what? This flower is very beautifull!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


It is a type of hibiscus that flowers in the fall. When the flower dies, the calyx is edible and supposedly tastes like cranberry. It is used in tea. Celestial seasonings "red zinger " I think.

I may or may not get production because of late planting. If I do I will send you seeds for next spring. If not we will have to wait one year :(
I will overwinter a couple of the plants in pots just to be sure because I planted all the seeds I have.
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[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]

Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
 Quoting: lionhound


WOW!!! What is this? It's a fruit or what? This flower is very beautifull!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


It is a type of hibiscus that flowers in the fall. When the flower dies, the calyx is edible and supposedly tastes like cranberry. It is used in tea. Celestial seasonings "red zinger " I think.

I may or may not get production because of late planting. If I do I will send you seeds for next spring. If not we will have to wait one year :(
I will overwinter a couple of the plants in pots just to be sure because I planted all the seeds I have.
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Also you can pop them in the freezer until you are ready to eat them.
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Pigeon peas are an easy way to add to your food security. Pigeon peas are a staple food that provide good protein. Not only are they delicious, they are prolific and easy to grow. Although it is a subtropical plant, it can be grown as an annual in colder climates. It proudces pods with edible peas in eight months and grows 12 ft within a year.

But there's more. This is a nitrogen fixing plant. It improves the soil. It can be used as a cover crop or planted near fruit trees . The branches are used for mulch or can be fed to livestock. Chickens can eat the green peas. (Or cooked peas of course) .

[link to www.tropicalpermaculture.com]

I hope everyone will take a close look at this amazing plant.
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Thank you op. 5 star and then some. hf
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Pigeon peas are an easy way to add to your food security. Pigeon peas are a staple food that provide good protein. Not only are they delicious, they are prolific and easy to grow. Although it is a subtropical plant, it can be grown as an annual in colder climates. It proudces pods with edible peas in eight months and grows 12 ft within a year.

But there's more. This is a nitrogen fixing plant. It improves the soil. It can be used as a cover crop or planted near fruit trees . The branches are used for mulch or can be fed to livestock. Chickens can eat the green peas. (Or cooked peas of course) .

[link to www.tropicalpermaculture.com]

I hope everyone will take a close look at this amazing plant.
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Thank you op. 5 star and then some. hf
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hf
You are welcome!
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[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]

Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
 Quoting: lionhound


WOW!!! What is this? It's a fruit or what? This flower is very beautifull!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


It is a type of hibiscus that flowers in the fall. When the flower dies, the calyx is edible and supposedly tastes like cranberry. It is used in tea. Celestial seasonings "red zinger " I think.

I may or may not get production because of late planting. If I do I will send you seeds for next spring. If not we will have to wait one year :(
I will overwinter a couple of the plants in pots just to be sure because I planted all the seeds I have.
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Well i thank you so much! Ypu are such a friend! I have to see what i will send you too... hf This site on florida survival gardening is amazing... but your weather is even better than mine!
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[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]

Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
 Quoting: lionhound


WOW!!! What is this? It's a fruit or what? This flower is very beautifull!!!
 Quoting: Luisport


It is a type of hibiscus that flowers in the fall. When the flower dies, the calyx is edible and supposedly tastes like cranberry. It is used in tea. Celestial seasonings "red zinger " I think.

I may or may not get production because of late planting. If I do I will send you seeds for next spring. If not we will have to wait one year :(
I will overwinter a couple of the plants in pots just to be sure because I planted all the seeds I have.
 Quoting: lionhound
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you know this one? Germinating a hamburger bean

Here's another shot of the hamburger bean (Mucuna urens) I showed you in my previous post on drift seeds:


And now here it is a week after I sawed a notch in it with a pocket knife, soaked it for a day or two, then put it in moist peat moss and vermiculite:

See the little root peeking out? And how weirdly black and swollen the bean looks? That sucker took on a lot of water (and piercing its seed coat was no easy feat). I replanted the bean after the above picture and let it alone for a few more days... until a shoot rapidly emerged from the ground. And I do mean rapidly! It grew about 12" in a couple of days and started rotating around in a circle looking for something to grasp. It moved so fast that my wife and I sat on the porch and watched it make an entire rotation in about an hour. I stuck a little pole in for it to grab... which it did - and twisted itself completely tight to it within another hour's time.

From what I read, this particular bean grows many tens of feet into the air... reaching the top of tall trees... so I have no idea how I'll be able to keep it contained. I'd like to raise it to a point where it bears beans of its own, but that will mean protecting it from frosts this coming winter.

Here it is now:


Mucuna urens is a close relative of the velvet beans (Mucuna pruriens) I've been growing but it's apparently even more tropical. Who would've thought you could find a bean on the beach and grow it? I picked these things up dozens of times without ever thinking about germinating one. There's a first time for everything, I suppose. And even if this doesn't do anything for my "survival gardener" cred, it's at the very least a rather satisfying experiment.
[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]
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Protecting moringa trees from frost [link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]
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I read somewhere the green pod inside the Florida cranberry calyx can be fed to chickens.
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I read somewhere the green pod inside the Florida cranberry calyx can be fed to chickens.
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you only eat the red calix?
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Protecting moringa trees from frost [link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]
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I will do that for my primary moringa plantings. The others I will make a mound of sand around the base like the citrus growers here in Fla do or a mound of used horse stall bedding. The later will produce heat (hopefully not too much heat, a little risky but worth a shot)
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I read somewhere the green pod inside the Florida cranberry calyx can be fed to chickens.
 Quoting: lionhound


you only eat the red calix?
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The green pod is edible too but I cant wait to try the cranberry calyx. I hope it does taste like cranberries and can be baked into orange cranberry muffins.
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you know this one? Germinating a hamburger bean

Here's another shot of the hamburger bean (Mucuna urens) I showed you in my previous post on drift seeds:


And now here it is a week after I sawed a notch in it with a pocket knife, soaked it for a day or two, then put it in moist peat moss and vermiculite:

See the little root peeking out? And how weirdly black and swollen the bean looks? That sucker took on a lot of water (and piercing its seed coat was no easy feat). I replanted the bean after the above picture and let it alone for a few more days... until a shoot rapidly emerged from the ground. And I do mean rapidly! It grew about 12" in a couple of days and started rotating around in a circle looking for something to grasp. It moved so fast that my wife and I sat on the porch and watched it make an entire rotation in about an hour. I stuck a little pole in for it to grab... which it did - and twisted itself completely tight to it within another hour's time.

From what I read, this particular bean grows many tens of feet into the air... reaching the top of tall trees... so I have no idea how I'll be able to keep it contained. I'd like to raise it to a point where it bears beans of its own, but that will mean protecting it from frosts this coming winter.

Here it is now:


Mucuna urens is a close relative of the velvet beans (Mucuna pruriens) I've been growing but it's apparently even more tropical. Who would've thought you could find a bean on the beach and grow it? I picked these things up dozens of times without ever thinking about germinating one. There's a first time for everything, I suppose. And even if this doesn't do anything for my "survival gardener" cred, it's at the very least a rather satisfying experiment.
[link to www.floridasurvivalgardening.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


I've never heard of it. Soon I will be visiting a south Florida beach where I grew up (gulf side). I will look for drift seeds.





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