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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 42382883 United States 06/27/2013 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? Holy crap. How many times are you going to post this? And if you hate MUFON so much why are you speaking in Pittsburgh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42401920 I will keep posting it as many times as you people keep claiming they are planes ;-) As I stated, I have many friends in Mufon, nothing really againt Mufon, I am against Dis-info. You know I just talked with Eugene who is a Paramedic, A very responsible young man and in my mi9nd a very credible witness, he told me the following... Q to Eugene - So you never confirmed with him you were looking at the same objects? So Tom Wertman is flat out lying then? that sucks. You know I talked to that Bigelow guy a few times, dude, he told me they know they are real Alien craft! A - Eugene Thomas Erlikh - Yes, we never confirmed anything, he just happened to say that planes were out at the same times that I said I saw the lights. But I have filmed many planes out with them pretty much all the time. he (Wertman) was on the phone & looking at the airport not at the sky lol Then he told the rest of the MUFON investigators to look at the airport for incoming planes... and yes you will see planes landing, it's Cleveland! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41462797 United States 06/27/2013 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? Sorry, that's BS. Wertman was on the phone with Eugene confirming which lights he was watching and cross referencing them with flight tracking software and witnesses on the ground. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42405944 United States 06/27/2013 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? Sorry, that's BS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41462797 Wertman was on the phone with Eugene confirming which lights he was watching and cross referencing them with flight tracking software and witnesses on the ground. Not according to Eugene, The FAA, The Cleveland Airports, Etc. it seems like. And where were the witnesses at Not the actual location correct? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42405944 United States 06/27/2013 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? And if you want to know who Bigelow Aerospace is who stated... "In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completely objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator Here is a Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory Episode on Bigelow Aerospace and the Skinwalker Ranch! If anybody where to know the truth, these would be the people! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41317422 United States 06/27/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? And you still haven't answered why you're speaking at a MUFON conference after all your badmouthing of them as disinfo agents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41462797 I thought it was clear clear, some of them, not all of them. As usual. In other words those who disagree with are disinfo agents. Just the kind of attitude that's basically helped ruin ufology. And if you think Wertman's research is bogus, why haven't you or anyone else done their own? Eugene's lights have continued to appear every night for THREE YEARS. Why don't you or some of your famous buddies get some flight tracking software and a laptop and go out there and become famous? They dont because everyone knows they're just planes and no one wants to ruin a good story. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42405944 United States 06/28/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? And you still haven't answered why you're speaking at a MUFON conference after all your badmouthing of them as disinfo agents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41462797 I thought it was clear clear, some of them, not all of them. As usual. In other words those who disagree with are disinfo agents. Just the kind of attitude that's basically helped ruin ufology. And if you think Wertman's research is bogus, why haven't you or anyone else done their own? Eugene's lights have continued to appear every night for THREE YEARS. Why don't you or some of your famous buddies get some flight tracking software and a laptop and go out there and become famous? They dont because everyone knows they're just planes and no one wants to ruin a good story. Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States 06/28/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? And you still haven't answered why you're speaking at a MUFON conference after all your badmouthing of them as disinfo agents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41462797 I thought it was clear clear, some of them, not all of them. As usual. In other words those who disagree with are disinfo agents. Just the kind of attitude that's basically helped ruin ufology. And if you think Wertman's research is bogus, why haven't you or anyone else done their own? Eugene's lights have continued to appear every night for THREE YEARS. Why don't you or some of your famous buddies get some flight tracking software and a laptop and go out there and become famous? They dont because everyone knows they're just planes and no one wants to ruin a good story. Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. Learn a little about aviation Mike. Weather patterns and traffic dictate where they stack planes for approach. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42405944 United States 06/28/2013 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42405944 I thought it was clear clear, some of them, not all of them. As usual. In other words those who disagree with are disinfo agents. Just the kind of attitude that's basically helped ruin ufology. And if you think Wertman's research is bogus, why haven't you or anyone else done their own? Eugene's lights have continued to appear every night for THREE YEARS. Why don't you or some of your famous buddies get some flight tracking software and a laptop and go out there and become famous? They dont because everyone knows they're just planes and no one wants to ruin a good story. Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. Learn a little about aviation Mike. Weather patterns and traffic dictate where they stack planes for approach. I have been down there on the lake hundreds of times, I have seen and filmed them enter and leave the water, Do you understand? Nothing you can say will ever bring me to believe they are airplanes because I know better. And just how do you think these are airplanes, They appear from nowhere, form into formations and slowly hover around, One Orb shows up right down on the water? The footage we have been waiting for! This is a little hard to explain ;-) And the typical explanations that these are Chinese Lanterns or Flares or airplanes do not fit the behavior of these objects in this video at all! The Sphere/Orb of light that appears out of nowhere at 13 seconds into the clip on the left side of the screen begins moving to the East or Right (on the screen) and continues East until it stops dead in it's tracks and then just hovers there near the first object when a 3rd Orb of light appears from nowhere and the three Orbs join into a Triangular formation. Then a 4th Orb of Light appears right down on the surface of Lake Erie. So 3 of these 4 Orbs of Light appeared from nowhere! Ya just Airplanes |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42506347 United States 06/28/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41317422 In other words those who disagree with are disinfo agents. Just the kind of attitude that's basically helped ruin ufology. And if you think Wertman's research is bogus, why haven't you or anyone else done their own? Eugene's lights have continued to appear every night for THREE YEARS. Why don't you or some of your famous buddies get some flight tracking software and a laptop and go out there and become famous? They dont because everyone knows they're just planes and no one wants to ruin a good story. Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. Learn a little about aviation Mike. Weather patterns and traffic dictate where they stack planes for approach. I have been down there on the lake hundreds of times, I have seen and filmed them enter and leave the water, Do you understand? Nothing you can say will ever bring me to believe they are airplanes because I know better. And just how do you think these are airplanes, They appear from nowhere, form into formations and slowly hover around, One Orb shows up right down on the water? The footage we have been waiting for! This is a little hard to explain ;-) And the typical explanations that these are Chinese Lanterns or Flares or airplanes do not fit the behavior of these objects in this video at all! The Sphere/Orb of light that appears out of nowhere at 13 seconds into the clip on the left side of the screen begins moving to the East or Right (on the screen) and continues East until it stops dead in it's tracks and then just hovers there near the first object when a 3rd Orb of light appears from nowhere and the three Orbs join into a Triangular formation. Then a 4th Orb of Light appears right down on the surface of Lake Erie. So 3 of these 4 Orbs of Light appeared from nowhere! Ya just Airplanes ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41317422 In other words those who disagree with are disinfo agents. Just the kind of attitude that's basically helped ruin ufology. And if you think Wertman's research is bogus, why haven't you or anyone else done their own? Eugene's lights have continued to appear every night for THREE YEARS. Why don't you or some of your famous buddies get some flight tracking software and a laptop and go out there and become famous? They dont because everyone knows they're just planes and no one wants to ruin a good story. Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. Learn a little about aviation Mike. Weather patterns and traffic dictate where they stack planes for approach. I have been down there on the lake hundreds of times, I have seen and filmed them enter and leave the water, Do you understand? Nothing you can say will ever bring me to believe they are airplanes because I know better. And just how do you think these are airplanes, They appear from nowhere, form into formations and slowly hover around, One Orb shows up right down on the water? The footage we have been waiting for! This is a little hard to explain ;-) And the typical explanations that these are Chinese Lanterns or Flares or airplanes do not fit the behavior of these objects in this video at all! The Sphere/Orb of light that appears out of nowhere at 13 seconds into the clip on the left side of the screen begins moving to the East or Right (on the screen) and continues East until it stops dead in it's tracks and then just hovers there near the first object when a 3rd Orb of light appears from nowhere and the three Orbs join into a Triangular formation. Then a 4th Orb of Light appears right down on the surface of Lake Erie. So 3 of these 4 Orbs of Light appeared from nowhere! Ya just Airplanes Those lights are BLINKING! Just like aircraft lights. And aren't you supposed to be the emmisary of the aliens? Aren't you supposed to be getting telepathic commu nication about when they appear? And this is the best footage you've got? I've got a hundred bucks that says anybody can go to that beach on any given night and get exactly the same footage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42480082 United States 06/29/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42405944 Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. Learn a little about aviation Mike. Weather patterns and traffic dictate where they stack planes for approach. I have been down there on the lake hundreds of times, I have seen and filmed them enter and leave the water, Do you understand? Nothing you can say will ever bring me to believe they are airplanes because I know better. And just how do you think these are airplanes, They appear from nowhere, form into formations and slowly hover around, One Orb shows up right down on the water? The footage we have been waiting for! This is a little hard to explain ;-) And the typical explanations that these are Chinese Lanterns or Flares or airplanes do not fit the behavior of these objects in this video at all! The Sphere/Orb of light that appears out of nowhere at 13 seconds into the clip on the left side of the screen begins moving to the East or Right (on the screen) and continues East until it stops dead in it's tracks and then just hovers there near the first object when a 3rd Orb of light appears from nowhere and the three Orbs join into a Triangular formation. Then a 4th Orb of Light appears right down on the surface of Lake Erie. So 3 of these 4 Orbs of Light appeared from nowhere! Ya just Airplanes ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42405944 Actually they are not there every single night, So did the airports shut down on those nights? They did not show up for an entire year at one point, nothing at all, I guess the Airport closed for a year ;-) Believe what you want, even if it is wrong I guess. Learn a little about aviation Mike. Weather patterns and traffic dictate where they stack planes for approach. I have been down there on the lake hundreds of times, I have seen and filmed them enter and leave the water, Do you understand? Nothing you can say will ever bring me to believe they are airplanes because I know better. And just how do you think these are airplanes, They appear from nowhere, form into formations and slowly hover around, One Orb shows up right down on the water? The footage we have been waiting for! This is a little hard to explain ;-) And the typical explanations that these are Chinese Lanterns or Flares or airplanes do not fit the behavior of these objects in this video at all! The Sphere/Orb of light that appears out of nowhere at 13 seconds into the clip on the left side of the screen begins moving to the East or Right (on the screen) and continues East until it stops dead in it's tracks and then just hovers there near the first object when a 3rd Orb of light appears from nowhere and the three Orbs join into a Triangular formation. Then a 4th Orb of Light appears right down on the surface of Lake Erie. So 3 of these 4 Orbs of Light appeared from nowhere! Ya just Airplanes Those lights are BLINKING! Just like aircraft lights. And aren't you supposed to be the emmisary of the aliens? Aren't you supposed to be getting telepathic commu nication about when they appear? And this is the best footage you've got? I've got a hundred bucks that says anybody can go to that beach on any given night and get exactly the same footage. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15024097 Canada 08/10/2014 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Regarding The Lake Erie UFO's - Do you believe Mufon or their bosses Bigelow Aerospce? Or the Actual Cleveland FAA/Airports of Mufon? Pathetic. Easy fake. For guys who see this often they sure seem shocked. I saw a craft that listened to my plea to turn 180 degrees. Seen a lot as a night worker who runs home. 1 am to 6 am 5 times a week. Seen a few things that I eventually debunked my self. If they record alot why no tripod or 360 swivel head. Nope just another dark shaky easy to hoax video. BTW, ending up on the news these days means little. They screw up info daily yet if they show a video u like it's validation? Even if it was the real deal can you so called men keep calm. It's just another space faring species...could be future humans on a time travel trip. Like I said pathetic. |
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