Why do you still eat meat?

I've been vegetarian for 14 years. EXCEPT for a brief period years ago in which I was prescribed painkillers and xanax after a back injury. I feel like being addicted to those two things KILLED my spirituality looking back. And during that time of being spiritually "dead" is when I could eat meat and not care, and even think that it was good for me. Upon getting of of them, I was shocked that I had been able to eat meat so easily and flippantly after so many years of being a strict vegetarian. That is all the verification I need.

I can believe that.
Now I remember reading the Old Testament when I was young. Did not get too far in it (anyone can tell here that I am not a Bible person.) But:
I remember reading of the lifespan of Abraham, Isaac and their children; those people lived 800, 600, 400 years.
It says those people ate only fruits and grains first. After the Great Flood God permitted temporarily to the people to eat the meat of certain type of animals for it took time for the plants to grow ripe enough to be harvested and eaten. It seems somehow this rule have been forgotten, they kept eating meat and that was the time, when the life span started to shrink with every generation.

Exactly.

OP, perhaps you are just on the wrong planet and are homesick.

i am a type 1 insulin dependant diabetic

this severely restricts the cabohydrates i can cosume

i use meat to give me some sense of a satisfying meal

now i feel guilty, thank you

OP you are Catholic right? Why are you condemning something that the church does not find sinful? This could qualify as preaching false doctrine, causing guilt over something that isn't actually sinful. Maybe talk with a priest about this before going any further...

Please explain this passage in your theology...


Acts 10 (KJV)


9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Here are a few quotes of interest.

Romans 14:1-23

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

Genesis 9:3

Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

Genesis 1:29-31

And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Colossians 2:16

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

1 Corinthians 10:31

So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

1 Timothy 4:3-5

Who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.

Romans 14:2

One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.

WH it's hard to subscribe to the appeal to higher authority (God) you are making in this context because of the questions posed earlier. The animal kingdom and ecosystem is designed to sustain itself through the food chain and consumption of other living things. The ecosystem would collapse if this design was not in place. All species would overpopulate and consume all the vegetation on Earth resulting in mass starvation & extinction of species. The Earth literally cannot support itself without the food chain that's in place.

So why did 'God' create nature to operate in this manner and then you say it's unacceptable to 'God' for there to be flesh consumption? It creates a double standard. Animals eating animals = God's design. Humans eating animals = unacceptable to 'God'??? Are humans separate from nature and above the design? Isn't the line of thinking that we are separate from nature what led us into this mess with regards to pollution and the depletion of natural resources? Our viewing ourselves as separate or outside of nature?

That being said. There is something to be said about a healthy balance & order and there's no doubt that we have strayed far from that ideal. There is probably too much meat consumption in many parts of the world and the treatment of animals in the meat industry is unacceptable. If animals are to be used for food consumption it should be done in a manner that ensures as little suffering as possible.

I am not condemning..I am questioning..
I will speak to my Spiritual Director..but my opinión will not vary on this

If he says not to mention it I wont..but my opinión WILL NOT CHANGE ..

Spiritual Director.........sounds so...........possessing. ......
dont feed the troll people......bible have little meaning to op.

Please explain this passage in your theology...


Acts 10 (KJV)


9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

why do you still breathe?

have you tried no to?

It s easy to make and quick and cheap..many récipes online

If that is your wish and desire; get a bread machine. I got mine for $5 second hand and barely used; there are lots of them second hand and I can't imagine why. Easy, easy, easy. I haven't had store brought bread in over a year now. It does take three hours to bake and for a while you'll have to monitor the moisture level 'till you get used to it. This is the method I use if interested. [link to www.youtube.com]

On a side note, make sure you get a good bread knife. Slicing bread is a bit of a hassle.

Yeah it amazes me people Just Stop wherever they want to....

If one continues Reading the Following verses in there Actual Context you would see the vision was Not to show that Food was Neither clean or unclean But That People Who are Not Jewish are neither clean or unclean.

"And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. " ACTS 10:27-28

Some of the new version Bibles Insert Brackets with "(now all foods are clean)", but the original translations Never Had that it was always about people

If one recalls God Never Changes, The Rules He gave won't change till Heaven and Earth Pass, "Not one Jot"

whoever wrote that hasnt met many vegetarians...lol

Thank you

Many asume that all is translated correctly..and that the text is verbatim..but maybe it is not

Thank you for pointing it out

If you view reality and analyze just using your senses you will in my opinión get a very limited view of things

If you read end time prophecy it states clearly that even the lion will eat Straw..everything will be altered and changed..the whole world

Time itself will stop in my opinión..

Can your senses ..reason and logic comprehend..a continuon (sp) yet Time not passing?
can our senses understand no beginning and no end?


Can your senses understand a body that no longer ages and decays..is hungry or need to drink?

Can your senses understand a total communion of all creation as one..and all together as God

If we continue to use our senses only we will be looking but not seeing..as Christ said

to see we have to use the spirit in my opinión..the eyes of the soul

I drink non fertilized free range eggs...but NO meat..wether free range or not

I have seen how animals love and respond to love..thats enough for my decisión

but I do not want to judge others..I understand how very difficult it is for some to not eat meat

You're saying our bodies won't need to eat or drink yet the lions are going to eat straw? Why would the lions need to eat but we don't? Isn't that contradictory that the animals would need to eat but humans do not?

What about all the people who have alread lived and died? If you believe you're never going to age and live here forever, then you are looking at eternal separation from those individuals who have already passed. Does that sound appealing? Not to me. What about the old people or the children when this magical 'event' happens? Are they going to be stuck at their current ages? So 90 year old will remain 90? 5 year olds will remain 5?

I'm sorry but this comes across as 100% fantasy. It has nothing to do with viewing this with physical senses or using logic/reason - what you are suggesting violates the universal laws of both the physical & spiritual planes that are already in place.

We are all going to continue to age & decay and eventually 'die' - as it was intended. These bodies were NEVER intended to be permanent, only temporary. Our souls are not of this Earth, only our bodies, and that is why we will not stay here forever.

And I have seen how plants love and respond to love...
read the secret life of plants. they scream when other plants get chopped up, we just can not hear them easily...all life is death.

That passes for you as an intelligent response? All your claims as to things God has told you, are clearly based on just your imagination, and not Gods word.

If it was God idea of something GOOd that animals were killed and their flesh eaten

or that any violence was good etc...

why isnt it in the description of Paradise?

why is it SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED..as ABSENT and the CONTRARY ..present?

The prophecies say there will be no more hunger or thirst..but fruits will be eaten..etc..

why? for the taste..for the pleasure NOT because you need the nourishment..or because you are hungry or thirsty

as to the lion eating Straw..it is to indicate that no flesh will be eaten and no life taken..there will be no violence..no agression

the meek will inherit..confirms and ties into this

as to the Universal Laws..there is only one to my knowledge..to Love God above all and everything ..and to love others as yourself..because what you do to others you do to yourself..that is the LAW and the profit

As to the decay of the bodies..it happens because the spirit is not strong enough in my opinión

Christ showed us literally the path of ascensión of the spirit in my opinión..an amazing fete..in such a short time and in those conditions..

The path of ascensión that takes a long long time..shown in a few years..and achieved..

This path is the empowerment of the spiirt over matter..when this happens spirit is master..and as in His body..it brought back to Life his destroyed body..thgrough the grace of God and the power of the spirit..

That is what will be in the Kingdom..in my opinión..Time and Space will not be as we know them here..

Everything will be different and made perfect in my opinión..

What will happen to the elderly? To young children? When will you be reconnected with the spirit of departed loved ones again if you plan to live endlessly on Earth? If they are not here at the time, how will they return? Doesn't that concern you as far as your vision goes?