Why do you still eat meat?

I need my eggs. Ya know a hen only lays eggs for 2 years of its life, it can live for 10 years after that. There is only one option to deal with all those hens, tasty fried hen legs, mmmm.

thanks for bringing it back to topic..lol

Eat BEEF. The West wasnt Won on Salad

if everyone ate salad maybe they wouldnt feel like they needed to fight over something that was given by the creator for free

Have you ever looked into the amount of herbivore animals that are killed every year in order to protect the production of vegetables and grains?

I think that is mans "logic"..to justify suffering some way or another

I still eat meat cause it's good and i'm not a pussy-vegan.

I am a pretty happy guy, who happens to work in an a shop making weapons of war.

Not to long ago i began being able to see the amount of life force/energy contained in objects/matter. When remembering this ability i began noticing the different nutritional levels in foods, especially the fact that meat is dead- contains no life force.

This is the reason i no longer eat meat.

It has no value.

I wonder if you would be so happy if you were at the other end of the manufacturing process..the end result..

very good point..but I would love it if people didn´t eat meat not for selfish reasons but out of love for the animals..that are butchered..that would be nice..because to me it would denote a spiritual awakening..at least in my opinión

I do believe it is an awakening..to me when I was a kid..meat was just meat..I never really liked it but I didnt associate it with the animals I loved so much

then one day I was at a friends farm and I saw a pig being led to be butchered..I saw three men have to carry it..it was fighting for its life..struggling to break free..it was screaming..it sounded like a human..I was shocked utterly totally shocked..that pig knew it was going to be butchere..I do believe that..and it was desperate..absolutely desperate to be saved

That was the beginning..

then when I was 17/18 I decided one day I would stop..and I did

because I love them..alive and happy and free

I never thought about the posible health consecuences everyone that eats meat speaks about..I just stopped..not that I advise you to obviously..each body is different

but I just stopped ..I couldnt care less about the fear mongering regarding not eating meat..I had decided

And I do not regret it one bit

somebody will say, 'then what's the purpose of fangs in humans then, if not to tear into meat?'

gorillas have fangs too, but they don't eat meat and look how strong they are.

This is my personal view and I say this with all due respect and not to judge..but I do view meat eating as totally barbaric..I just simply can´t understand how anyone would even consider putting some dead flesh inside of them..it seems just so ridiculous and not a good idea for many reasons..at least in my opinión

however I do not impose my view on others..and if I have to prepare meat I do..though I feel sick to the core..doing it

I cant even stand at a butchers counter..it is so horrific..

just absolutely awful..in my opinión at least all the above

Op just keep in mind.....in case you notice that the temple/your body.......gets shatered windows/your eyes.......gets weak walls/your immune system.......grinding stones shatered/your teeth. ....and legions dwell in empty quarters/ your deprived brains and neurons misfiring.......and if by that time you still able recognise you have problem.....but still think of " Cain the first vegetarian " as your role model....have some red meat....or atleast organic chicken soup.

Its been 20 years now..but thanks all the same

oh and btw..Cain first vegetarian..oh I wouldnt believe everything you read

Some have a tendency to twist the truth around..I think..or at least that is my opinión

now stop for a minute and ask yourself..why would they depict a vegetarian as the first murderer?



get it?

It would seem to me someone has gone out of their way to hide the..in my opinión..truth..that eating meat is against Gods will..or so I believe


so we have
1. A fruit was the cause of the fall..oh yeah..lol...sure

2. Cain offered the best grain and God was ofended..oh yeah..sure..lol

3.Abel the good guy slaughtered an animal and offered it to God and God was pleased..oh suuuure

4.Cain the vegetarian was the first murderer..oh sure again

now

lets turn that around shall we?

If we turn it around this is what we have
1. Eating dead flesh..killing was the cause of the fall

2.The one that offered the grain was pleasing to God

3.The one that killed and offered the dead meat wasnt

4.The one that offered the grain was murdered by the violent one who had already taken a life

5.The violent meat eating one..was cursed

So lets say the second versión is correct..

this could mean
1.The fallen world is due to the fact that a life/lives were taken..the law was broken...and flesh was eaten

2.The fallen world will end and Eden will be once again..and no life will be taken..and no meat eaten


ok..what have we to back this hypothetical viewpoint..and prophecies?

lets take a look

Well what do you know..seems we have several that would seem to confirm this hypothesis

like I said in a previous post
1. We are told the meek will inherit the earth..meek..that harm nothing and no one..including animals

2.The lion will eat Straw..no meat eating..

3.The lion will lay next to the lamb...no violence

4.We are told in the coming Paradise..the fruits will be eaten..no meat eating

5. The Holy Communion..Christ said it all..it is there right in front of our eyes..but we dont see it..wine=grapes..fruit..bread=wheat..fruits of the earth..instead of flesh..

6.He said he was the perfect sacrifice to end all sacrifices

Think about it..what if this is the original sin..

The TRUTH will set us free

Christ could have eaten a lamb at passover

he could have said..this flesh of the lamb is my flesh..this blood of the lamb is my blood

why didnt He?

he studied everything..even the smallest of details was thought out and contained a valuable message

why did He choose wine? for blood

and bread ..for flesh?

why was it a vegetarian meal composed of the product of the fruits of the earth?

why?

maybe He was telling us many things all in one ceremony..one meal..revealing much knowledge..and revealing many prophecies..and tecahing..and explaining

so much

I personally am 200% absolutely convinced beyond any doubt that THIS is the reason of the fall





finally

:)

Snickrot... you win the thread.

Our stomachs produce enzymes, specifically for digesting animal protein. That should be the end of the biological argument, right there.

+1

Op...shalom.
In no way I would want to offend you but something tells me you a bit lost...I hope im totaly wrong..honestly im. Trying to give you facts and practical arguments is useles sence you set your mind on vegetable diet.
people live to 100 while on meat diet is nothing to you.
people live to 88 on 80% pork/ 10% beff/ 10% poultry is no factor.....I get it....
above folks my relatives and they proccesed most of the animals them self......two grandfathers died with smile on their face and in clear mind surrounded by their children and grand children......my point and my opinion they where healthy physically. ...and spiritualy healthy individuals. This being said there was this constant teaching of us young children and grand children that any living thing from rabit to a cow is LIVING creature and deserves respect.....there was no smiley faces or celebrations when something had to be slaughtered. ...it was a fact of life ...life is not ending...life ...continues life.....you say dead animal is dead meat.....they said life of animal traded for our life......thanks GOD for food.
Ive notice you like to see pure meaning and suspect twisting of practical life stories.....while im telling you that it is very likely that Cain fell in madnes because of his diet his head couldnot work well........I could post you link to research on psychological disorders in relation to vegetarian diet......but I understand you will dismiss that because it doesn't make you feel good......lets put all this aside bible....medical facts....
lets look at a child......yes 2 to 5 year old child.....lets discount breast milk ( I hope you understand where breast milk comes from and would agree it got nothing to do with grass)....so....a child......do you think a child with most pure spiritual / energy/ perseption of "good" would simply reject ....womit any bit any notion of meat/death ......no child will take anything thats makes it feel fed....child will consume everything that will help this child to experience this great gift of life. ......you know what child will experience from "Cain's diet"......want to know statistics or horor live stories about infants on vegan diet?
And what about you .....at what point your mind became clear you got to be vegetarian. ...at the moment you stopped being a child.....or the moment you became aduls with polluted mind with vegan fetishism?

To debunk your theory, however, here is a snippet I got from the internet, from body builder Jamie Lewis.

"Gorillas have gigantic guts, which are necessary for them, due to the fact that all of the vegetation they eat needs to ferment as part of the digestive process. Stomach size is markedly different between us and other great apes- humans' stomach small intestine, and colon are 10-24%, 56-67%, and 17-23% of total gut volume in humans, while for orangs and chimps it is 17-20%, 23-28%, 52-54% in orangs and chimps, respectively. In other words, they have massive colons to support fermentation of vegetation, whereas we have comparatively large stomachs, to digest more meat.(Milton, pp 100-102) Humans and chimps split from the same ancestral tree 2.5 million years ago, and spurred on the path to a belly 40% smaller than the mostly vegetarian chimpanzee, and a brain 3 times larger. (Paleo Diet, p 38) Thus, even though early hominids had teeth very similar to the modern gorilla, (EHD 43), modern humans have changed drastically. "

Last Edited by Stoned Goddess on 07/12/2013 12:35 PM

I would like to elaborate more on your post..but just briefly..a childs first food is the mothesr breats milk..then slowly it upgrades to solid food..meat is not given to the babies straight away..it takes time for the babies to be ready to eat meat..wheras the baby can tolerate other natural foods...

I would like to make one point clear :) I am absolutely personally convinced
a.we have been deliberately lied to and deceived..I am not stating I am correct in believing this..but it is my personal conviction..and my mind is made up and no amount of preaching or scripture quoting will ever..,I underline..ever..change my mind

b. I believe the truth has been deliberately hidden and twisted

and as to vegetarian causing mental illness I would like to point out that some of the greatest minds are vegetarians


but especially some of the greatest spirits

being vegetarian shouldnt be in my opinión about the health of the body..I think it should be about the health of the spirit..I fail to see how eating dead decaying flesh can benefit the body and or spirit in any way at all