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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 07/01/2013 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a hunch that one of the keys..the main key to ..Paradise on earth..Eden..is not to eat meat..not to take a life.. Quoting: wildhoney Look at the Gospels..at the Bible..why so much enphasis on what we eat..? The fruits of bthe earth will be eaten in Paradise..again...enphasis on what we eat..dont you find that strange? maybe thats the clue? Im gonna stop you right there, in the bible it says god put animals on this earth so we would have food, ITs in the first few pages. So we had food yes. After the agricultural revolution they aren't needed anymore. what do you think the story of Eden and the Tree of Knowledge was all about? the agricultural revolution was the beginning of the downfall of man. |
artMan
User ID: 41936247 Sweden 07/01/2013 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool charts......NOW ...please be kind and provide charts of relationship between vegetarians and psychological disorders. Surprised. ....don't be . All you are saying is that ignorance is a bliss, nothing new. The people that aspire for higher states of awareness, will have more anxiety about worldly matters, and more prone to eat vegetarian. It has nothing to do with the plant as a food itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42632020 United States 07/01/2013 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eating plants is no different because they are alive too and there are studies proving it. Think about that next time you eat some fruit and veg! Sure fruit can grow back but the plants still feel the pain and unless your picking it off the ground it still contains their young (seeds). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41054112 Compare your feelings to that of a bush good sir. Compare your feeling to that of a castrated hog good sir. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39877583 United States 07/01/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a hunch that one of the keys..the main key to ..Paradise on earth..Eden..is not to eat meat..not to take a life.. Quoting: wildhoney Look at the Gospels..at the Bible..why so much enphasis on what we eat..? The fruits of bthe earth will be eaten in Paradise..again...enphasis on what we eat..dont you find that strange? maybe thats the clue? Im gonna stop you right there, in the bible it says god put animals on this earth so we would have food, ITs in the first few pages. So we had food yes. After the agricultural revolution they aren't needed anymore. |
gncnew
User ID: 4568185 United States 07/01/2013 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a hunch that one of the keys..the main key to ..Paradise on earth..Eden..is not to eat meat..not to take a life.. Quoting: wildhoney Look at the Gospels..at the Bible..why so much enphasis on what we eat..? The fruits of bthe earth will be eaten in Paradise..again...enphasis on what we eat..dont you find that strange? maybe thats the clue? Plants are life Don't judge people's action or motives in circumstances you've never experienced. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42636667 United States 07/01/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because the elite wanta me to be a vegetarian and i always do the opposite of whatever it is they are pushing Quoting: Levski Kudos to you! Life feeds on life. I will agree that most people need to get more fresh raw fruits and veggies into their diet. It is only natural to do so ,but human evolution is the result of a diet high in animal protein. For hundreds of thousands of years we have lived off of fruits, vegetables, nuts, roots, eggs, and meat. As we increased our meat consumption we evolved larger brains and advanced our methods of hunting animals. We never let go of the gathering aspect but increased the hunting to further our species. There is nothing good to come of a diet high in carbohydrates. The agricultural revolution has been the downfall of human heath. The elite want you to live off of grains so that you will be dependent upon their heath care system. As time progresses we will become a race of obedient dim witted cattle under the control of the powers that be. To those of you who think fake soy and seitan based meat substitutes are great, sure they taste just fine, as does the shit being sold as meat from the fast food industry. I was a strict vegan for 13 years. I thought I was eating healthy. The slow progression of ill affects brought on by my diet finally reached an apex and I made the switch back to a paleo diet. Organic raw fruits and vegetables, greens, grass fed meats, hormone and antibiotic free meat; most of all, avoiding all grains. I feel better than I have in a long time. Health issues subsiding. Fat melting away, muscle mass increasing, better sleep, more sustained energy. Dont bee fooled. They want you eating their GMO grains. It is in their best interest. |
Downer
User ID: 35983527 United States 07/01/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eating plants is no different because they are alive too and there are studies proving it. Think about that next time you eat some fruit and veg! Sure fruit can grow back but the plants still feel the pain and unless your picking it off the ground it still contains their young (seeds). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41054112 Compare your feelings to that of a bush good sir. Compare your feeling to that of a castrated hog good sir. Im a vegetarian dude. While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior. - Henry C. Link |
gncnew
User ID: 4568185 United States 07/01/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you are saying is that ignorance is a bliss, nothing new. Quoting: artMan The people that aspire for higher states of awareness, will have more anxiety about worldly matters, and more prone to eat vegetarian. It has nothing to do with the plant as a food itself. Seriously brah... this is probably one of the more lame excuses and attempts to deflect inconvenient information I've seen in awhile. Why do you think we have the incisors in our mouth? They're not good for chewing plants or cracking nuts.... only good for tearing meat. Don't judge people's action or motives in circumstances you've never experienced. |
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gncnew
User ID: 4568185 United States 07/01/2013 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eating plants is no different because they are alive too and there are studies proving it. Think about that next time you eat some fruit and veg! Sure fruit can grow back but the plants still feel the pain and unless your picking it off the ground it still contains their young (seeds). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41054112 Compare your feelings to that of a bush good sir. Compare your feeling to that of a castrated hog good sir. I'd rather make him bacon and not worry about how he feels after he's been castrated. Don't judge people's action or motives in circumstances you've never experienced. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 07/01/2013 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a hunch that one of the keys..the main key to ..Paradise on earth..Eden..is not to eat meat..not to take a life.. Quoting: wildhoney How do you plan on convincing the animals and natural predators to stop consuming one another? Or will it still be paradise on Earth despite the fact that the animals will still have to kill and eat one another to live? |
Downer
User ID: 35983527 United States 07/01/2013 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because the elite wanta me to be a vegetarian and i always do the opposite of whatever it is they are pushing Quoting: Levski Kudos to you! Life feeds on life. I will agree that most people need to get more fresh raw fruits and veggies into their diet. It is only natural to do so ,but human evolution is the result of a diet high in animal protein. For hundreds of thousands of years we have lived off of fruits, vegetables, nuts, roots, eggs, and meat. As we increased our meat consumption we evolved larger brains and advanced our methods of hunting animals. We never let go of the gathering aspect but increased the hunting to further our species. There is nothing good to come of a diet high in carbohydrates. The agricultural revolution has been the downfall of human heath. The elite want you to live off of grains so that you will be dependent upon their heath care system. As time progresses we will become a race of obedient dim witted cattle under the control of the powers that be. To those of you who think fake soy and seitan based meat substitutes are great, sure they taste just fine, as does the shit being sold as meat from the fast food industry. I was a strict vegan for 13 years. I thought I was eating healthy. The slow progression of ill affects brought on by my diet finally reached an apex and I made the switch back to a paleo diet. Organic raw fruits and vegetables, greens, grass fed meats, hormone and antibiotic free meat; most of all, avoiding all grains. I feel better than I have in a long time. Health issues subsiding. Fat melting away, muscle mass increasing, better sleep, more sustained energy. Dont bee fooled. They want you eating their GMO grains. It is in their best interest. I try so hard to stay with fresh fruits and vegetables but it's not easy when you are trying to do it for a family so yeah we do end up eating a lot of grains. I agree they are terrible for you but I do what I can and I'm figuring more out as I go. While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior. - Henry C. Link |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24633450 United States 07/01/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39395292 United States 07/01/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you ever hear of the food chain? All life forms usually consume a life form "below" them. But to make death more acceptable once in a while a life form will consume a life form "above" them. We humans do not like this NOW but 50,000 years ago it was common. Please don't worry about eating meat; what we should be worrying about is the Rothschilds et al consuming their fellow human beings. We non-Rothschilds could go extinct before it is all over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42632020 United States 07/01/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450 What bible you read? 1st vegetarian to go NUTS(No pun intended) was cain...... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42636667 United States 07/01/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because the elite wanta me to be a vegetarian and i always do the opposite of whatever it is they are pushing Quoting: Levski Kudos to you! Life feeds on life. I will agree that most people need to get more fresh raw fruits and veggies into their diet. It is only natural to do so ,but human evolution is the result of a diet high in animal protein. For hundreds of thousands of years we have lived off of fruits, vegetables, nuts, roots, eggs, and meat. As we increased our meat consumption we evolved larger brains and advanced our methods of hunting animals. We never let go of the gathering aspect but increased the hunting to further our species. There is nothing good to come of a diet high in carbohydrates. The agricultural revolution has been the downfall of human heath. The elite want you to live off of grains so that you will be dependent upon their heath care system. As time progresses we will become a race of obedient dim witted cattle under the control of the powers that be. To those of you who think fake soy and seitan based meat substitutes are great, sure they taste just fine, as does the shit being sold as meat from the fast food industry. I was a strict vegan for 13 years. I thought I was eating healthy. The slow progression of ill affects brought on by my diet finally reached an apex and I made the switch back to a paleo diet. Organic raw fruits and vegetables, greens, grass fed meats, hormone and antibiotic free meat; most of all, avoiding all grains. I feel better than I have in a long time. Health issues subsiding. Fat melting away, muscle mass increasing, better sleep, more sustained energy. Dont bee fooled. They want you eating their GMO grains. It is in their best interest. I try so hard to stay with fresh fruits and vegetables but it's not easy when you are trying to do it for a family so yeah we do end up eating a lot of grains. I agree they are terrible for you but I do what I can and I'm figuring more out as I go. It is hard to abstain from grains. Just remember, everything in moderation. Lets face it, eating healthy is expensive and inconvenient in our culture. You have to put forth and honest effort and have discipline. A good rule of thumb is to not eat anything that can not be consumed raw. You vegetarians/ vegans, I challenge you to eat raw wheat. Go ahead. The fact remains that most vegetarians and vegans live off of wheat gluten and soy protein. And those who claim that meat can not be safely consumed in its raw state, you are right. The commercially processed corn fed antibiotic and hormone injected meat that you find in the local market is a disgusting mutation of what meat should be and it is processed in an even more disgusting manner. Our factory farmed meats are awash in feces. The truth is, a naturally raised animal that has been killed and processed with care can safely be eaten in its raw state. Name one grain that you can say the same for. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24633450 United States 07/01/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450 What bible you read? 1st vegetarian to go NUTS(No pun intended) was cain...... Lol. Well YHWH is the meat eater, mankind was meant to eat only the fruit of trees, 'to you they will be like meat" - the Elohim did not allow meat for humans until Noah got off the boat. Keep in mind I take the above with a grain of historical salt, humans have been around for millions of years according to archaeology. But I still 'get' what Jesus was saying. |
Downer
User ID: 35983527 United States 07/01/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you ever hear of the food chain? All life forms usually consume a life form "below" them. But to make death more acceptable once in a while a life form will consume a life form "above" them. We humans do not like this NOW but 50,000 years ago it was common. Please don't worry about eating meat; what we should be worrying about is the Rothschilds et al consuming their fellow human beings. We non-Rothschilds could go extinct before it is all over. humans invented the food chain. While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior. - Henry C. Link |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18401048 United States 07/01/2013 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you ever hear of the food chain? All life forms usually consume a life form "below" them. But to make death more acceptable once in a while a life form will consume a life form "above" them. We humans do not like this NOW but 50,000 years ago it was common. Please don't worry about eating meat; what we should be worrying about is the Rothschilds et al consuming their fellow human beings. We non-Rothschilds could go extinct before it is all over. humans invented the food chain. no, we did not. we put a name on it but ecosystems (and the food chains in them) existed long before we arrived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42636667 United States 07/01/2013 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well yes and no. Complex carbs good; simple man made carbs bad; table sugar poison; HFCS death. Exactly. I agree wholeheartedly. But I am talking about the western diet. So I figured it went without saying. But I should have been more thorough. Walk the perimeter in the grocery store, there is no real food down any of those isles. |
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reader9
User ID: 22918479 United States 07/01/2013 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450 What bible you read? 1st vegetarian to go NUTS(No pun intended) was cain...... Yeah, Cain's rejected agricultural sacrifice is kinda interesting. reader |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24633450 United States 07/01/2013 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450 What bible you read? 1st vegetarian to go NUTS(No pun intended) was cain...... Yeah, Cain's rejected agricultural sacrifice is kinda interesting. YHWH loved the smell of BBQ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42637409 Ireland 07/01/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450 The sacrifices are prophesied to be started again just before Yeshua comes back and the people are commanded to eat the sacrifices so who's the real dimwitted idiot? Herp. |
SunnyDaze
User ID: 25159884 United States 07/01/2013 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we all kill to eat ... get over your self-righteousness and admit it ... you pull plants out of their environment by the roots, and eat them while they are still alive (or they wouldn't have any nutritional value) unless you are growing your own veggies they aren't "organic" - don't kid yourself either - anything massed produced (even for Trader Jacks or Whole Foods) just ISN'T organic - it may not be GMO but its produced from hybrid seeds - the stuff you get from the "farmer's markets" is not even local and not hardly organic - you just want to believe it is there is no advantage to being a vegetarian - spiritually or physically, and with all the supplements vegans have to buy to maintain their health, it is twice as expensive (if you are not growing your own) Vegans are just as obnocious as the homos ... they think that they have to Announce their personal preferences to everyone ... I don't care what you eat ... eat whatever you want - and DO UNTO OTHERS - when it comes to diet, as you would have them do unto you ... STFU - yes I have tried - for years at a time - its really NOT worth the effort ... just another attempt at getting "special" attention IMO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41158988 Canada 07/01/2013 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grass fed beef cannot be beat. Cain did not like ranchers either. I guess he was tired and pale, possibly losing his mind due to lack of meat. Eat your fats correctly or you shall perish. Follow the national food guides and you shall perish. If you don't eat what the body requires you will be a fat diabetic unhealthy useless idiot. God bless the beef eaters! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24633450 United States 07/01/2013 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what the op understands that most of the dimwitted idiot chritians here never even see in their precious gospels, is that Jesus vision of returning to the kingdom of heaven was not some pie in the sky bullshit, but returning to the edenic statute per flood era, where humans were indeed vegetarians, he was skipping over Moses and the Israelites to back to Eden. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450 The sacrifices are prophesied to be started again just before Yeshua comes back and the people are commanded to eat the sacrifices so who's the real dimwitted idiot? Herp. When I led your ancestors out of Egypt, it was not burnt offerings and sacrifices I wanted from them. Jeremiah 7:22 Herp. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 07/01/2013 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why didnt Christ eat lamb at the passover? Quoting: wildhoney Why did he eat bread (fruit of the earth)? and drank wine(fruit of the earth)? Why did he say he was the lamb to END all sacrifices? what if he meant it besides what we have been taught..also..LITERALLY.. ? He had no special dietary restrictions when growing up so most likely ate the things his parents and siblings ate. And people ate meat then. God said it was ok to eat it after Noah's flood as long as the blood(the life) was drained out of it. He wouldn't have said to do it if it was bad for us. So do what you want to do but don't impose your conscience on other people. |