Why do you still eat meat?

I dont think we were taught..I think it was choice and circumstance due to spiritual ignorance..or darkness..call it the fall..thats my belief

As to race which is vegetarian..

I dont have any knowledge of any race that ever was vegetarian..doenst mean they wouldnt survive..means it hasnt been tried yet..which again in my view confirms that maybe this situation is precisely main part of the pickle we are in

What got me pondering is the story of Cain and Abel

with all due respect..if ever I read bullshit that to me was it

to think that God would prefer a live animal to be slaughtered instead of the best fruits and crops of the earth is absolutely amazing in my view

so I though..Bullshit..

then I thought..now why would someone bullshit about this?

the reply I found was..to hide the truth..at least in my opinión

that eating flesh and taking a life displeases and is abhorrent to God..at least this is what I think

So I pondered further and went looking for more bullshit

and I thought of that Apple..hmmm

didnt make sense

especially when in the Paradise it says fruits will be eaten

so why mention Apple?

and I thought

to totally hide the fact that it wasnt vegetable life form at all..not fruit..but flesh

by making everyone focus on APPLE APPLE FRUIT

it was hiding the opposite..FLESH::MEAT::KILLING

thats my opinión anyway..not saying I am right

just ponedring

If I am right..I think we may have the biggest conspiracy staring us right in the face

plants are alive too, vegatards, eat that

WH that user has a point. Your description of 'paradise on Earth' where all the animals do not eat eachother and just eat vegetation is not achievable nor realistic. The ecosystem cannot function that way. If all the land-based species were to only consume vegetation, the ecosystem would die because all the species would overpopulate themselves and consume all the vegetation. There would be no balance in the fragile ecosystem because there would be no means for controlling the population growth and things would quickly escalate out of control.

It's nice that you are idealistic and your motivation is good but you have to also be realistic and come to grips with the design of this physical world we are experiencing. Nature by design is based on consumption of other living things (which includes the animals eating one another). It literally could not exist without this system of operation in place.

Whether or not humans 'need' to eat meat is a different story but the animals will ALWAYS need to live the way that they do. That's how they were designed.

As far as we know there has NEVER been a CULTURE as opposed to a SECT that has been 100% vegan.

Most cultures get at least 5% to 10% of their calories from animal life to include slugs and insects et al.

You can live on raw milk and organic eggs and almost nothing else for years.

I understand your point of view..it makes sense

but sense is not what its about in my opinion

it doesnt make sense that a man can walk on wáter..or turn wáter into wine..or resurrect from being crucified

many things dont make sense to our logic and reason

but logic and reason can barely explain what the senses percieve..let alone begin to comprehend what the senses dont

this is about something else

the world of the spirit..the power of the spirit..the divine

It isnt me that says that there will be no killing or eating meat in the coming Paradise..its the end time prophecy

repeated..with the prophecy of the meek inheriting

if we want to fully understand where we are..who we are..what we are to become..what we are to do and how to live..I think we should look beyond that which our senses percieve and our logic and reason tries to explain..otherwise we will remain anchored in a limited versión of reality

This is about transforming where we are and who we are..and logic and reason can never do this in my opinion

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We must remember this is how nations are destroyed and this nation is sure being destroyed.

The same brutes in power pushing veganism just murdered one to two million Iraqis.

How much safer is it to get covertly rid of the "excess population" by feeding them in a manner that will cause them to have short lives than to openly bomb their village?

Jesus caught fish along the shores... to feed the people.

I eat meat because it is natural for a human being to consume it. My eyes are in the front of my head. I am not a herbivore. I have canines, do you? ( These are not stomach and eye teeth or any other idiot description you can find on the net.)

So if God says, that vegetarianism weakens your faith and spiritual walk, why then, would I let a vegetarian, try to convince me, that vegetarianism spiritually strengthens you, when God clearly says it doesn't?

Isn't that counter intelligent?

This speaks of spiritual things, rather than food... though if it were wrong to eat animals flesh it would not be used as an analogy.

Because it tastes nice, Why do you eat meat flavoured tofu?

Because, I feel like i'm dying if I don't.

Better question, do you eat bread? Cause it would be pointless, in fact, counter active if ate bread and not meat. I'd think you're retarded. But, to each their own.

And if you want to know how humans have been surviving for the past few millennia, it's called paleo. Only eating things of the earth such as, nuts, berries, meat, fruits, vegetables. But, not bread or milk.

The real question is, why aren't you paleo?

But, I mean, christ did eat fish and bread. But, that was before hybridized wheat.

I eat meat becuase the temperate rainforest in which I dwell is hostile to farming/gardening. I eat meat because that is what makes sense here. One size fits all environmentalism doesn't wear well nor fit everyone.

Because it tastes delicious and I'm a firm believer in a balanced diet...which includes meat.

And no, I haven't tried not to. In our modern day and age, you can afford the be vegetarian....but, what if all that is gone? It may be someday. And you may need to eat meat just to survive...

I try to prepare my body for those days. I grow a lot of my own food, I have learned to hunt and prepare all sorts of animals, I have learned how to scavenge for consumable plant life in both urban and wild environments...I have gone weeks without food, days without water...

It's fun and it could be useful in the future. I hope not..

Here's a question for you. When you speak about the 'coming Paradise', it sounds as though you feel it will happen in your lifetime? How do you know that you, I, or anyone else that's currently alive will be around to experience this? How many generations of followers have lived and 'died' and not experienced this prophesized 'paradise'???
What is to stop this prophecy from continuing to fail to materialize for the future generations? But how does one reason why it hasn't happened yet after a couple thousand years and what if it continues not to happen in the coming generations? Keep the belief going indefinitely?

I'll take you up on your offer. This is a limited version of 'reality' because we are NOT these physical bodies but are merely having a temporary physical experience here just as the animals you see killing and consuming one another are not their physical bodies. The spirit that inhabits the physical vessel of all living things cannot be harmed and cannot be destroyed. This physical lifetime is all but a blink of an eye in the grand scheme of an infinitely larger external existence of untold dimensions to be experienced by the spirit (energy).

If your perception is based on your physical eyes, you will continue to feel helpless and sad about the nature of the consumption that rules this planet, if your perception is based on your spiritual eyes, you will come to grips with the fact that the ecosytem was designed to operate in the manner in which it does and the animals will always continue to kill and consume one another for the rest of this planet's existence. It can't be changed. You'd have to ask 'God' to redesign all the animals and provide a method of animal birth control lol.

How do you know that the spirit that inhabits human physical bodies did not sign up for this temporary experience knowing full well what it entailed? How do you know that the spirit that inhabits the physical vessels of animals did not sign up for theirs? If no one signed up for these experiences then you will have to ask 'God' why 'God' designed an Earth with a fragile ecosystem and an animal kingdom that is designed to consume itself to maintain balance and sustain itself. It was not designed to operate any other way. You can go mad thinking there is a way around this or you can choose to filter your perception through the perspective that this physical world is a temporary reality that is being experienced by indestructible spiritual energy that is not of this physical world and will ultimately move on or back to higher orders of existence.

I'm not saying this perspective is a license to run around and destroy things needlessly - but you can't wave a wand and fix the Earth and stop every human, animal, and tree/plant from being harmed or consumed in this lifetime. You can't make 'paradise on Earth' when the animals and the ecosystem are not designed to support such an endeavor. It's a nice thought, I'll give you that, but not one that is based on a physical nor spiritual reality. If you want that type of 'eden' or 'heaven on Earth' you're going to have to incarnate elsewhere on another planet or hope to enjoy it in the spiritual dimension(s) when you move on from this temporary physical experience you are having right now.

Wearers of silk and eaters of chocolate enslave children. If we did not do these things child silk workers and cacao pickers would be free. The cane sugar in our kitchens was probably harvested by exploited men and boys who should be in elementary school, not swinging machetes.

None of us have clean hands. If you drive a car, you have killed arab children. If you drink a coca cola you have destroyed lives around the World.

I used to fight for my innocence. I was a vegetarian. I would not buy or consume the worst offending corporations. I did not befriend boys whose ambitions were to work for those corporations.

I dont know i changed. Friday I saw a mj cover claiming meat factories grind live animals. My last stop before home I bought ground beef and a small steak. It is a terrible thing, to become immune to horror. But of course eating death and fear and pain makes us less sensitive to death and fear and pain. I was once so exquisitely sensitive. I doubt I could survive like that again.

Different people are at different levels of spiritual awakening. I understand you want to nudge it along by encouraging a higher vibrational diet, but it will happen on it's own.

As an increasing number of people awaken they with come to realize that eating animals and animal products no longer resonate with them.

I like Teal Scott's approach. She sort of says pushing veganism is putting the cart before the horse as it may be too distracting of a change for many to aline with it.

WTF? Spirituality is as make belief as religion. If you could actually communicate spiritually it would technically be another sense. But unfortunately you are a human and only have 5 senses. Spiritual people are similar to kids who believe they turn into super sayan like goku from dragonball z. Seriously some teenager honestly thought he was like goku and could bench 700 pounds with one hand.

I don´t

If God didn't want us to eat meat, then why did he make animals taste so good?

I have tried not to, but had some bad experiences with that. I'm a meat eater, and that can't change. I also believe animals were put here for food for all people. By denying myself a nice meal, I'm saying God is wrong. Look at all the people who go hungry, do they have a choice to choose? I salute those who can not eat meat for religious purposes, or due to health related issues. But to me, it's staying on the menu for now.

I do a ceremony of thanks for every meal I've eaten. In Judaism if you don't use what you take, it's considered hurtful to the soul of the animal. The animal is incarnating each life, so you will be fed. If the animal is wasted, then this will return back to you in the next life. It also elevates the soul of the animal, so it can reincarnate to another life (better then the last).

Because I am an omnivore!

opportunivore here...

Romans 14

Love and encourage All, that they might be changed in the Christ, giving up what is good for the better in truth,
As every face is different so is every heart... And the Lord is the Lord of them All)