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and I am not a dude I am a female
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Oh vomit

More christian bullshit, if you say a word about our lord you are going to burn forever.

SEE EVIL
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 Quoting: Lamplite


Prophecies tell us that a harvest is coming..Christ spoke about it too

Where there will be a separation between the wheat and the chaff..

Ones will reap the reward of being love by recieving love

the others will recieve what they ahve given out..and not be part of the harmonious paradise ..

it is not Gods doing

we do it to ourselves

we choose what happens to us by how we live our life..by being love..or not being love

we determine our own fate

so why do you choose to insult and show hatred towards Christ who is Love?

you are free to not believe..but why insult and hate him?

what is this doing to you spiritually?

you arent doing anything to Him ecause you simply cant

just like when they nailed Him..they joped they could destroy Him but they didnt even manage to destroy His body let alobe His message

so why are you doing it?

he will still be Christ

His words will live on because he has a power you will nevre understand

so why do this to yourself,,because you are not doing anything at all to him..because you simply cant

isnt it a waste of your time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


dude, we cant even prove his EXISTENCE and yet you still try to say we need to follow and respect his "name"?

Bullshit.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


I have sufficient proof. To some no proof will ever be enough because they dont want to believe..because if they believed it would alter their lives in ways they wouldnt want to. They would have to live or try to live inaccordnance to his tecahings and that isnt easy in this vile world, so they prefer to say he is a myth while they keep their fingers and toes crossed and tap their heals together and hope they are right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


And what "proof"? Josephus was a forgery and alot of other lit about the christians is not only AFTER the date of AD 80, but those literature cant even agree with each other.

Christianity is bsflag
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I really suggest you stop insulting Him. You could be very wrong andwhat if you are? Your words offending Him could weigh heavily against you.

he is Love in everything..he really doesnt deserve this

he was insulted enough then..maybe its time to stop now
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


Oh vomit

More christian bullshit, if you say a word about our lord you are going to burn forever.

SEE EVIL
.
 Quoting: Lamplite


Prophecies tell us that a harvest is coming..Christ spoke about it too

Where there will be a separation between the wheat and the chaff..

Ones will reap the reward of being love by recieving love

the others will recieve what they ahve given out..and not be part of the harmonious paradise ..

it is not Gods doing

we do it to ourselves

we choose what happens to us by how we live our life..by being love..or not being love

we determine our own fate

so why do you choose to insult and show hatred towards Christ who is Love?

you are free to not believe..but why insult and hate him?

what is this doing to you spiritually?

you arent doing anything to Him ecause you simply cant

just like when they nailed Him..they joped they could destroy Him but they didnt even manage to destroy His body let alobe His message

so why are you doing it?

he will still be Christ

His words will live on because he has a power you will nevre understand

so why do this to yourself,,because you are not doing anything at all to him..because you simply cant

isnt it a waste of your time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


dude, we cant even prove his EXISTENCE and yet you still try to say we need to follow and respect his "name"?

Bullshit.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You already are doing Christs bidding because in your signature you say "love" which is what Christianity is all about.

If you think Jesus Christ is not the king of Love or that he don't exist as creator and Lord, it just means you are muddled up in your thinking and have delusion.

The fact is he still loves you, and he loves when you care towards others.

Imagine going around as a child saying your mommy and daddy don't exist and ignoring when they call you.

It's called an avoidant temperament.
Alive In Jesus Christ
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
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This whole thing is utter crap. Christ was never a real human that EVER walked on the earth. As said before, it was a conglomeration of myths. And another thing, how come all these people are saying that they know christ exists and tries to be the best they can be. Why not just be as good as YOU can be? Even so, if there was no concept called "christ" even then there would be another name for a stupidly worshiped god-man-fellow who really never walked earth. Just do good for goodness sakes. Don't do it to be like another fictitious fairy tale character.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


clappa
 Quoting: Lamplite

It's nice to see a fellow dis believer. Great stuff indeed.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You mean some that can other than the bible. It's not like it's hard to find out its all fake.

Wait you do have to be able to read. :-/
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
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1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


like what? what visions have you had?

Lies? GOD is a lie?

Who made who?

Did you make yourself?
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
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1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
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So not a good day today?

You never told me how your day has been yet.
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My day was fine till I came on here and read all these dumb as fuck posts by Christian retards.
 Quoting: Lamplite


awwwww

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You already are doing Christs bidding because in your signature you say "love" which is what Christianity is all about.

If you think Jesus Christ is not the king of Love or that he don't exist as creator and Lord, it just means you are muddled up in your thinking and have delusion.

The fact is he still loves you, and he loves when you care towards others.

Imagine going around as a child saying your mommy and daddy don't exist and ignoring when they call you.

It's called an avoidant temperament.
 Quoting: fireman2013


What kind of a fucking retarded statement is this?

Love does not exist outside of Christ, is that what you think?

Man you're so deluded.

Relating Christ the imaginary man to ones mommy and daddy who love and cuddle then.

fuckoff2
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Oh vomit

More christian bullshit, if you say a word about our lord you are going to burn forever.

SEE EVIL
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 Quoting: Lamplite


Prophecies tell us that a harvest is coming..Christ spoke about it too

Where there will be a separation between the wheat and the chaff..

Ones will reap the reward of being love by recieving love

the others will recieve what they ahve given out..and not be part of the harmonious paradise ..

it is not Gods doing

we do it to ourselves

we choose what happens to us by how we live our life..by being love..or not being love

we determine our own fate

so why do you choose to insult and show hatred towards Christ who is Love?

you are free to not believe..but why insult and hate him?

what is this doing to you spiritually?

you arent doing anything to Him ecause you simply cant

just like when they nailed Him..they joped they could destroy Him but they didnt even manage to destroy His body let alobe His message

so why are you doing it?

he will still be Christ

His words will live on because he has a power you will nevre understand

so why do this to yourself,,because you are not doing anything at all to him..because you simply cant

isnt it a waste of your time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


dude, we cant even prove his EXISTENCE and yet you still try to say we need to follow and respect his "name"?

Bullshit.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You already are doing Christs bidding because in your signature you say "love" which is what Christianity is all about.

If you think Jesus Christ is not the king of Love or that he don't exist as creator and Lord, it just means you are muddled up in your thinking and have delusion.

The fact is he still loves you, and he loves when you care towards others.

Imagine going around as a child saying your mommy and daddy don't exist and ignoring when they call you.

It's called an avoidant temperament.
 Quoting: fireman2013

Ehh i just love others because i like doing it, NOT because any fictious myth-man told me to. And btw Matthew 10:34 kinda proves you wrong as well...

I say flip god and jesus in the ass even if they did exist because they both together, either fictious or non fictious, have not helped society for the past 2000 years. If "he" was really who or what "he" claimed to be, we would not have had the Spanish inquisition and such...

People are so blind and it makes me so sad...

yeahsure
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I don't need the bible to know GOD's real.

I have an open library written within my own codes unlocked that keep opening up and showing me. I even read with my eyes closed.
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063

The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
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You already are doing Christs bidding because in your signature you say "love" which is what Christianity is all about.

If you think Jesus Christ is not the king of Love or that he don't exist as creator and Lord, it just means you are muddled up in your thinking and have delusion.

The fact is he still loves you, and he loves when you care towards others.

Imagine going around as a child saying your mommy and daddy don't exist and ignoring when they call you.

It's called an avoidant temperament.
 Quoting: fireman2013


What kind of a fucking retarded statement is this?

Love does not exist outside of Christ, is that what you think?

Man you're so deluded.

Relating Christ the imaginary man to ones mommy and daddy who love and cuddle then.

fuckoff2
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 Quoting: Lamplite


It's just giving an analogy. Where do you think the power of love really comes from? It's not from flesh.

It's from Jesus.
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


Listen, I have had Christian after Christian on this board tell me I am going to hell because Jesus wants to burn me forever for not believing in him and the like so excuse me if I can't stand Christians and are sick of their poisonous crap!
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"Forget everything you may have learned in Sunday School. The New Testament was written by Roman patricians, among them The Calpurnius Piso family that was descended from one of the generals in the army of Alexander the Great. The family included such famous people as Cleopatra, the Ptolemys, Pythagoras, Flavius Josephus, and the Roman Emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani.
The great temple at Jerusalem was built by Herod the Great, and utterly destroyed in 70 CE by Titus Flavius Vespasiani. Of course nobody knew it was the year 70 in 70. That date had to be invented by somebody. The Christian calendar set the date at 70, and you will see that it is probable that the Pisos (operating as Church Fathers) created the Christian calendar. Apparently the Pisos were obsessed with Julius Caesar, evidence of which you will see repeatedly in the following text.

It is certain that the Roman emperor Vespasian captured the city of Jerusalem for Rome in 66 CE (Common Era), and the Roman emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani (the son of Vespasian), destroyed the temple there in 70 CE. In fact, both Zela (religious center of Pontus) and Jerusalem were the sites of temples that were destroyed: Julius Caesar destroyed the one in Zela in 47 BCE. The Piso family were aristocrats whose ancestry traced from Zela.

Julius Caesar was an in-law of the Piso family. His wife, Calpurnia, was a Piso. He had married her to cement an alliance with Pontus. When Cleopatra, also a Piso relative, seduced Caesar, it is possible that she was conspiring with her relative Pharnaces II, king of Pontus, to distract Caesar while Pharnaces prepared to wage war against Rome. But Caesar got wind of the activities of Pharnaces and rushed to Pontus with two legions, one of which was almost entirely composed of Judeantroops. Caesar turned the tables on Pharnaces. That defeat probably led to Caesar's assassination, and the eternal hatred of Caesar by the people of Pontus. There is no new historical information here. It is well known that Caesar took two legions from Alexandria to conquer Pontus in 47 CE.

Three years later, Julius Caesar was stabbed to death by Roman senators in the Forum. Several of the conspirators were Piso family members or close relatives.

As an illustration of just one of the hidden messages that exist in the New Testament, consider
Revelation
1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see him; even they who have pierced him." He comes, they see, and they pierce him.

Caesar went to Pontus, they saw him coming in a cloud of dust, and as a result of this they pierced him to death."
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


Listen, I have had Christian after Christian on this board tell me I am going to hell because Jesus wants to burn me forever for not believing in him and the like so excuse me if I can't stand Christians and are sick of their poisonous crap!
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 Quoting: Lamplite

yeah i second that.

The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063

The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You are assuming others believe because they are gullible just because you dont believe. That isnt a logical deduction is it?
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lamplight..at least I show love. I don't speak abusively to anyone, cursing them with F words. That word is never even spoken from my mouth.
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It's just giving an analogy. Where do you think the power of love really comes from? It's not from flesh.

It's from Jesus.
 Quoting: fireman2013


No dumb fuck, it is from your mommy who was real and who placed a tit in your mouth and showed you love and kindness and did not say stupid shit to you like "If you're a bad boy you're going to burn in hell forever."
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lamplight..at least I show love. I don't speak abusively to anyone, cursing them with F words. That word is never even spoken from my mouth.
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Whatever
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063

The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


Christians are not ignorant, that's just a sterotype you projecting on to them. Gay marriage is not the same as heterosexual marriage for obvious reasons. You would have to call it something different from marriage, I would call it an abomination. It's definitely not something equal to marriage.

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1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063

The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You are assuming others believe because they are gullible just because you dont believe. That isnt a logical deduction is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


well its VERY plain to see that the "bible" and "jesus" were fictious MYTHS. I have every right to call everyone who accepts christianity with open arms and closed minds, fools of the highest degree.

You cant be a christian without looking FULLY at the evidence against it and also looking at religion with the same mindset an atheist would.

Go read "godless" by Dan Barker and you will see what im talking about.
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The proof is in us. You don't believe so you will not see it.
 Quoting: New Heart


1rof1 I don't see your delusions and so that's proof.

I see other stuff, better stuff because my mind is not imprisoned by lies.
 Quoting: Lamplite


then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


Listen, I have had Christian after Christian on this board tell me I am going to hell because Jesus wants to burn me forever for not believing in him and the like so excuse me if I can't stand Christians and are sick of their poisonous crap!
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 Quoting: Lamplite


I never believed in hell. I believe we are here on earth to overcome this incarnation. We are not here to party our hearts out, and live it all up. If we don't try to overcome this world, we keep coming back till we do.

This world is the pit. We are in hell.
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Prophecies tell us that a harvest is coming..Christ spoke about it too

Where there will be a separation between the wheat and the chaff..

Ones will reap the reward of being love by recieving love

the others will recieve what they ahve given out..and not be part of the harmonious paradise ..

it is not Gods doing

we do it to ourselves

we choose what happens to us by how we live our life..by being love..or not being love

we determine our own fate

so why do you choose to insult and show hatred towards Christ who is Love?

you are free to not believe..but why insult and hate him?

what is this doing to you spiritually?

you arent doing anything to Him ecause you simply cant

just like when they nailed Him..they joped they could destroy Him but they didnt even manage to destroy His body let alobe His message

so why are you doing it?

he will still be Christ

His words will live on because he has a power you will nevre understand

so why do this to yourself,,because you are not doing anything at all to him..because you simply cant

isnt it a waste of your time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


dude, we cant even prove his EXISTENCE and yet you still try to say we need to follow and respect his "name"?

Bullshit.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You already are doing Christs bidding because in your signature you say "love" which is what Christianity is all about.

If you think Jesus Christ is not the king of Love or that he don't exist as creator and Lord, it just means you are muddled up in your thinking and have delusion.

The fact is he still loves you, and he loves when you care towards others.

Imagine going around as a child saying your mommy and daddy don't exist and ignoring when they call you.

It's called an avoidant temperament.
 Quoting: fireman2013

Ehh i just love others because i like doing it, NOT because any fictious myth-man told me to. And btw Matthew 10:34 kinda proves you wrong as well...

I say flip god and jesus in the ass even if they did exist because they both together, either fictious or non fictious, have not helped society for the past 2000 years. If "he" was really who or what "he" claimed to be, we would not have had the Spanish inquisition and such...

People are so blind and it makes me so sad...

yeahsure
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


well yeah you still are terrible for doing that. And you won't get far with that attitude. I'm not saying you don't act awful. But you are still capable of Love, which means you are not totally demonic yet, so that's a good thing.

Last Edited by fireman2013 on 07/16/2013 05:38 PM
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"Forget everything you may have learned in Sunday School. The New Testament was written by Roman patricians, among them The Calpurnius Piso family that was descended from one of the generals in the army of Alexander the Great. The family included such famous people as Cleopatra, the Ptolemys, Pythagoras, Flavius Josephus, and the Roman Emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani.
The great temple at Jerusalem was built by Herod the Great, and utterly destroyed in 70 CE by Titus Flavius Vespasiani. Of course nobody knew it was the year 70 in 70. That date had to be invented by somebody. The Christian calendar set the date at 70, and you will see that it is probable that the Pisos (operating as Church Fathers) created the Christian calendar. Apparently the Pisos were obsessed with Julius Caesar, evidence of which you will see repeatedly in the following text.

It is certain that the Roman emperor Vespasian captured the city of Jerusalem for Rome in 66 CE (Common Era), and the Roman emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani (the son of Vespasian), destroyed the temple there in 70 CE. In fact, both Zela (religious center of Pontus) and Jerusalem were the sites of temples that were destroyed: Julius Caesar destroyed the one in Zela in 47 BCE. The Piso family were aristocrats whose ancestry traced from Zela.

Julius Caesar was an in-law of the Piso family. His wife, Calpurnia, was a Piso. He had married her to cement an alliance with Pontus. When Cleopatra, also a Piso relative, seduced Caesar, it is possible that she was conspiring with her relative Pharnaces II, king of Pontus, to distract Caesar while Pharnaces prepared to wage war against Rome. But Caesar got wind of the activities of Pharnaces and rushed to Pontus with two legions, one of which was almost entirely composed of Judeantroops. Caesar turned the tables on Pharnaces. That defeat probably led to Caesar's assassination, and the eternal hatred of Caesar by the people of Pontus. There is no new historical information here. It is well known that Caesar took two legions from Alexandria to conquer Pontus in 47 CE.

Three years later, Julius Caesar was stabbed to death by Roman senators in the Forum. Several of the conspirators were Piso family members or close relatives.

As an illustration of just one of the hidden messages that exist in the New Testament, consider
Revelation
1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see him; even they who have pierced him." He comes, they see, and they pierce him.

Caesar went to Pontus, they saw him coming in a cloud of dust, and as a result of this they pierced him to death."
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If i could give you a few THOUSAND ups i would. Well reasearched man.

not to see a "christian" go and actually READ it.
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Famous Quotes of Caesar + Jesus
Caesar Vs Jesus

Quotes taken from work of "Plutarch" and "Gospel of Mark"

Plut. Caes. 34
Who is not on any side, is on my side.
Mk 9:40
He that is not Against us, is on our Part

Plut. Caes. 60
I am not King, I am Caesar
Mk 15:15
We have no King, but Caesar

Plut. Caes. 63
The best death is a sudden one
Mk 14:21
That thou does't (lead me to death), do quickly

Plut. Caes. 68
Have I saved them, that they may ruin me
Mk 15:31
He saved other; he cannot save

Plut. Caes. 50
Veni, Vidi. Vici
Mk 8:24
I came, I washed and Saw

The "Ur-Marcus", or the "Q-Document", was originally the "Passion of Julius Caesar"
but this Passion was scrapped, and re-written/Orientated as the "Passion of Jesus Christ", to
create a Fictional Jewish Hero.
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then why are you so angry and full of hate ? unless I am mistaken

doesnt your "better stuff" give you inner peace?
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The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
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You are assuming others believe because they are gullible just because you dont believe. That isnt a logical deduction is it?
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well its VERY plain to see that the "bible" and "jesus" were fictious MYTHS. I have every right to call everyone who accepts christianity with open arms and closed minds, fools of the highest degree.

You cant be a christian without looking FULLY at the evidence against it and also looking at religion with the same mindset an atheist would.

Go read "godless" by Dan Barker and you will see what im talking about.
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They are not myths and you will soon have to face it. The only reason you want to believe they are myths is so you can do what you like.

But there is consequences to things.
Alive In Jesus Christ
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"Forget everything you may have learned in Sunday School. The New Testament was written by Roman patricians, among them The Calpurnius Piso family that was descended from one of the generals in the army of Alexander the Great. The family included such famous people as Cleopatra, the Ptolemys, Pythagoras, Flavius Josephus, and the Roman Emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani.
The great temple at Jerusalem was built by Herod the Great, and utterly destroyed in 70 CE by Titus Flavius Vespasiani. Of course nobody knew it was the year 70 in 70. That date had to be invented by somebody. The Christian calendar set the date at 70, and you will see that it is probable that the Pisos (operating as Church Fathers) created the Christian calendar. Apparently the Pisos were obsessed with Julius Caesar, evidence of which you will see repeatedly in the following text.

It is certain that the Roman emperor Vespasian captured the city of Jerusalem for Rome in 66 CE (Common Era), and the Roman emperor Titus Flavius Vespasiani (the son of Vespasian), destroyed the temple there in 70 CE. In fact, both Zela (religious center of Pontus) and Jerusalem were the sites of temples that were destroyed: Julius Caesar destroyed the one in Zela in 47 BCE. The Piso family were aristocrats whose ancestry traced from Zela.

Julius Caesar was an in-law of the Piso family. His wife, Calpurnia, was a Piso. He had married her to cement an alliance with Pontus. When Cleopatra, also a Piso relative, seduced Caesar, it is possible that she was conspiring with her relative Pharnaces II, king of Pontus, to distract Caesar while Pharnaces prepared to wage war against Rome. But Caesar got wind of the activities of Pharnaces and rushed to Pontus with two legions, one of which was almost entirely composed of Judeantroops. Caesar turned the tables on Pharnaces. That defeat probably led to Caesar's assassination, and the eternal hatred of Caesar by the people of Pontus. There is no new historical information here. It is well known that Caesar took two legions from Alexandria to conquer Pontus in 47 CE.

Three years later, Julius Caesar was stabbed to death by Roman senators in the Forum. Several of the conspirators were Piso family members or close relatives.

As an illustration of just one of the hidden messages that exist in the New Testament, consider
Revelation
1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see him; even they who have pierced him." He comes, they see, and they pierce him.

Caesar went to Pontus, they saw him coming in a cloud of dust, and as a result of this they pierced him to death."
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If i could give you a few THOUSAND ups i would. Well reasearched man.

not to see a "christian" go and actually READ it.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


Thankyou!!!

hf
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dude, we cant even prove his EXISTENCE and yet you still try to say we need to follow and respect his "name"?

Bullshit.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You already are doing Christs bidding because in your signature you say "love" which is what Christianity is all about.

If you think Jesus Christ is not the king of Love or that he don't exist as creator and Lord, it just means you are muddled up in your thinking and have delusion.

The fact is he still loves you, and he loves when you care towards others.

Imagine going around as a child saying your mommy and daddy don't exist and ignoring when they call you.

It's called an avoidant temperament.
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Ehh i just love others because i like doing it, NOT because any fictious myth-man told me to. And btw Matthew 10:34 kinda proves you wrong as well...

I say flip god and jesus in the ass even if they did exist because they both together, either fictious or non fictious, have not helped society for the past 2000 years. If "he" was really who or what "he" claimed to be, we would not have had the Spanish inquisition and such...

People are so blind and it makes me so sad...

yeahsure
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well yeah you still are terrible for doing that. And you won't get far with that attitude. I'm not saying you don't act awful. But you are still capable of Love, which means you are not totally demonic yet, so that's a good thing.
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Lets not even go there because A. I am loving to those that DONT force their beliefs into laws (AKA DOMA and stuff) and into government facilities. Those ten commandments that were on the front of a FEDERAL prison? Get RID of them.

and B. we cant ever prove demons exist either.
so in effect, i cannot be a "deamon" until it is PROVED they exist.
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The reason why we dislike christianity is because it pains us to see it get preached from the hilltops to thousands of gullible and ignorant people who really would believe ANYTHING you said from when they were born. And when civil RIGHTS like gay marriage and such is taken away or blocked because of religious grounds, we have EVERY REASON TO BE PISSED OFF.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


You are assuming others believe because they are gullible just because you dont believe. That isnt a logical deduction is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43502063


well its VERY plain to see that the "bible" and "jesus" were fictious MYTHS. I have every right to call everyone who accepts christianity with open arms and closed minds, fools of the highest degree.

You cant be a christian without looking FULLY at the evidence against it and also looking at religion with the same mindset an atheist would.

Go read "godless" by Dan Barker and you will see what im talking about.
 Quoting: S3V3RI7Y


They are not myths and you will soon have to face it. The only reason you want to believe they are myths is so you can do what you like.

But there is consequences to things.
 Quoting: fireman2013

Show me PROOF and then ill reconsider.

Try reading "godless" as i said before and come back with a complete list of a refutation to every statement made in there.

good luck.





GLP