Jesus NEVER existed.

What does it feel line living a lie your whole life? Does it feel good because. No matter how often you speak it. It won't be true. Not only did he exist. Historical eclvidence even those that don't believe he was the messiah know and agree with buy he is King also and you will kneel to him soon. Have a nice day.

Note point 1)

The truth about cults and religion in general.

All of them with the exception of a very FEW of them have these traits in common.

1) Ther are ALL convinced THEY are right and all the others are wrong.

2)They are all certain..and voice this much and as often as thay can..that the ones who are "Wrong" will be tortured forever by whatever brand of bi polar sadistic god they worship.

3)They all use fear and terror to control their members
EG:-"Do as this law/teaching/guru/pastor/book/priest/sermon ect suggests or you will be cursed/burned alive forever/smitten/come under demonic attack/end up possessed/ ect.

4)They are all about CONTROL..control of your money..of your mind..of your actions/words/life and they all impose guilt and fear as "punishment" if you dont tow the line.

5)They are all about money..it always comes down to CASH..and if you dont hand it over they label you a "God robber"..you are robbing God..and hus come under the punishments/threats made in point 3.

6)They all use "LOVE" as the bait to get you in..mixed with "Fear" of some sort of terrible DOOM if you dont join them. Thenonce they have you the LOVE stops..and the DOOM increses..till you are left a mindless fear controlled zombie..arrogant and proud and self righteous..who then being fully "Indoctrinated" after a time...then beleive point 1 completely..and proceed to inflict steps 2 to 5 on other prospective victims.

Any religion or creed thast uses these techniques are opertaing under the precepts of what you would term "Darkness"..or "Evil" because evil, by its very nature, runs and feeds and grows stronger on fear and control.

The PTB use these same techniques.

Fear of terroists..the feeling of being "Special" and of the "Elite" if you tow the line..protected by their umbrella of "Control" of almost every aspect of your lves.

Thats because the PTB as you all know by now are all "Luciferian" in nature and practice...and use fear..control..cashflow(So long as its flowing THIER way)..and terrible consequesnces if you dont "Measure up" to their parameters.

So..if the PTB use these same techniques...and you all foster a rather healthy dislike for the way they "Control" things..then why do so many who voice such an opinion of them..end up following the SAME system under the guise of "Religion" which as you can clearly see are all based and run on the percepts of "Evil"?

Lets say for example a person really WANTS to do evil..they lust and fight and hate..they have an evil evil heart..they are greedy..want everything their way..want everything to be all cushy and nice while they do what they WANT to do without concequence.

But then they are told if they do this..some horrible fate will befall them..either outright death or eternal torture in the next life..and curses and trouble in THIS life..

Now..that rocks their boat..they want their cake..and want to eat it. But now the fear factore is brought into it..as they are told if they keep being an evil greedy cunt thay will siffer.

So off they go..looking for an "OUT"..a way to KEEP being selfish and greeedy but never having to face the consequences of it.

So they find a "religion"..out of FEAR of what will happen to them if they dont.


They are still evil on the inside..nothing has changed..but now they think "If I read the bible enough..quote enough scriptures..pray enough and go to church enough..perhaps I can still be a smug self rightous shit..but get to heaven and save my ass."

So its still a SELFISH thing they do..they are still evil..except they have excused their selfishness and evil by being taught the ever popular saying "We are not perfect..just forgiven"

BUT..a GOOD person NEEDS no fear or manipulation to be good to their neighbour and not be a selfish greedy cunt. They dont have to be FORCED into doing what they dont want to do like the evil man has to be. They love people by nature..and do good because good IS already in them.

They dont need the luciferian fear and guilt...as that sort of thing ONLY seems to work on people who WANT to be evil..but without the price that comes with it..death or eternal torture..as they are "Told"

I am not in any religion.

I know Christ though.

I have a picture of Jesus VERY CLEARLY from a Eucharistic miracle from 1994 from South America if you'd want to see it. Very clear. He does exist, you are sorely mistaken, my friend. Give me your e-mail and I will send you the photo.

He never even got his picture on a bubblegum card!

I had this vision twice so far, on Christmas.

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many others too.

he was hated, and so will be those who believe.

Well, wasn't that a good thing?

Who didn't want the people to be able to be deceived by all those lies intended to deceive them?

That doesn't make sense.

You're confused.

I don't push it on people. They either believe or they do not.

Early Christians killed those that didn't believe in Christ?

You're about truth?!

And if they dont..they are going to be burnt alive forever or just killed outright..RIGHT??

I don't believe in hell.

We all can climb out of the pit.

What prevents this?

Religions.

He never existed. There's nobody to hate.

Why is that lion sodomizing a sheep?

the sheep has become a lion.

:littleboylamb:

lies is lies

"But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established."


"This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.


"Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses."


"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."


"At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you."


"One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;

Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;

And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. "


"And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."


YOU say that means Jesus says he was lying.

In fact, Jesus was conforming himself to the consistent scriptural standard.


I know you don't care. Maybe someone else does.

Jesus never existed until the Roman Church said he existed and they didn't allow anyone to say otherwise. The Religion was the law and everyone was required to believe.

This ^^^

I have.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create calamity: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7

Tell me Lamplite.... who am I?

The first physical evidence relating to Pilate was discovered in 1961, when a block of limestone, the Pilate Stone, was found in the Roman theatre at Caesarea Maritima, the capital of the province of Judaea (Iudaea). Bearing a damaged dedication by Pilate of a Tiberieum,[18] the dedication states that he was [...]ECTVS IUDA[...] (usually read as praefectus Iudaeae), that is, prefect of Judaea. The early governors of Judaea were of prefect rank, the later were of procurator rank, beginning with Cuspius Fadus in AD 44. The inscription was discovered by a group led by Antonio Frova and has been dated to AD 26–37. The inscription is currently housed in the Israel Museum, Jerusalem, while a replica stands at Caesarea.

You see Lamplite...Pilate was not even provable,a powerful Roman Prefect. It was only verified that a Pilate even existed in 1961 when the "Pilate Stone" was uncovered.

Crap I bet Josephus wrote of him. The bible was written around real characters. King Herod lived, but he wasn't alive in the time of Jesus.


The real King Herod was dead and his son's reign over before Jesus was born but look what his supposed disciples wrote!...


In Matthew king Herod dies when Jesus is only two and yet is alive later in the chapter to behead John the baptist.


Matthew 2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. [14] When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: [15] And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. [16] Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. [17] Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, [18] In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not. [19] But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, [20] Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.

Matthew 14:6 But when Herod's birthday was kept, the daughter of Herodias danced before them, and pleased Herod. [7] Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask. [8] And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger. [9] And the king was sorry: nevertheless for the oath's sake, and them which sat with him at meat, he commanded it to be given her. [10] And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison.

Mark 6:14 And king Herod heard of him; (for his name was spread abroad:) and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.

Mark 6:24 And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist. [25] And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist. [26] And the king was exceeding sorry; yet for his oath's sake, and for their sakes which sat with him, he would not reject her. [27] And immediately the king sent an executioner, and commanded his head to be brought: and he went and beheaded him in the prison,

The Jewish historian Josephus recorded that in the year 6–7, after the exile of Herod Archelaus (one of the sons and successors of Herod the Great), Quirinius (in Greek, sometimes transliterated Cyrenius), a Roman senator, became governor (Legatus) of Syria, while an equestrian assistant named Coponius was assigned as the first governor (Prefect) of the newly-created Iudaea Province. These governors were assigned to conduct a tax census for the Emperor in Syria and Iudaea. So Luke starts his testimony by letting us know King Herod is dead but latter in the chapter he is alive!

Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed. [2] (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) [3] And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. [4] And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) [5] To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. [6] And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

Luke 9:7 Now Herod the tetrarch heard of all that was done by him: and he was perplexed, because that it was said of some, that John was risen from the dead; [8] And of some, that Elias had appeared; and of others, that one of the old prophets was risen again. [9] And Herod said, John have I beheaded: but who is this, of whom I hear such things? And he desired to see him.

Luke.23:7 And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time. [8] And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him; and he hoped to have seen some miracle done by him. [11] And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked him, and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate. [12] And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves. [15] No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.
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Christianity, like all religious movements, was born from myth making; and nowhere is this clearer than when we examine the context from which Jesus sprang. The supposed historical underpinning of Jesus, which apologists insist differentiates their Christ from the myriad other savior gods and divine sons of the ancient pagan world, simply does not hold up to investigation.

Jesus vs. Julius Caesar

For instance, historian Richard Carrier has pointed out the problems with Christian apologist Douglas Geivett’s claim that the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection meets “the highest standards of historical inquiry,” and is as certain as Julius Caesar’s crossing of the Rubicon in 49 B.C.E. Carrier notes, “Well, it is common in Christian apologetics, throughout history, to make absurdly exaggerated claims, and this is no exception.” Then he compares the evidence for both events:

First of all, we have Caesar’s own account. In contrast, we have nothing written by Jesus, and we do not know who really wrote any of the Gospels. Second, many of Caesar’s enemies reported the crossing of the Rubicon. But we have no hostile or even neutral records of the resurrection until over a hundred years after the supposed event, fifty years after Christian beliefs had become widely known. Third, there are numerous inscriptions, coins, mentions of battles, conscriptions and judgments, which form an almost continuous chain of evidence for Caesar’s entire march. But there is no physical evidence of any kind in the case of Jesus.

Fourth, almost every historian of the period reports the Rubicon crossing, including the most prominent of the Roman age: Suetonius, Appian, Cassius Dio and Plutarch. Moreover, these scholars have shown proven reliability, since a great many of their reports on other matters have been confirmed with material evidence and in other sources. In addition, they all quote and name many different sources, showing a wide reading of the witnesses and documents, and they consistently show a desire to critically examine claims for which there is any dispute. If that wasn’t enough, all of them cite or quote sources written by witnesses, hostile and friendly, of the Rubicon crossing and its repercussions.

But not a single historian mentions the resurrection until the 3rd and 4th centuries, and then only Christian historians. Of the anonymous Gospel authors, only “Luke” even claims to be writing history, but neither Luke nor any of the others ever cite any other sources or show signs of a skilled or critical examination of conflicting claims. None have any other literature or scholarship to their credit that we can test for their skill and accuracy. Their actual identities are completely unknown, and all overtly declare their bias towards persuading new converts.

Finally, the Roman Civil War could not have proceeded as it did if Caesar had not physically crossed the Rubicon with his army into Italy and captured Rome. Yet the only thing necessary to explain the rise of Christianity is a belief — a belief that the resurrection happened. There is nothing that an actual resurrection would have caused that could not have been caused by a mere belief in that resurrection. Thus, an actual resurrection is not necessary to explain all subsequent history, unlike Caesar’s crossing of the Rubicon. Carrier concludes that while we have many reasons to believe that Caesar crossed the Rubicon, all of them are lacking in the case of the resurrection:

“In fact, when we compare all five points, we see that in four of the five proofs of an event’s historicity, the resurrection has no evidence at all, and in the one proof that it does have, it has not the best, but the very worst kind of evidence — a handful of biased, uncritical, unscholarly, unknown, second-hand witnesses. Indeed, you really have to look hard to find another event that is in a worse condition than this as far as evidence goes.”1

So even before we begin to examine Jesus’ resurrection, we are forced to recognize that the historical evidence for it, and all the other extraordinary events of Jesus’ career, is not only far from ironclad, but already suspect. So there is nothing unreasonable about taking a skeptical approach to the Gospels’ image of Jesus in the first place. And it’s important to note that we are not just talking about the divine man-god Jesus coming under fire, because it is not just the supernatural aspects of Jesus that have come under suspicion. Even the mundane and perfectly plausible-sounding aspects of Jesus’ life have proved to be problematic…

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Nailed: Ten Christian Myths That Show Jesus Never Existed at All

by David Fitzgerald

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Christianity is a JOKE

It's followers embarrass themselves by taking it seriously.