The loss of all fear

I have been there for a while there. Not just a loss of fear but of all emotion. I literally feel nothing. Not happy not sad not afraid nothing. Went to a psychiatrist who gave me a bunch of pills that basically made me sleep, but didnt make me feel anything. Thought I was alone. Nice thread OP.

Do you feel at peace?

Or do you feel like an empty vessel? What made you want to see a psychiatrist?

I want to know these answers too.

The emotion things... I can see this too. I have less and less "large emotional swings".

I dont go from happy to sad, back and forth. I just am. Although most would say I am a positive happy guy.


I want to hear what you have to say?

I will watch the video later, I am not able to at the moment. Thanks for sharing it.

Your questions help me look at what erroneous beliefs I still cling to that I allow to bring fear, rather than an unpleasant upheaval of emotions. I enjoyed our exchange, thanks.

Finding the path to love out of situations that seem to bring fear has become interesting for me.

I have reached this stage.

No more room for fear.

The reason I posed those questions was because in my early/mid 20's I went through a period of feeling emotionless and like an empty shell (not in a positive way though).

But that was definitely different than the state I find myself in now because I feel at peace now. That being said, I find that I don't experience much of a range of emotions at all. I don't have highs or lows, just an even keel somewhere in the middle. I can feel/experience other peoples' emotions if I choose to though - but that's a bit different.

Care to share what brought you to that point? Was it a gradual process? Or an "event"?




I feel the same way. More "even".

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Hey, not sure if it´s the same but if I concentrate my body really hard my stomach starts to feel rollercoaster-like, my mind becomes kind of floaty and I can feel some intense energy wanting to leave my body/pulling against my skin, is this the start of an OBE?

Sounds like it to me. This is where most people get "stuck".

They start to focus on the feelings they get, and it takes them out of the "meditative state", therefore, never achieving the OBE.

yup! guilty of that.

what sometimes works is to not get too excited, kinda like you're looking at something out of the corner of your eye. let the feeling take you out instead of willing it to happen so hard. otherwise you get too cerebral and you lose it. so frustrating!

Yep. I have broken/missed my chance for an OBE so many times by getting excited.

Me: "YES! There is that feeling! I am getting close. Any second now". "CRAP! Just lot it"

i can totally relate.

Hey Brother,

fears spring from the mortal animal side inside (the total sum of the three bodies of man physical/astral/mental)

one needs to go through what is called the Mystical Death to let behind all Fears.

not in the sense that one will become a fearless nut,
but in the case that fear will not determine one's actions anymore.

For the Soul to take the Seat of the Driver, it is necessary that the ego/'I' experience a full fledged death, in all three bodies

only then, when the mortal side succumbs and accepts its own death, the Soul can Shine in all Magnificence

[link to gnosticteachings.org]

When you can finally shut the "mind/ego" up. A truly wonderful moment. The realization that your thoughts are not you. Your thoughts/inner thinking/I has nothing to do with your soul/spirit.

Fear is a great motivator, and a useful tool
to maintain survival.

You can't lose fear, it's encoded.

You can only overcome fear.

Semantics.

Fear is different then recognizing danger. Fear, IMO, is more of an animalistic response that can be controlled/lost. If the right circumstances happen.

What I call loss of fear you call overcoming it. Semantics. But the same thing... IMHO.

LOL I realize I never answered your original question. I don't fear death, I fear pain. Ever since I can remember I guess that's been the case.

Hmm fear pain. Not sure fear is the word I would choose.

Disklike pain immensely. Sorta accepted and embraced pain. "Pain doesnt hurt" mentality. Pain is a way for my body to let my conciousness know that my "vehicle" is undergoing duress.

So I try to envision/treat pain that way. Accept it. Take it in. Fully embrace the pain. Try to feel the sensation of it. What is it really telling me.

Does that make any sense at all, or do I sound crazy.

LOL

i had my mystical death and rebirth 3 years ago.

what is funny is that the mental complex is a master deceiver.

in my case i have a scorpio mind which is expert at lurking in the shadows and controlling reality from there.

although i had read and resonated deeply with castaneda 6 years prior to the Real Experience
and 'in theory' i accepted the Truth of the facts about how the mind plays tricks and so on.
it took me 6 years to really challenge it from the point of will/soul
before that i was already believing all the things i believe now, just that they were 'fake' beliefs because they were filtered and manipulated by the 'mind' from the subconscious area.

the moment i Really SAW my mind for what it Really is,
was when i could not discern if i would die for physical failure of some organ in the next seconds, and this in a repeated manner
having at the same time the best lucidity of my mind at hand.

in that moment i realized the simplest fact.
namely that when the time of death comes, ANY human being knows this, through Soul Wisdom.

but my Great Mind is incapable of Knowing this simple fact.

and in that moment i saw my Mind from Outside with the eye of the Soul.
and Saw how she thought all along that, it being so smart and all, can control the surrounding reality, and how it always did this manipulating all reality including me.

but the death got the best of her, and with all its power she was not able to tell if death will occur or not.
and as such, from then on she was dismissed from the Driver's Seat by the Soul/Will

Last Edited by VenusRose on 07/11/2013 11:31 AM

yep, semantics indeed

i was stressing the same point in:

"not in the sense that one will become a fearless nut,
but in the case that fear will not determine one's actions anymore."

As long as the pain or the damage caused by it is able to heal, then I don´t worry about pain.


I actually fear permanent damage to my body, like in the form of a missing limb or a physical disability, especially not if I have to do another 50 years with it.

I can relate.


I knew the truth long before I really accepted the truth.

Your "mind" tricks you into thinking you have accepted the truth. But in reality, you have not.

You can only really accept it when the soul/spirit finally sees the mind for what it really is. THE GREAT DECEIVER.

It is a wonderful creation, the mind.

Cant find the truth without it, but it tries to stop you from finding the truth every step of the way.

It is an interesting dynamic.

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When you have that first OBE that will pass.

The body is nothing but a "car" for your soul.

Worrying about losing a limb is like worrying that your car is a failure if it loses it bumper.

It is still a car, just missing a part.

no, you make sense, i totally agree. i guess what i meant was that the only aversion i have to dying is the physical pain that I fear might come from it if it's a painful death. the actual transition of dying doesn't scare me, nor does being dead.

The Mind, or the Manasic principle, which is connected with the Throat/Thyroid Center and is ruled by Mercury

has the task of building the rainbow bridge (antahkarana)

the mind is the bridge that connects and gives expression to both Lower animal man and Higher spiritual man

As such there is the Lower Mind (the Great Deceiver)
and the Higher Mind (which is the vessel which can be infused with Higher Intuitive Straight-knowledge from the Buddhic Plane)

The Moment of awakening is when the bridge is formed, and the SOul/Buddhic energy pours in the Vessel of Mind, and the Higher Mind is revealed and begins to function, while the Lower Mind looses its place of control, and becomes a Tool, as the Muscles are for specific tasks down here

Oh yea. I am with you there. When I die, I dont want to have hours and hours of pain.

Just come and take me please! If a meteor hits I want to be at "ground zero". None of this 6 months of starving to death.

Not scared of pain, but I damn sure want to avoid it.

LOL

I don´t fear what most people fear, not death or anything like that. But I´m confronted with my fears again these days.
I´m just trying to confront myself with it now, trying to dive deep into the roots of it. That´s the only way I think.

'Be the love that you are'.