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truthwillsetyoufreeagain
 User ID: 23952927  United States07/13/2013 09:51 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm so nervous.  Can't even imagine what he, his family and friends are going through.  ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Dijact
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| belay
User ID: 36106125 United States07/13/2013 09:54 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The courts and production crew have been doing a good job of hiding the identities of the jury. If I were a juror in an emotionally charged case as this is that is the main question I would ask of those close to me. How is my identity being protected? Texas, born and raised! |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/13/2013 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say we are looking at a hung jury. It is the only way these jurors can be safe. I recall that the Anthony jurors had to worry about their safety, well this trial is much more dangerous in the reaction to the verdict. These jurors may not be currently reading the news but they cannot be that stupid as to think they will be safe with a guilty verdict. Quoting: Corn Dog I voted on "hung jury"...because of this very issue. This way, they can say there were those for "guilty" and those for "non-guilty" not knowing who voted what. How can they riot over that? There is no one to blame. I would rather for there to be a "hung jury" and the state not re-trying him and just taking the loss. Of course, they could say they are upset that it is an all white, 1 Hispanic jury. "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr. |
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| truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 23952927 United States07/13/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say we are looking at a hung jury. It is the only way these jurors can be safe. I recall that the Anthony jurors had to worry about their safety, well this trial is much more dangerous in the reaction to the verdict. These jurors may not be currently reading the news but they cannot be that stupid as to think they will be safe with a guilty verdict. Quoting: Corn Dog When they left the courthouse yesterday by bus, they could hear what the losers outside were shouting. I think there will be rioting even if it's a hung jury. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the potential rioters even know what that is. And the rest who do will still be pissed off that Z is not going to jail right now. Let's hope those six women will not be able to send an innocent man to prison and they do the right and lawful thing. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Panhead
User ID: 5539371 United States07/13/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manslaughter still means 15 to life sentence. Hope some of the jurors know the extend of the law and the price that comes with such verdict. Not only a mans life ruined, but any new case of self-defense as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381689 ever think that's what is really on trial here.....self defense? Thats the reason for my intrest in this case and the fact that the media and the Fed has tried to turn this into a racial thing (huge fail) "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the American Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford "Disappointment is Anger for wimps" House |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 23952927 United States07/13/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manslaughter still means 15 to life sentence. Hope some of the jurors know the extend of the law and the price that comes with such verdict. Not only a mans life ruined, but any new case of self-defense as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381689 I heard somewhere that they are not told what the sentencing guidelines are. Also, that this judge is very heavy on her sentences and she could easily give him 30 years for manslaughter. No matter what they think the sentence will be, they shouldn't give an innocent man any jail time. It's hard for me to believe that all six of them will see it that way. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35693444 United States07/13/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get why people wanting to convict Zimmerman are so hung up on who started the fight? First of all, are we in elementary school? And secondly, that argument never worked with my parents but it seems to be all that matters to those of a certain political persuasion , I've noticed. Anyway, so what if George Zimmerman got out of his truck? So what if he DID follow TM? Following someone is not illegal, it's not even immoral. So how can people get all bent out of shape bc Zimmerman "followed" and yet think it was perfectly reasonable and acceptable that TM punched and tried to beat Zimmerman? There is just no logic to these arguments. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States07/13/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It kinda sucks for ZImmerman that the jury is deliberating over the weekend! I thought he had one last weekend of freedom but now be could very well be in prison by Monday Quoting: Yoda17460874 Yoda, really? Haven't you watched the trial? You did as far as I know. So what's up? Are you fighting the urge to give up and fall into the dark side, ghetto side? There is no question about it, the law states he is innocent. Too many lawyers tell me this as well. He hasn't been free since the day he had to shoot that piece of shit thug! |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 23952927 United States07/13/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manslaughter still means 15 to life sentence. Hope some of the jurors know the extend of the law and the price that comes with such verdict. Not only a mans life ruined, but any new case of self-defense as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381689 ever think that's what is really on trial here.....self defense? Thats the reason for my intrest in this case and the fact that the media and the Fed has tried to turn this into a racial thing (huge fail) An attorney on Fox last night said that there are many self-defense cases but they're rarely, if ever, brought to trial (as this one wasn't going to be). We all know that this one was brought to trial for only one reason. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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| Future Viewer User ID: 804276 United States07/13/2013 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Manslaughter still means 15 to life sentence. Hope some of the jurors know the extend of the law and the price that comes with such verdict. Not only a mans life ruined, but any new case of self-defense as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381689 I heard somewhere that they are not told what the sentencing guidelines are. Also, that this judge is very heavy on her sentences and she could easily give him 30 years for manslaughter. No matter what they think the sentence will be, they shouldn't give an innocent man any jail time. It's hard for me to believe that all six of them will see it that way. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Whole Court System is rigged, with Federal Courts, Federal Judges, and Federal Prosecutors and same thing with State Courts and County Courts.. USDOJ and local Justice System a "BIG LIE" (rigged) for an Agenda of sorts!  |
| Timing is Everything
User ID: 20266013 United States07/13/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if he is found guilty on any level this type of stuff should help with the appeal. Doesn't make what has happened to GZ any better though.  Thread: Zimmerman Case Whistleblower fired Timing is Everything |
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| geminilion
User ID: 12895036 United States07/13/2013 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went to bring garbage downstairs and got stuck in the elevator! I usually walk down but I had too many bags!  ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States07/13/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is funny is this. If Z is innocent of 2nd degree, then it is impossible to charge manslaughter. Not being charged in 2nd degree, he was in the right of self defense. When that is addressed, self defense, there is no possibility for manslaughter. Because he INTENDED to shoot the thug. |
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| geminilion
User ID: 12895036 United States07/13/2013 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to various lawyers, the bald guy (can't spell his name) should be disbarred for the way he acted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43249850 Not only disbarred but disballed! ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
| Yoda17460874
User ID: 17460874 United States07/13/2013 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It kinda sucks for ZImmerman that the jury is deliberating over the weekend! I thought he had one last weekend of freedom but now be could very well be in prison by Monday Quoting: Yoda17460874 I'm sure he is ready for the stress of this whole episode to be over. I'll bet! But you don't think he would like 1 last weekend of freedom? Yoda am I |
| GoldenYears
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| truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 23952927 United States07/13/2013 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It kinda sucks for ZImmerman that the jury is deliberating over the weekend! I thought he had one last weekend of freedom but now be could very well be in prison by Monday Quoting: Yoda17460874 Yoda, really? Haven't you watched the trial? You did as far as I know. So what's up? Are you fighting the urge to give up and fall into the dark side, ghetto side? There is no question about it, the law states he is innocent. Too many lawyers tell me this as well. He hasn't been free since the day he had to shoot that piece of shit thug! Even Geraldo Rivera said he should be found not guilty, as the prosecution didn't prove their case. When he said it, it looked like he was sucking on a lemon. Any half-way honest attorney has said the same thing. Yoda, I can't figure you out. Do you condone not following the law in your everyday life, or what? After all this is over we should make a Yoda thread and discuss what makes people like you tick. Maybe if we find out what it is, we can cure it. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Force King
User ID: 20702586 United States07/13/2013 10:08 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went to bring garbage downstairs and got stuck in the elevator! I usually walk down but I had too many bags! Quoting: geminilion The garbage bag behind you, did you kick it's ass for following you? I saw the garbage on top then I heard a gun shot Last Edited by Force King on 07/13/2013 10:08 AM |
| geminilion
User ID: 12895036 United States07/13/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lady Jane Smith For me, it is because if Zimmerman is convicted, it will embolden attacks against non-black people by blacks. It could very well initiate an open season against white people. Welcome to South Africa. No doubt! I wont be able to anywhere! I live in the DC metro area. Glad I am prepped & able to defend home & hearth. I was in Anacostia doing some repair work a few weeks ago. I hope you don't live anywhere near that area. I live in Baltimore, but that area around Malcolm X Blvd is downright dangerous. Is that near Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. blvd.? I got jokes today people! ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
| Molon Labe 2013
User ID: 30407302 United States07/13/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get why people wanting to convict Zimmerman are so hung up on who started the fight? First of all, are we in elementary school? And secondly, that argument never worked with my parents but it seems to be all that matters to those of a certain political persuasion , I've noticed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35693444 Anyway, so what if George Zimmerman got out of his truck? So what if he DID follow TM? Following someone is not illegal, it's not even immoral. So how can people get all bent out of shape bc Zimmerman "followed" and yet think it was perfectly reasonable and acceptable that TM punched and tried to beat Zimmerman? There is just no logic to these arguments. The logical extension of the "he shouldn't have followed" argument is that there should no neighborhood watch at all, and that people should just cower in their homes... Molon Labe 2013 |
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| GoldenYears
User ID: 14091728 United States07/13/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in the DC metro area. Glad I am prepped & able to defend home & hearth. I was in Anacostia doing some repair work a few weeks ago. I hope you don't live anywhere near that area. I live in Baltimore, but that area around Malcolm X Blvd is downright dangerous. Is that near Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. blvd.? I got jokes today people! There is a MLK Blvd in Raleigh NC....haha "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" Socrates |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 23952927 United States07/13/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to various lawyers, the bald guy (can't spell his name) should be disbarred for the way he acted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43249850 And the State's medical examiner should be fired. What an incompetent idiot. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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