Dreams and Other Timelines

Damn. My thread is already buried. I was really hoping someone would want to discuss the whole dreams and timelines thing.

What did you name the baby?

Sage

Thank you for the bump.

I can't even find any good dream meaning sites for any of this stuff either.

No middle name, just Sage. I have never even considered that as a name. Someone in the dream asked and I immediately said Sage without thought.

the baby is you.

What do you mean?

she is a part of you that you need to bring forth and nourish. your husband can help you since he birthed her in the dream.

people use sage to cleanse.

this is a pure part of yourself. bring her out and you will feel as you did holding her... happy, peaceful.

BTW, it is not impossible that a child may come into your life. sage is paving the way, perhaps.

I understand you now. Makes sense too. Thanks for your insight.

True. Maybe so. I just felt so happy in the dream. I have children now and they were in the dream too. But I when I woke up I felt as if she should have been here too. It was a strange empty feeling.

This is some trippy stuff, OP. Very interesing read.

I believe that both mythology and dreams involve archetypes deeply inbedded in the human subconscious. Both are reflections of ways that deeper parts of ourselves understand things (as opposed to "logical" waking-life "rational"-type thought).

So let's look for paralells in mythology.

In world mythology there are many tales of something precious that must be kept secret, and then sombody "peeks at it secretly" or exposes the secret, and it causes problems.

Example: Pandora's box (she was told not to open it, but she did, and all the evils of the world came out).

There are a few stories like this in Japanese Shinto mythology as well. Example: A woman marries a God who has taken human form, and they are in love and happy. Then one day the God says "I have to change back to my original form, but you cannot look at it. So please don't look at me while I do this." But the woman secretly opens the door and she sees the God in the form of a snake. She is horrified and the God gets angry and leaves. She then kills herself.

From the Bible: Lot and his wife are fleeing the destroyed cities and God tells them not to look back. But the wife does. She gets turned into a pillar of salt.

There are many other examples (i.e., Persephone in Greek myths, Izanagi and Izanami in Japan again, some from Norse myths, etc.) In every case a woman reveals or looks at somethingshe is not supposed to, and something bad happens.

In this case you were supposed to keep the baby secret because nobody would believe, and this was a kind of anxiety. But you broke the rule of secrecy (told your mom) and the baby was "taken" from you (i.e., you woke up and now are missing the baby).

This anxiety about secrecy and loss is ancient and universal, as manifested over and over in myths (usually involving women) and dreams. Women are under a lot of pressure to keep things secret (they gossip more, they have to wear makeup and "look pretty" so they hide their body functions more, etc.) Both dreams and myth express this persistent aspect of female anxieties over secrecy and loss.

Does this resonnate with anything else in your life? (I mean, it doesn't have to be a baby, but are you anxious about a secret that you might reveal, resulting in loss of something?)

Interesting dream.

Hmm. Very interesting.
I guess I did let the secret out in the dream. I didn't even know I was supposed to keep it a secret, I kept her a secret for 2 weeks on the thought that the hospital would or whoever would take her from us. I wasn't sure if they would DNA test her and if they did I knew there was a chance she wouldn't be mine.

Now that I think about it yes there is a secret I have kept for years. The secret wouldn't cause me to lose anything but what the secret is about is already lost, if that makes sense. I have never wanted to tell it and I may never do that either. I am very ashamed of it and feel guilty quite often.

A good person to ask for a dream analysis is Andrew Bartzis. He does a ton of radio call in shows and has a Facebook page if you want to try and reach him there. Very cool dude and really funny.