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IS THERE A CLASS WAR?

 
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The woman in the video is full of so much shit I don't even know where to begin. And, I'll be the first to say I'm not near as articulate with my feelings on these matters as the majority of posters here....but MONEY! SEND US MONEY! Whoa..."so much shit they had to make a second pile" (Drew Carey quote).

I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan


This is just an average person speaking at a rally just a few days ago. It sounds pretty much like a "class war" and "race war" to me.

White People: "Check Your Privilege"


 Quoting: H0NEYBEE
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As I was reading, I had a total deja vu moment!! I remember getting this in an email before the elections.

[link to politicsandfinance.blogspot.com]

Yes, I am tired of paying for their free stuff. Too bad, so sad, if they hate me for being tired of it. lol

It is not my [white] job to make everyone accept those who feel they are victims of racism.

Why don't they point fingers at, and get to work on changing the HUGE numbers of their "free stuff people" that do things that cause racism in the first place?

tggetup
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I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan

Evan. You know how much I respect your opinions, so please don't take this as me picking on you only.

We - meaning you, me, Honeybee, and the majority of posters on this forum - understand that it's a psyop. However, what Honeybee is pointing out is that there are billions of other Americans who don't realize they are being played. These are the people who we need to get the message to, but it seems more and more that we are preaching to this very small choir, because the rest don't really give a shit.


Now, I don't wish anyone any harm; however, even though I receive some public assistance, I would prefer to live in a world where the skills I have left after my disability are useful. I would love to see it all fall apart and people have to start fending for themselves, you know why? Because after having worked full or part-time since I was 14 up until 2003 when I became disabled, I paid in a lot of money to a system that sees me as "not one of the entitled". Yep. I'm the wrong class of person. I don't have children and my husband is a foreign national so when they do their little calculations at the "Human Resources" office, somehow a registered minority of my same age and situation, or one who has never worked, receives more benefits than I do when I paid into that system. I don't want something for nothing. I just don't understand how someone who has never worked or whose skin color is different from mine seems to need more groceries than I do. I am not really complaining. I do well on my 800 a month. I've cut out a lot of things I thought I needed, but really didn't. It's been liberating in many ways and prepared me for the time when we are back at square one with hoes and shovels digging a living from the soil. I want it to fall apart, Evan, so my skills in gardening, food preservation, irrigation, and non-chemical farming can finally serve a purpose beyond what people now consider my fucking hobby!

Erm. Yeah... this topic really chaps my ass. But I will take my 24.00 in food stamps. It's the only way I can afford fresh fruit every month. Everything else, I pay for myself.

Here's a funny. I tried to start a community garden here in my town. The City Council said NO. I didn't even get a "this is why we refused your request". Do you know how many elderly people and disadvantaged people that community garden could have helped? How many people who would have been useful for a few hours a day a couple days a week? And we could have sold the extra to make money for more equipment and other things. Want to know why I think they said no? Because I wanted to grow only heirlooms and save our seed. This is Texas. We don't get a lot of rain. Plants need to adapt and evolve to tolerate the heat and dry. I think it was the "No commercial seed" that killed it along with "no commercial fertilizers".

Wow. What a rant. Sorry folks.
 Quoting: Éireann


Yea, actually me and the OP ended up discussing this on another thread after I posted here. We are on the same page now.

hf

Oh and that's B.S about the community garden!
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are non white rich people not having privilege? what if they inherited their money?

are white people who aren't rich (a.k.a. most of us) exempt?

because my I'm White and I'm Rich card hasn't made it to my house yet. I don't know why. And I've never received the extra $110,000 on my paycheck just because I'm pale.
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:ilaugh:

I hear that :D
 Quoting: Éireann


he he, before the dollar gets worthless, our white people in the government need to send those out to let us have a little fun. hell, give one to everyone iI don't care. our wild OMG FREE MONEY shopping spree might keep the stupid economy going for a while. I know some people will be practical, but almost everyone actually needs at least one thing.
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Did anyone else see this article?

PENN UNIVERSITY PROF SAYS ZIMMERMAN LET OFF BECAUSE GOD IS A ‘WHITE RACIST’

Professor Anthea Butler put blame on God for the Zimmerman verdict. Butler says its because God “is a white racist.” This woman teaches religion. Biz Pac Review reported: While those on the left look to place blame for George Zimmerman’s acquittal in the death of Trayvon Martin, a radical professor said it’s because God is a white racist. In an editorial published on Sunday, Anthea Butler, a religious professor at the University of Pennsylvania, proclaimed God is “a white racist god with a problem.” “God ain’t good all of the time. In fact, sometimes, God is not for us. As a black woman in an nation that has taken too many pains to remind me that I am not a white man, and am not capable of taking care of my reproductive rights, or my voting rights, I know that this American god ain’t my god. As a matter of fact, I think he’s a white racist god with a problem. More importantly, he is carrying a gun and stalking young black men.” Butler, who accused Walmart of being sharecroppers and slave owners earlier this year, acts like the country is still in 1950s Mississippi when she said “most good conservative Christians in America think… whatever makes them protected, safe, and secure, is worth it at the expense of the black and brown people they fear.”

[link to endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com]

I thought I had heard it all, until this.

shocked
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


wtf

Incredible.
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Certainly...but, the war is being waged from the bottom up.

The leeches of society are demanding more every day, while the producers just want to be left alone.

The church only expects 10%.

My government, and the leeches that fostered that government demand 3-4-5x that, and want even more every single year.
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Yes. There absolutely is a class war going on. It’s nothing new and just like the race war they are trying to goad the public into the progressives in the media and the government are doing everything they possibly can to make the idiot masses think the other guy is at fault and an all powerful government can and should act to fix things that are not broken.

The difference this time is that the President and the Attorney general are using and abusing their top level government powers to maximum effect. Worse, now that we live in an age of instant communication with brain dead masses following 24 hour a day progressive propaganda outlets the evil bastards can whip up millions of zombies into a frenzy of hate in less than a day.
 Quoting: Resister


clappa
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


Resister right again!
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The woman in the video is full of so much shit I don't even know where to begin. And, I'll be the first to say I'm not near as articulate with my feelings on these matters as the majority of posters here....but MONEY! SEND US MONEY! Whoa..."so much shit they had to make a second pile" (Drew Carey quote).

I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan


This is just an average person speaking at a rally just a few days ago. It sounds pretty much like a "class war" and "race war" to me.

White People: "Check Your Privilege"


 Quoting: H0NEYBEE

 Quoting: hannah50


I started to watch this video, but I had to stop. I believe I might actually go insane.

white people have problems too it is the fucking truth. this little female will find out. iI never was so naive not to know it, but she should be thanking God she is so lucky.

if she was killed instead of TRAYVON, does she think he would give a shit? isn't her life worth something? i'mI'm annoyed with her first few words so bad iI can't watch and iI don't want anything bad to happen to her. iI just know it will eventually because life isn't always easy.
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IS THERE A CLASS WAR?
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE



YES.....purely and deliberately create by the Obama administration.

It's designed to divide the USA so the Socialists can conquer and destroy it from within.

It has 2 main components.....

1) RACIALLY

2) CLASS ENVY / WARFARE


:racagend: classenvy
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I agree.

Totally off topic here...but I love your avatar!

chuckle
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


Thank you.

...and if this keeps up....here is where we are headed.....by design.

:serfdom1: :serfdomrd:
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IS THERE A CLASS WAR?
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE



YES.....purely and deliberately create by the Obama administration.

It's designed to divide the USA so the Socialists can conquer and destroy it from within.

It has 2 main components.....

1) RACIALLY

2) CLASS ENVY / WARFARE


:racagend: classenvy
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I agree.

Totally off topic here...but I love your avatar!

chuckle
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


Thank you.

...and if this keeps up....here is where we are headed.....by design.

:serfdom1: :serfdomrd:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I just started reading that book!

It's great so far. I made a thread about philisophy books and someone reccomended it.
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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As I was reading, I had a total deja vu moment!! I remember getting this in an email before the elections.

[link to politicsandfinance.blogspot.com]

Yes, I am tired of paying for their free stuff. Too bad, so sad, if they hate me for being tired of it. lol

It is not my [white] job to make everyone accept those who feel they are victims of racism.

Why don't they point fingers at, and get to work on changing the HUGE numbers of their "free stuff people" that do things that cause racism in the first place?

tggetup
 Quoting: Tangy


Thanks Tangy for the link. I added you in the OP. Still no author, but at least it is a reference. I kept asking this morning, I should have known to ask you!

dasbier

Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 07/17/2013 07:35 PM
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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A lot of post here are trying to make this a race issue. That's bull-shit! It has nothing to do with race. It's about givers and takers. The problem is that King Barry and the rest of the progressives have convinced the takers that we owe it to them. I don't feel like I owe them shit! I work hard for my money, and I want to be able to keep it. I don't care what color your skin is, if you work for a living, we will get along just fine. If you take from others rather than working, you and I are gonna' have problems. I understand there are people thast can't work, but that is a very small part of the pie. The problem is the people that just want to sit around and have babies so we have to pay them. Welfare and unemployment were supposed to be a safety net, but now they pay enough to live compfortably. That needs to change.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


yes! I have known plenty of people of other races who just are living their lives. working jobs, taking care of their families.

they're pissed when bad or unfair things happen, but they realize it's not just them ... it's LIFE. that many others have the exact same problems. they don't pitch a fit, they try to fix things.
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Not with me. I have no class whatsoever.
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Of course, the best part is the poor sheep will fight the rich sheep but the super wealthy elite who caused all this will hide and return after to continue their rule over us.

We need to identify and destroy the actual enemy.
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our problems might just disappear...
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I think there are people who benefit from you believing there is a class war, similarly, a race war.

Without these ideas being implanted in peoples heads...we would all just be people, living and surviving.
 Quoting: *Evan

Evan. You know how much I respect your opinions, so please don't take this as me picking on you only.

We - meaning you, me, Honeybee, and the majority of posters on this forum - understand that it's a psyop. However, what Honeybee is pointing out is that there are billions of other Americans who don't realize they are being played. These are the people who we need to get the message to, but it seems more and more that we are preaching to this very small choir, because the rest don't really give a shit.


Now, I don't wish anyone any harm; however, even though I receive some public assistance, I would prefer to live in a world where the skills I have left after my disability are useful. I would love to see it all fall apart and people have to start fending for themselves, you know why? Because after having worked full or part-time since I was 14 up until 2003 when I became disabled, I paid in a lot of money to a system that sees me as "not one of the entitled". Yep. I'm the wrong class of person. I don't have children and my husband is a foreign national so when they do their little calculations at the "Human Resources" office, somehow a registered minority of my same age and situation, or one who has never worked, receives more benefits than I do when I paid into that system. I don't want something for nothing. I just don't understand how someone who has never worked or whose skin color is different from mine seems to need more groceries than I do. I am not really complaining. I do well on my 800 a month. I've cut out a lot of things I thought I needed, but really didn't. It's been liberating in many ways and prepared me for the time when we are back at square one with hoes and shovels digging a living from the soil. I want it to fall apart, Evan, so my skills in gardening, food preservation, irrigation, and non-chemical farming can finally serve a purpose beyond what people now consider my fucking hobby!

Erm. Yeah... this topic really chaps my ass. But I will take my 24.00 in food stamps. It's the only way I can afford fresh fruit every month. Everything else, I pay for myself.

Here's a funny. I tried to start a community garden here in my town. The City Council said NO. I didn't even get a "this is why we refused your request". Do you know how many elderly people and disadvantaged people that community garden could have helped? How many people who would have been useful for a few hours a day a couple days a week? And we could have sold the extra to make money for more equipment and other things. Want to know why I think they said no? Because I wanted to grow only heirlooms and save our seed. This is Texas. We don't get a lot of rain. Plants need to adapt and evolve to tolerate the heat and dry. I think it was the "No commercial seed" that killed it along with "no commercial fertilizers".

Wow. What a rant. Sorry folks.
 Quoting: Éireann


Yea, actually me and the OP ended up discussing this on another thread after I posted here. We are on the same page now.

hf

Oh and that's B.S about the community garden!
 Quoting: *Evan


hf
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Thanks Tangy for the link. I added you in the OP. Still no author, but at least it is a reference. I kept asking this morning, I should have known to ask you!

dasbier
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Your welcome. :) It was probably anonymously written originally.

There was a time that churches took care of those in need.

When did it become the governments job?

Probably the moment they realized how much control it would give them over both sides. ugh..

I remember seeing an article that broke it down, and those on welfare, etc. have more $$ than those who pay for it. On top of that, it is TAX FREE...

I think a drink is a good idea!! lolol

tgvodka
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IS THERE A CLASS WAR?
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YES.....purely and deliberately create by the Obama administration.

It's designed to divide the USA so the Socialists can conquer and destroy it from within.

It has 2 main components.....

1) RACIALLY

2) CLASS ENVY / WARFARE


:racagend: classenvy
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I agree.

Totally off topic here...but I love your avatar!

chuckle
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Thank you.

...and if this keeps up....here is where we are headed.....by design.

:serfdom1: :serfdomrd:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I agree..I'm gonna share what I shared with Evan earlier on another thread.

"I hear every single day people stating that they have a right to what we have worked for. At the same time, I'm an advocate against "Prisons For Profit"...I have been fighting them tooth and nail. Speaking before our legislators to change some of our laws and to educate. But America has two large prison corporations. One of them being CCA who in 2012 put in a bid to buy out all the prisons in 48 states with a 20 year contract guaranteeing 90%+ occupancy of all the prisons. They have major stock on Wall Street with other major corporations and politicians having stock with them. Wall Street is imprisoning Main Street. They are able to use prison labor and small businesses cannot compete with them. They do not have to pay taxes, workers compensation or healthcare. They pay inmates about 60 cents per day. There is now over 2.3 million in prison and over 7.5 million under the Dept.of Corrections. Corrections Corporation of America has spent well over $50 million on lobbying to help write our laws. Our laws keep getting crazier and crazier thus ensuring more inmates in the prisons. We are worth more to them locked up rather than to be free." ~ H0NEYBEE

Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 07/17/2013 07:36 PM
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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There was a really great post in a thread here I read over the last week about us whites having done all that we could to make reparations for the past of our ancestors, and that the 'oppressed' have been given ample opportunity with programs, special colleges, etc...and that it's been out of our hands (and the guilt off our backs) for some generations now. That needs to be pointed to in this post. It was a great summation of what we've done to make amends and that it's really no longer applicable - because now with the tools and options they have, it's on them.

And this isn't easy for me to say...I'm from the hippie generation who fought against my parents/grandparents bigotry. But - I've grown, and I see what's going on. It's turned into utter bullshit now.
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Now why in the hell do I have to feel bad now? Just what did I do? Oh that's right, I'm white. How many people are fed up with this crap? The numbers are climbing every day, there will be a tipping point eventually and it will be long overdue.
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I am! I will not be made to feel bad about my being white, or female, or college educated, or over 50. I will NOT apologize to any one, of any color for being born white...iamwith
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i know, right?

no one can help their race.

no one can help their gender (um, usually).

no one can help their age.

no one can help where they were born.

no one can help the parents they were born to nor the people who raised them.

i guess you could have skipped college, lol.
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Thanks Tangy for the link. I added you in the OP. Still no author, but at least it is a reference. I kept asking this morning, I should have known to ask you!

dasbier
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


Your welcome. :) It was probably anonymously written originally.

There was a time that churches took care of those in need.

When did it become the governments job?

Probably the moment they realized how much control it would give them over both sides. ugh..

I remember seeing an article that broke it down, and those on welfare, etc. have more $$ than those who pay for it. On top of that, it is TAX FREE...

I think a drink is a good idea!! lolol

tgvodka
 Quoting: Tangy


I found it..Michael Haltman. I started following him on facebook now..lol.


A drink sounds good with everything going on...

chuckle
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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LOLZ, Read the whole thread.

So we are arguing about "givers and takers " of money that has the monetary value of monopoly money?

We are being played....how can you give and take something that doesn't exsist? And technically we are all takers, in some form at some level.
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Certainly...but, the war is being waged from the bottom up.

The leeches of society are demanding more every day, while the producers just want to be left alone.

The church only expects 10%.

My government, and the leeches that fostered that government demand 3-4-5x that, and want even more every single year.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


The rich get richer as they systematically cut ties to the network of wealth distribution, redirecting more and more income their way.
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That is why it is called endgame. The few 'winners' own it all, and the rest of the 99% are left with nothing.

What do you really expect to happen?
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Certainly...but, the war is being waged from the bottom up.

The leeches of society are demanding more every day, while the producers just want to be left alone.

The church only expects 10%.

My government, and the leeches that fostered that government demand 3-4-5x that, and want even more every single year.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


The rich get richer as they systematically cut ties to the network of wealth distribution, redirecting more and more income their way.
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I used to think it was greed (still think that's partly true). but, I also think they are planning to get out of dodge before it goes down.
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This is interesting, Many possibilities here.

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LOLZ, Read the whole thread.

So we are arguing about "givers and takers " of money that has the monetary value of monopoly money?

We are being played....how can you give and take something that doesn't exsist? And technically we are all takers, in some form at some level.
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Mute point when that monopoly money still buys physical objects of value.
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free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff yadayadayadayadayadayada derp
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That is why it is called endgame. The few 'winners' own it all, and the rest of the 99% are left with nothing.

What do you really expect to happen?
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I want to rant, cuss, go down kicking and screaming. lol..

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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Is this part of the agenda???



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This is interesting, Many possibilities here.

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Re: IS THERE A CLASS WAR?
Is this part of the agenda???



quote:Anonymous Coward 42393811:MV8yMjk0OTU2XzM5MDgxNDcyXzJGRUNFQThG]
This is interesting, Many possibilities here.

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GLP