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CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?

 
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CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Which one will unveil the Author of the genetic blueprint for life with its three billion symbols- and which one cant?



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stfu FFS you Brooklyn cult troll.
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stfu FFS you Brooklyn cult troll.
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This one didn't get very far.
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Neither.


2 sides of sama old same


awesome LUCk with that!
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Neither.


2 sides of sama old same


awesome LUCk with that!
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Yeah.... no kidding

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stfu FFS you Brooklyn cult troll.
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This one didn't get very far.
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ain't you supposed to be in the windowless dungeon kingdumb haul?
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
stfu FFS you Brooklyn cult troll.
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This one didn't get very far.
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ain't you supposed to be in the windowless dungeon kingdumb haul?
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I'm offering you a window to highest education, how far in can you see?
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Neither.


2 sides of sama old same


awesome LUCk with that!
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Yeah.... no kidding

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sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ?
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neither for as soon as one sets their mind to a firm belief, the unknown no longer exist as they know and stop looking.


Perhaps the thing I liked about the "nobody" , no commitment, no distractions, just watch, learn, heal, share.
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Neither.


2 sides of sama old same


awesome LUCk with that!
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Yeah.... no kidding

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sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ?
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Possibly but.....
"because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
neither for as soon as one sets their mind to a firm belief, the unknown no longer exist as they know and stop looking.


Perhaps the thing I liked about the "nobody" , no commitment, no distractions, just watch, learn, heal, share.
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So then, is it possible that one who was once firmly set in being an atheist, or evolutionist would not change?
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Neither.


2 sides of sama old same


awesome LUCk with that!
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Yeah.... no kidding

 Quoting: DGN


sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Possibly but.....
"because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19
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You mean like this?


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...

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 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Possibly but.....
"because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19
 Quoting: DGN


You mean like this?



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Great Video!

cheers
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Possibly but.....
"because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19
 Quoting: DGN


You mean like this?



 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Great Video!

cheers
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peace
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stfu FFS you Brooklyn cult troll.
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This one didn't get very far.
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No, not far at all

They mastered the "Sentence enhancers" though
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Yeah.... no kidding

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sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Possibly but.....
"because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19
 Quoting: DGN


You mean like this?



 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


or.....like this?


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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Let me ask some better questions.

If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"...

Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what?

a) an Intelligent Designer

b) a Design Intelligence

c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer

Please submit your answers below.

Feel free to add new ones if necessary.
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Let me ask some better questions.

If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"...

Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what?

a) an Intelligent Designer

b) a Design Intelligence

c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer

Please submit your answers below.

Feel free to add new ones if necessary.
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D) They become free of the lies of Evolution and Atheism
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Let me ask some better questions.

If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"...

Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what?

a) an Intelligent Designer

b) a Design Intelligence

c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer

Please submit your answers below.

Feel free to add new ones if necessary.
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:Alienbitch:
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D) They become free of the lies of Evolution and Atheism
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So let me try to understand what you're saying here.

You're not really advocating "Intelligent Design" as a particular belief. You just want to "free" individuals from the dreadful lies of "evolution" because you think that evolution is equivalent to atheism.

Would this be accurate?
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D) They become free of the lies of Evolution and Atheism
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So let me try to understand what you're saying here.

You're not really advocating "Intelligent Design" as a particular belief. You just want to "free" individuals from the dreadful lies of "evolution" because you think that evolution is equivalent to atheism.

Would this be accurate?
 Quoting: StarPath


Intelligent design is obvious

" For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20
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D) They become free of the lies of Evolution and Atheism
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So let me try to understand what you're saying here.

You're not really advocating "Intelligent Design" as a particular belief. You just want to "free" individuals from the dreadful lies of "evolution" because you think that evolution is equivalent to atheism.

Would this be accurate?
 Quoting: StarPath


Intelligent design is obvious

" For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20
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Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist?
Let me ask some better questions.

If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"...

Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what?

a) an Intelligent Designer

b) a Design Intelligence

c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer

Please submit your answers below.

Feel free to add new ones if necessary.
 Quoting: StarPath


An entry level 'scientist', in that he can distinguish between random accident and deliberate manipulation of materials, where as the others can't.
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Intelligent design is obvious

" For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

I think you're mistaking innate ability of human perception with willingness to subject themselves to religious institutions.

Most Atheists are quite aware of "intelligent design" but are quite unwilling to compromise their individual freedom with your religious constraints.

In other words, you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Intelligent design is obvious

" For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

I think you're mistaking innate ability of human perception with willingness to subject themselves to religious institutions.

Most Atheists are quite aware of "intelligent design" but are quite unwilling to compromise their individual freedom with your religious constraints.

In other words, you're barking up the wrong tree.
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"Individual freedom" to do WHAT? not be accountable to God?
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"Individual freedom" to do WHAT? not be accountable to God?
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From what I understand of the atheist mindset, it has little to do with being "accountable to God". They just don't want to be accountable to religious folks.

Can you blame them?
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"Individual freedom" to do WHAT? not be accountable to God?
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From what I understand of the atheist mindset, it has little to do with being "accountable to God". They just don't want to be accountable to religious folks.

Can you blame them?
 Quoting: StarPath


I cant blame people for being turned off to false religion
I am turned off to false religion too, the bible foretold the following:

"For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories"- 2 Timothy 4: 3, 4
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I cant blame people for being turned off to false religion
I am turned off to false religion too, the bible foretold the following:

"For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories"- 2 Timothy 4: 3, 4
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So, here's what we can glean from this discussion.

Most (not all) atheists use their belief in evolution as a rebuttal toward the advances of religious proselytization.

Atheists (not all) are generally capable of discerning "intelligent design" but are adverse toward religion because of personal taste.

Therefore, arguing with atheists about their cosmological views is just underscoring their feelings of being hostile toward religion in general.

We can also further conclude that belief in evolution does not constitute disbelief in God. It would also stand to reason that "evolutionists" are just a manmade construct to differentiate them from religious affiliation (which may be entirely dependent on denominational dogma).
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Intelligent design is obvious

" For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden

I think you're mistaking innate ability of human perception with willingness to subject themselves to religious institutions.

Most Atheists are quite aware of "intelligent design" but are quite unwilling to compromise their individual freedom with your religious constraints.

In other words, you're barking up the wrong tree.
 Quoting: StarPath


Hardly;
" These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one." 2Pe2:17
He's talking about slaves to futility.





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