CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? | |
DGN
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DGN
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DGN
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DGN
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CelestialMaiden
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 462755 United States 07/21/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? neither for as soon as one sets their mind to a firm belief, the unknown no longer exist as they know and stop looking. Perhaps the thing I liked about the "nobody" , no commitment, no distractions, just watch, learn, heal, share. |
DGN
User ID: 43797910 United States 07/21/2013 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ? Possibly but..... "because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19 |
CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? neither for as soon as one sets their mind to a firm belief, the unknown no longer exist as they know and stop looking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 462755 Perhaps the thing I liked about the "nobody" , no commitment, no distractions, just watch, learn, heal, share. So then, is it possible that one who was once firmly set in being an atheist, or evolutionist would not change? |
CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ? Possibly but..... "because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19 You mean like this? |
Celtic Ranger
User ID: 37513297 United States 07/21/2013 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Possibly but..... "because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19 You mean like this? Great Video! Be civil to all; sociable to many; familiar with few; friend to one; enemy to none. Benjamin Franklin |
CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Possibly but..... "because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19 You mean like this? Great Video! |
CelestialMaiden
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CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? sooooo....if someone can learn a Rubik's cube in fifteen minutes, then maybe there is hope ? Possibly but..... "because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship," Ro1:19 You mean like this? or.....like this? |
StarPath
User ID: 27243460 United States 07/21/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Let me ask some better questions. If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"... Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what? a) an Intelligent Designer b) a Design Intelligence c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer Please submit your answers below. Feel free to add new ones if necessary. |
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CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Let me ask some better questions. Quoting: StarPath If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"... Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what? a) an Intelligent Designer b) a Design Intelligence c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer Please submit your answers below. Feel free to add new ones if necessary. D) They become free of the lies of Evolution and Atheism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 07/21/2013 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Let me ask some better questions. Quoting: StarPath If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"... Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what? a) an Intelligent Designer b) a Design Intelligence c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer Please submit your answers below. Feel free to add new ones if necessary. :Alienbitch: |
StarPath
User ID: 27243460 United States 07/21/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? So let me try to understand what you're saying here. You're not really advocating "Intelligent Design" as a particular belief. You just want to "free" individuals from the dreadful lies of "evolution" because you think that evolution is equivalent to atheism. Would this be accurate? |
CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? So let me try to understand what you're saying here. You're not really advocating "Intelligent Design" as a particular belief. You just want to "free" individuals from the dreadful lies of "evolution" because you think that evolution is equivalent to atheism. Would this be accurate? Intelligent design is obvious " For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 United States 07/21/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? So let me try to understand what you're saying here. You're not really advocating "Intelligent Design" as a particular belief. You just want to "free" individuals from the dreadful lies of "evolution" because you think that evolution is equivalent to atheism. Would this be accurate? Intelligent design is obvious " For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20 [link to www.lloydpye.com] |
DGN
User ID: 43797910 United States 07/21/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Let me ask some better questions. Quoting: StarPath If an adherent to evolution becomes an "Evolutionist"... Then an adherent to intelligent design becomes what? a) an Intelligent Designer b) a Design Intelligence c) neither Intelligent nor a Designer Please submit your answers below. Feel free to add new ones if necessary. An entry level 'scientist', in that he can distinguish between random accident and deliberate manipulation of materials, where as the others can't. Last Edited by DGN on 07/21/2013 08:46 PM |
StarPath
User ID: 27243460 United States 07/21/2013 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Intelligent design is obvious Quoting: CelestialMaiden " For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20 I think you're mistaking innate ability of human perception with willingness to subject themselves to religious institutions. Most Atheists are quite aware of "intelligent design" but are quite unwilling to compromise their individual freedom with your religious constraints. In other words, you're barking up the wrong tree. |
CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Intelligent design is obvious Quoting: CelestialMaiden " For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20 I think you're mistaking innate ability of human perception with willingness to subject themselves to religious institutions. Most Atheists are quite aware of "intelligent design" but are quite unwilling to compromise their individual freedom with your religious constraints. In other words, you're barking up the wrong tree. "Individual freedom" to do WHAT? not be accountable to God? |
StarPath
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CelestialMaiden
(OP) User ID: 30718771 United States 07/21/2013 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? From what I understand of the atheist mindset, it has little to do with being "accountable to God". They just don't want to be accountable to religious folks. Can you blame them? I cant blame people for being turned off to false religion I am turned off to false religion too, the bible foretold the following: "For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories"- 2 Timothy 4: 3, 4 |
StarPath
User ID: 27243460 United States 07/21/2013 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? I cant blame people for being turned off to false religion Quoting: CelestialMaiden I am turned off to false religion too, the bible foretold the following: "For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories"- 2 Timothy 4: 3, 4 So, here's what we can glean from this discussion. Most (not all) atheists use their belief in evolution as a rebuttal toward the advances of religious proselytization. Atheists (not all) are generally capable of discerning "intelligent design" but are adverse toward religion because of personal taste. Therefore, arguing with atheists about their cosmological views is just underscoring their feelings of being hostile toward religion in general. We can also further conclude that belief in evolution does not constitute disbelief in God. It would also stand to reason that "evolutionists" are just a manmade construct to differentiate them from religious affiliation (which may be entirely dependent on denominational dogma). |
DGN
User ID: 43797910 United States 07/21/2013 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: CHALLENGE: Which one is more likely to recognize intelligent design- An Atheist or an Evolutionist? Intelligent design is obvious Quoting: CelestialMaiden " For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened"-Romans 1:20 I think you're mistaking innate ability of human perception with willingness to subject themselves to religious institutions. Most Atheists are quite aware of "intelligent design" but are quite unwilling to compromise their individual freedom with your religious constraints. In other words, you're barking up the wrong tree. Hardly; " These are fountains without water, and mists driven by a violent storm, and for them the blackness of darkness has been reserved. 18 For they utter swelling expressions of no profit, and by the desires of the flesh and by loose habits they entice those who are just escaping from people who conduct themselves in error. 19 While they are promising them freedom, they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption. For whoever is overcome by another is enslaved by this one." 2Pe2:17 He's talking about slaves to futility. |