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A Spiritual Experience that Answered as Much as it Created New Sets of Questions

 
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Congrats, OP.

To anyone reading this: Consider for a minute all of the things you think you have "learned....."

Many of those things you were merely TOLD and did not truly learn them for yourself.

So, how can they be true at all?
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I have found the books Oneness and A Journey to Oneness by Rasha, VERY HELPFUL. A lot of it correlates with what the OP and others and myself have experienced.


Thanks so much for reading my looong post and answering. I will check out the books you have suggested.
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It saddens me to see so many sheep-apes jump up and down repeating the same "Jesus is the way" stuff that has been drilled into them.

You poor animals don't know the first thing about the personal currently know as "Jesus."

He was a basically an Atlantean Buddhist, guys.

He was a man who became enlightened - one of MANY - and spent the rest of his life trying to get the word into the THICK skulls of the sheep-apes.

2000 years later, you sheep-apes are STILL not hearing the message, but repeating what Emperor Constantine and his flunky, Piso, decided you should hear.

It's time to wake up, sheep-apes.

You are gods trapped in the bodies of genetically engineered ape-creatures.

That's all this "Jesus" character was trying to tell you.
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It saddens me to see so many sheep-apes jump up and down repeating the same "Jesus is the way" stuff that has been drilled into them.

You poor animals don't know the first thing about the personal currently know as "Jesus."

He was a basically an Atlantean Buddhist, guys.

He was a man who became enlightened - one of MANY - and spent the rest of his life trying to get the word into the THICK skulls of the sheep-apes.

2000 years later, you sheep-apes are STILL not hearing the message, but repeating what Emperor Constantine and his flunky, Piso, decided you should hear.

It's time to wake up, sheep-apes.

You are gods trapped in the bodies of genetically engineered ape-creatures.

That's all this "Jesus" character was trying to tell you.
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Ya! And Jesus' last name isn't CHRIST, he is "the Christ," as in he attained the "higher powers." The God power inside us what Egyptian's called "christ consciousness." It's something that's in all people.

Jesus might damn well be a metaphor for the ascension of this Christ consciousness. He is 33 years old (like the 33 vertebrae in Hindu Chakra ascension, or the 33 degrees in Freemasonry). Jesus' (ego) DIED on the CROSS to a higher world.
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OP, you really are going to get endless flack until you find a completely new circle of people.

When I was 19, I picked up "The Three Pillars of Zen" and, always having beginners luck, I was struck with premature enlightenment after only a couple weeks of meditation.

Minutes after seeing the light, I floated outside and went for a "walk" where I floated down the college boulevard I lived on with a huge beaming smile and light coming out of me.

Every time I got within 30 yards of a person, they would move away as far as they could. It dawned on me that these people were addicted to their little universes and would NOT be shaken out of them. They literally could not stand a person at the level of vibration I had (briefly) attained.

As I struggled to explain what I had realized to the people I knew, I was told that I was wrong and that it was bad... even by the people who pretended to be spiritual and esoteric.

Looking back, I see that most 19 year olds are dumb as a box of rocks and that we/they ALL insist on learning everything from scratch. Chalk it up to the current power structure and every detail that entails.

Because I wasn't ready and nobody around me was ready, I sank back down to the mud vibration. It was 20 years before I realized what had happened and where I should go from here. But, it's very easy to sink back down because dealing with the world requires mud vibration.

Good luck!
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I have found the books Oneness and A Journey to Oneness by Rasha, VERY HELPFUL. A lot of it correlates with what the OP and others and myself have experienced.


Thanks so much for reading my looong post and answering. I will check out the books you have suggested.


You're welcome! I think she has a website too so you can get the gist of what she shares.
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Holy shit. Let me clear something up right now...because people aren't smart enough to read themselves...


I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN. BUT NOW I'M SEEING SOMEONE WHO I WILL LIKELY HAVE CHILDREN WITH SOME DAY.

I NEVER MENTIONED HAVING ANY CHILDREN.

I WAS MARRIED FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS, NOT A DAMN LIFETIME.

MY WIFE WAS HAPPY, I WAS NOT. NOW WE'RE BOTH HAPPY. IT HAS FULFILLED BOTH OF US.

It is pretty apparent to me who the foolish ones are at this point...the questions I had were answered by the Christians themselves, it appears, who have now appeared (in this particular thread alone) as book-thumpers with no real arguments but plenty of "intent" (which, to me, is just blabbering any more...doesn't even make any sense to me). If you truly understood the scriptures, then this experience wouldn't be a problem...

First time I've ever said this, but seriously...

Bible Tards.
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Certain individuals choose to live inside boxes of their own creation. The boxes are constructed from fears. Fear of the unknown, fear of death, fear of foreign ideas or experiences, fear of exploring the inner-depths of one's consciousness, fear of bringing one's subconscious 'baggage' to the surface, etc etc.

The thing is they aren't aware they're living in a box - but they like it in there. Why? Well it's familiar, it's predictable, it never changes, it's good at blocking out the light of the 'scary' Universe, and it keeps them sheltered and saves them the discomfort of having to confront and acknowledge the sheer diversity and vastness of the human experience.

When they come across personal testimonies & experiences like yours - it is particularly troubling to them. For they would have to step outside of the cozy confines of their boxes to be able to actually comprehend the real nature of those experiences and to be able to truly consider (with an open mind) the perspective from which you are speaking. It's far too uncomfortable for them to exist outside of their boxes - even temporarily.

So what do they do? They will seek to deny/reject your experiences in any manner that is convenient for them and self-serving. They will go after your character to discredit you, they will claim you are ignorant/misled/deceived, they will even go so far as to claim that an invisible, man-made, mythological entity has created false experiences and possessed your mind . They will pretend that they (without even knowing you) can actually know better than you what you have experienced and how it has actually affected you life. They will dangle the 'heaven' carrot in your face and threaten to withhold it from you if you do not conform. If you're lucky, you may even be threatened with 'eternal damnation' - not for any crime you've committed of course, but for daring to experience life outside of their boxes. You see they will do whatever it takes to try and lure you back into their boxes - where THEY feel SAFE.

They won't ask you questions with an open-mind or inquire for more details before reacting - they will just jump straight to the accusations & conditional judgement. They will continue to project their very own subconscious fears & insecurities onto you because you exist outside their 'comfort zone' and because your testimony evokes discomfort and cognitive dissonance. They can't reconcile those fears & insecurities within - so they set their targets on you instead.

They've already made up their mind - they're content inside their boxes and they're not leaving them under any circumstances.


anon anon anon anon anon anon anon anon anon anon
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Now THAT is an excellent post and very well said. I wish I wasn't out of green because you deserve it. That really puts the human condition out on the table and there is much truth to that.

And it's not always fear either, simply an ego thinking how could someone have that when they themselves haven't experienced such things? Open mind and open heart will go a long way.
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I second that motion! Could not have said it better myself. Well said ANHEDONIC! I'll give you +1!
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Very well said!!
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Certain individuals choose to live inside boxes of their own creation. The boxes are constructed from fears. Fear of the unknown, fear of death, fear of foreign ideas or experiences, fear of exploring the inner-depths of one's consciousness, fear of bringing one's subconscious 'baggage' to the surface, etc etc.

The thing is they aren't aware they're living in a box - but they like it in there. Why? Well it's familiar, it's predictable, it never changes, it's good at blocking out the light of the 'scary' Universe, and it keeps them sheltered and saves them the discomfort of having to confront and acknowledge the sheer diversity and vastness of the human experience.

When they come across personal testimonies & experiences like yours - it is particularly troubling to them. For they would have to step outside of the cozy confines of their boxes to be able to actually comprehend the real nature of those experiences and to be able to truly consider (with an open mind) the perspective from which you are speaking. It's far too uncomfortable for them to exist outside of their boxes - even temporarily.

So what do they do? They will seek to deny/reject your experiences in any manner that is convenient for them and self-serving. They will go after your character to discredit you, they will claim you are ignorant/misled/deceived, they will even go so far as to claim that an invisible, man-made, mythological entity has created false experiences and possessed your mind . They will pretend that they (without even knowing you) can actually know better than you what you have experienced and how it has actually affected you life. They will dangle the 'heaven' carrot in your face and threaten to withhold it from you if you do not conform. If you're lucky, you may even be threatened with 'eternal damnation' - not for any crime you've committed of course, but for daring to experience life outside of their boxes. You see they will do whatever it takes to try and lure you back into their boxes - where THEY feel SAFE.

They won't ask you questions with an open-mind or inquire for more details before reacting - they will just jump straight to the accusations & conditional judgement. They will continue to project their very own subconscious fears & insecurities onto you because you exist outside their 'comfort zone' and because your testimony evokes discomfort and cognitive dissonance. They can't reconcile those fears & insecurities within - so they set their targets on you instead.

They've already made up their mind - they're content inside their boxes and they're not leaving them under any circumstances.


anon anon anon anon anon anon anon anon anon anon
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Now THAT is an excellent post and very well said. I wish I wasn't out of green because you deserve it. That really puts the human condition out on the table and there is much truth to that.

And it's not always fear either, simply an ego thinking how could someone have that when they themselves haven't experienced such things? Open mind and open heart will go a long way.
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I second that motion! Could not have said it better myself. Well said ANHEDONIC! I'll give you +1!
 Quoting: ATONTRUTH


Very well said!!
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I am not out of green so I passed one for you. :)

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On 13 March 2013 I had an extraordinary spiritual experience. I will try and keep it brief so it's readable.

I had a spontaneous Sahasrara Awakening. It was incredible. I literally saw a light in the upper-left portion of my peripheral vision that I couldn't discover the source of. It remained for three days.

Previous to this experience I was a die-hard Christian. Typical GOP member, etc. This put into question every single thing I'd ever learned in my lifetime. It was nothing like anything I'd ever been taught...and it confirmed things that seemed to contradict a lifetime of searching with actual answers.

During that 3-day period I was in a state of mind where it seemed like I was "spiritually downloading" information and my life's purpose. Everything became very apparent whenever I would read a subject or really involve myself in anything. I saw life completely differently - managing to incorporate Buddhist beliefs into my life rather quickly, even though I'd only roughly scanned the subjects during my 30+ years. I instantly KNEW everything that was meaningful to me spiritually (and even tangibly). I saw the "game" of life...and that the majority of us were pawns to different paradigms - i.e. religious, political, and social. I believe it was Enlightenment...the Awakening...

It wasn't anything I was searching out, but it was preceded by a tremendous life upheaval and change in everything from the top-down in my life. In February I felt this pressing desire to leave my job, my wife, and my home and pursue my destiny. Little did I know that it would lead to such a thing...

And slowly, over the past 6 months, it's as if all of the things that I'd only dreamed about my entire life are suddenly coming to me without any effort whatsoever. It's almost as if I just waggle my finger a little bit and the spells cast themselves...

Where it's been confusing is it has almost completely eliminated my need for anything beyond this experience. I'm in a position where I'm not sure about the existence of deity beyond a superconscious Creator...it has even put into question the idea of Jesus, which is, in some ways, hard to abandon...I'm not sure if/how that part of the "story" fits in any more. It always made sense to me previous to this, but now I'm wondering if this is just the goal of every living being - to abandon the things we WANT to be true, for the things that really are true.

It's been this tidal wave of realization and perception. I've never felt closer, and yet farther, from KNOWING. Has anyone else ever had this happen? I know I'm going to get some vitriol here, but I'm prepared for it...as I've already gone the rounds with some family members who can't even comprehend what's occurred and who cling to their own ideologies so tightly that one would be lucky to pry them from their cold, dead hands. ;)

Thanks for responding. I have a busy day today, but I'll do my best to keep the conversation going if it starts up...

lala
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But...you're leaving your family for this? A selfish act? And you believe this is a "good" thing? Just saying..We are responsible to others in this world. Never foreget..
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Oh, boy, where to begin. :)

I've been seeking peace and enlightenment. I have been under the same weight of religion.

A couple of months ago, I was at the gym and had been swimming for an hour or so. I got out and hit the showers. While I was standing there with my eyes closed, I saw a bright flash of light. I opened my eyes and all was normal, but when I closed my eyes I could still see this light. It was as if I had been clobbered with a super bright flashbulb. It lasted for a couple of minutes.

Honestly, I was wondering if I had a brain tumor and this was a symptom of it. LOL But I've not had anything like this happen since and I am physically fine and in overall good health.
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I had a similar experience but the single bright flash occurred while my eyes were open. A year later I happened to be reading 'Astral Dynamics' by Robert Bruce and he had a chapter describing various energy related sensations/phenomena that one may encounter or experience and I was shocked to see he made a direct mention of this. He referred to it as a Brow-Center Strobe and had this to say:

- An occasional result of primary center (energy body) and OBE exit work involves a flash of brilliant light in the mind's eye, seen with eyes open or shut. This is like a powerful camera flash going off at close range

-This is a natural energy phenomenon and an excellent sign of spiritual development. This also indicates the presence of strong visual mind's eye and creative abilities, although these may be unrealized at the time. A brow center strobe can involve a brilliant flash of white or silver light, or, more rarely, a brilliant flash of purple or violet light. Other colors may be possible.
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So, anyway, I'm thinking, oh yes, I'm moving forward. And sometimes I guess I am, but other times, I find myself getting frustrated and angry and disillusioned. As if the "old me" is fighting with what I really want to be like and this "old me" is really showing its ass, if you know what I mean. LOL
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I think your analysis is spot on regarding the bolded.

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OP to rule this out, get your eyes checked

Flashers

Flashers are random occurrences of flashing white lights that occur as symptoms of retinal detachment. They can occur at seemingly random moments, or they can occur when you move your eye in a particular way. The lights can either be spots of white light, or they can be overwhelming flashes of white light that can temporarily blind you. As your case of retinal detachment gets progressively worse, you will begin to experience flashers more frequently.
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Oh, boy, where to begin. :)

I've been seeking peace and enlightenment. I have been under the same weight of religion.

A couple of months ago, I was at the gym and had been swimming for an hour or so. I got out and hit the showers. While I was standing there with my eyes closed, I saw a bright flash of light. I opened my eyes and all was normal, but when I closed my eyes I could still see this light. It was as if I had been clobbered with a super bright flashbulb. It lasted for a couple of minutes.

Honestly, I was wondering if I had a brain tumor and this was a symptom of it. LOL But I've not had anything like this happen since and I am physically fine and in overall good health.
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I had a similar experience but the single bright flash occurred while my eyes were open. A year later I was reading 'Astral Dynamics' by Robert Bruce and he had a chapter describing various energy related sensations/phenomena that one may encounter or experience and I was shocked to see he made a direct mention of this. He referred to it as a Brow-Center Strobe and had this to say:

- An occasional result of primary center (energy body) and OBE exit work involves a flash of brilliant light in the mind's eye, seen with eyes open or shut. This is like a powerful camera flash going off at close range

-This is a natural energy phenomenon and an excellent sign of spiritual development. This also indicates the presence of strong visual mind's eye and creative abilities, although these may be unrealized at the time. A brow center strobe can involve a brilliant flash of white or silver light, or, more rarely, a brilliant flash of purple or violet light. Other colors may be possible.
[link to www.amazon.com]

So, anyway, I'm thinking, oh yes, I'm moving forward. And sometimes I guess I am, but other times, I find myself getting frustrated and angry and disillusioned. As if the "old me" is fighting with what I really want to be like and this "old me" is really showing its ass, if you know what I mean. LOL
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I think your analysis is spot on regarding the bolded.

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Thanks for the info on that bright light, after it happened I was looking around for info and couldn't seem to bring anything up about it online, which I thought was odd at the time.
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Congrats OP hf

Everyone will have an spiritual awaking at some point in their life if you generate love and compassion from ones heart. Pieces of the puzzle will come together and you will remember who you really are.


You are not a human having a spiritual experience, you are a spirit, having a human experience. You are awakening!


Others that have not had this experience, your time is coming very soon.

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I'm longing for that all my life! (Btw, seeing 11:11 combinations daily)

OP, do you remember anything that set off your experience? Food, or lack thereof, illness, accident, anything?

Edit: ok, read the Alan Watts bit, care to share which lecture or clip that was?
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Thanks for the info on that bright light, after it happened I was looking around for info and couldn't seem to bring anything up about it online, which I thought was odd at the time.
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No problem.

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On 13 March 2013 I had an extraordinary spiritual experience. I will try and keep it brief so it's readable.

I had a spontaneous Sahasrara Awakening. It was incredible. I literally saw a light in the upper-left portion of my peripheral vision that I couldn't discover the source of. It remained for three days.

Previous to this experience I was a die-hard Christian. Typical GOP member, etc. This put into question every single thing I'd ever learned in my lifetime. It was nothing like anything I'd ever been taught...and it confirmed things that seemed to contradict a lifetime of searching with actual answers.

During that 3-day period I was in a state of mind where it seemed like I was "spiritually downloading" information and my life's purpose. Everything became very apparent whenever I would read a subject or really involve myself in anything. I saw life completely differently - managing to incorporate Buddhist beliefs into my life rather quickly, even though I'd only roughly scanned the subjects during my 30+ years. I instantly KNEW everything that was meaningful to me spiritually (and even tangibly). I saw the "game" of life...and that the majority of us were pawns to different paradigms - i.e. religious, political, and social. I believe it was Enlightenment...the Awakening...

It wasn't anything I was searching out, but it was preceded by a tremendous life upheaval and change in everything from the top-down in my life. In February I felt this pressing desire to leave my job, my wife, and my home and pursue my destiny. Little did I know that it would lead to such a thing...

And slowly, over the past 6 months, it's as if all of the things that I'd only dreamed about my entire life are suddenly coming to me without any effort whatsoever. It's almost as if I just waggle my finger a little bit and the spells cast themselves...

Where it's been confusing is it has almost completely eliminated my need for anything beyond this experience. I'm in a position where I'm not sure about the existence of deity beyond a superconscious Creator...it has even put into question the idea of Jesus, which is, in some ways, hard to abandon...I'm not sure if/how that part of the "story" fits in any more. It always made sense to me previous to this, but now I'm wondering if this is just the goal of every living being - to abandon the things we WANT to be true, for the things that really are true.

It's been this tidal wave of realization and perception. I've never felt closer, and yet farther, from KNOWING. Has anyone else ever had this happen? I know I'm going to get some vitriol here, but I'm prepared for it...as I've already gone the rounds with some family members who can't even comprehend what's occurred and who cling to their own ideologies so tightly that one would be lucky to pry them from their cold, dead hands. ;)

Thanks for responding. I have a busy day today, but I'll do my best to keep the conversation going if it starts up...

lala
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May i ask did the golden ball of light come from above, or below? their is a different meaning if so.

I have experienced, as crazy as this event seems, it is only the beginning, enjoy your roller coaster my friend :)
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First off, I am very pleased for you that this has occurred in your life. I must feel fantastic. <3 <3
I really wish I knew how to have a spiritual experience like this. I have tried and tried and tried and I don't know how many more times I have to tell Jesus I have accepted him but all I get is "nothing" back. No epiphany, no magical talkings in my head....no wonderous people to show up and accept me into this new life. I get nothing. Nothing ever happens. Each time that I have tried...I have been 110%+ sure of what I was doing. Each time, I knew Jesus would talk to me or I would feel him in my heart. What happens is heartening alright, heart-breaking. So I have come to the conclusion that his road must not be the right road I should travel on. I haven't found my road yet and God knows I have tried.

Any pointers? For someone like me, looking into wanting more spirituality in my life, where do I start. Please don't say the bible. I have been reading it. I have a real one sitting by the computer and I have one downloaded onto the computer and I have one in the living room and I have been reading and reading and reading. It talks in circles and makes me dizzy.
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First off, I am very pleased for you that this has occurred in your life. I must feel fantastic. <3 <3
I really wish I knew how to have a spiritual experience like this. I have tried and tried and tried and I don't know how many more times I have to tell Jesus I have accepted him but all I get is "nothing" back. No epiphany, no magical talkings in my head....no wonderous people to show up and accept me into this new life. I get nothing. Nothing ever happens. Each time that I have tried...I have been 110%+ sure of what I was doing. Each time, I knew Jesus would talk to me or I would feel him in my heart. What happens is heartening alright, heart-breaking. So I have come to the conclusion that his road must not be the right road I should travel on. I haven't found my road yet and God knows I have tried.

Any pointers? For someone like me, looking into wanting more spirituality in my life, where do I start. Please don't say the bible. I have been reading it. I have a real one sitting by the computer and I have one downloaded onto the computer and I have one in the living room and I have been reading and reading and reading. It talks in circles and makes me dizzy.
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Sorry in the first sentence, I meant to say, '"It" must feel fantastic'
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After an awakening experience there is an initial phase of disillusionment with the way things are and the things we have learned, but hopefully you will come around again and see how it is that Jesus is the savior and what it means for you. I hope you will come around and see that when you come around the bend in your journey. Just remember that Awakening means its just the beginning. Don't throw everything out, just re-examine everything from your new perspective.
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THIS is the kind of thing I was looking for. Something positive...something that pointed to hope. Not this attacking stuff that's been going on by the people that I used to fellowship with. That's for sure.
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Galatians 4:6 "Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?"

I have not attacked you one bit and I didn't see any attacks from the other christians here, simply shared truth.

But, you have alot of negative comments about christians in general, the people you used to associate with. Sad.

It is what it is. Maybe you'll come back to Jesus someday.
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Just thought I'd post some words I wrote a while ago. Lotta people attacking OP as his experience doesnt fit in with their beliefs, anyways....

Before we are born we are in our mothers womb, connected to her, safe, nourished, blissful non state so to speak. then we are born and woooosh... we enter this new world, our connection is cut in a fashion and here we are :) We are born, perfect, naked beautiful. when people look at us they see perfection mirrored back at them, the beauty of creation, divine in a sense, glowing, they cant label us with anything other than how perfect we are.

then we grow up we form our mind/ego and we try to make sense of the world around us, on top of that we have people telling us what is real, what is right, parents, teachers, society, we are made into our cultural surroundings. we try to fit in, to be normal to understand, all the time building up layers of belief systems around us, like an onion skin, layer upon layer, growing, understanding, forming relationships with people who seem similar. As we go our minds start putting labels on things, people, emotions etc. its natural in the way society(depending on where u live of course) works these days. we are taught to be good, to share, to love to be tolerant etc but it can be hard with so many distractions in this material\consumerist world.

The main goals put on us, get an education, learn, get a good job, meet the person of your dreams, settle down, have kids, . Nothing wrong with that, all beautiful things but money/competition/materialism/consumerism/media/image/self image/ etc puts so much pressures on us as we go along that it hard to keep what is real, easy to become ego/mind lead/ rather than hearth lead. Living on this exterior image attached to the ego.

And they ask you to like this image and connect with it. their labels matched with your labels. if the labels dont match theres friction/division/seperation. So all these labels that we have created for ourselves, for others. think what that has done. religion/race/creed/prince/pauper/fat/slim/happy/ grumpy/ positive/negative. Just have to look at the world around us. its becoming a boiling pot. Our ways have led to so much trouble. anyway im rambling here. im just saying the first thing that comes in my heart and typing :)

Most people go through life oblivious to themselves. Never really asking questions of themselves, never understanding their emotions, where they come from. if they feel down, they buy something shiny or look for outside understanding/help. theyre so busy in this rush rush world that they never stop to really think, theyre on auto pilot. ants in a farm, forming a purpose for the greater good of the ant hill. the hive mind so to speak. they become a human doing rather than a human being :)

so sometimes in life some stuff happens that hits us on a very deep emotional level, an experience, maybe spiritual, loss of job, a loved one what ever. this can be very traumatic and some people try make sense of it and others just forge on, not just stopping and saying time out!! what makes me feel this way whats going on. its important every so often to just stop and let your soul catch up with you

so yeah, some people forge on and say some people start asking questions, not just silly my hair looks crap, etc but real introspective questions related to the SELF, your true nature. You, who are you, what have you become, you take stock of your life, the people around you what is going on, what is this world around you, what is the world inside. slowly your eyes really start to open, your ears really start to hear, your heart sings. you see things differently, this material world which had its grip on you suddenly starts to loose its tight grip, shiny things loose thier importance, desires, need to judge, silly stuff doesnt make sense. belief systems crumble, people can become irritating which were once cool. on and on. as the change takes place as the search goes on as the ego mind starts to loose its hold as your heart starts to open up to the real you, as it burns, feel it, know it, the beauty of it the real, you the true you, always been searching for you looking to know you. quietly sitting theyre in your heart centre, waiting hopeing that one day you would say hi :) so beautiful. sorry im starting to be moved to tears as i write. that true you. inside that spark of divinity thats always there. inside always seeking now as you seek it. see the wonder in you, embrace it know it love it. love you for when you strip away all the onion layers the true you is there which is love no more no less and that is what god\creator\source essence is. not some beardy guy with a deep voice, not someone who judges, nothing but love the most powerful force in the universe. and when you realise this you will look around you and see the beauty in everything else, everybody else. love, compassion, emathy, understanding flow forth

walk in nature see the majesty/perfection of it, little things, youll observe these things more, youll feel them. so beautiful....

Be the love that you are and stay grounded and in balance.
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OP, I am watching this thread with great interest. Please keep posting and keep it going. I also had an experience a few years ago, which had a great impact on me. I feel it was the most important experience of my life. It helps me greatly to hear of others moving down a similar path.

Best wishes! hf
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OP, can you see auras and halos above people's heads?.....When Andromedan contactee Alex Collier met with the Andromedans, they told him that we all have energy fields above our heads....
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Wow wow wow I cannot even believe the way this thread turned. Stunned to the core. Look I am a Christian and some of these Christian post just reek of hate. Smh. You cannot expect to successfully turn anyone to christ if your spewing hatred. It will not work I'm not sure what the problem is it is really not helpful.

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Please speak your mind but please have some compassion and love about it otherwise you will turn them away forever. I would never wish to have that burden on my heart and soul.Love for all of you.hf
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After an awakening experience there is an initial phase of disillusionment with the way things are and the things we have learned, but hopefully you will come around again and see how it is that Jesus is the savior and what it means for you. I hope you will come around and see that when you come around the bend in your journey. Just remember that Awakening means its just the beginning. Don't throw everything out, just re-examine everything from your new perspective.
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THIS is the kind of thing I was looking for. Something positive...something that pointed to hope. Not this attacking stuff that's been going on by the people that I used to fellowship with. That's for sure.
 Quoting: ElectricKoolaid


Oh, boy, where to begin. :)

I've been seeking peace and enlightenment. I have been under the same weight of religion.

A couple of months ago, I was at the gym and had been swimming for an hour or so. I got out and hit the showers. While I was standing there with my eyes closed, I saw a bright flash of light. I opened my eyes and all was normal, but when I closed my eyes I could still see this light. It was as if I had been clobbered with a super bright flashbulb. It lasted for a couple of minutes.

Honestly, I was wondering if I had a brain tumor and this was a symptom of it. LOL But I've not had anything like this happen since and I am physically fine and in overall good health.

So, anyway, I'm thinking, oh yes, I'm moving forward. And sometimes I guess I am, but other times, I find myself getting frustrated and angry and disillusioned. As if the "old me" is fighting with what I really want to be like and this "old me" is really showing its ass, if you know what I mean. LOL

But I am also finding a lot of synchronicity lately and am waiting for the magic to start to happen. I just have to work on myself more, I guess. And decide what I REALLY want. My problem is I don't want anything for myself, really, I have more than I need. I think I need to find a way to serve others. That is what life is truly about, isn't it?

I thought it would be smooth sailing mentally, but it is not.
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The answer for me was to broaden my core beliefs - namely love & charity. And then my spirit started craving answers before my brain even knew what was happening. You may even start to find yourself looking at your life and seeing it not set up the way you imagined it - that's when the unwind is ready to occur. You have to be brave enough to abandon this idea that you should just plod along in misery and expect something in the afterlife - heaven is NOW. It isn't some attainable thing...it is literally meant to be experienced in THIS life. You have to be willing to shake your life up to get it back to a genuine one (one that would best serve the greatest good). A lot of people will fight against you (kick against the pricks) during the process. They'll tell you you're stupid and disloyal, etc. like many in this thread have called me...

...but knowing what I know now I would DEFINITELY do it all over again. Worth every little bit of suffering. And I had to make a LOT of changes to get here. But it was well worth every single one.
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OP, can you see auras and halos above people's heads?.....When Andromedan contactee Alex Collier met with the Andromedans, they told him that we all have energy fields above our heads....
 Quoting: Solar Guardian


I haven't seen anything on anyone else, but I have been able to basically shake down people spiritually very quickly now. It's as if I can see what they're struggling with within just a few moments of observation...and then the answers come to me.

When I first had the experience there was a moment where my dog was getting a skin infection and I didn't have the means to take him to the vet at the time...I scooped him up in my arms and wept over him, emanating love from my pineal gland (didn't know that's what it was at the time, but I can literally feel the pull from the front of my head often when I'm spiritually peaking now) and he was literally healed of it THAT DAY.

It had been going on for a couple of weeks and I was extremely worried about him and how I would be able to care for it.

Miracle of miracles.
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Just thought I'd post some words I wrote a while ago. Lotta people attacking OP as his experience doesnt fit in with their beliefs, anyways....

Before we are born we are in our mothers womb, connected to her, safe, nourished, blissful non state so to speak. then we are born and woooosh... we enter this new world, our connection is cut in a fashion and here we are :) We are born, perfect, naked beautiful. when people look at us they see perfection mirrored back at them, the beauty of creation, divine in a sense, glowing, they cant label us with anything other than how perfect we are.

then we grow up we form our mind/ego and we try to make sense of the world around us, on top of that we have people telling us what is real, what is right, parents, teachers, society, we are made into our cultural surroundings. we try to fit in, to be normal to understand, all the time building up layers of belief systems around us, like an onion skin, layer upon layer, growing, understanding, forming relationships with people who seem similar. As we go our minds start putting labels on things, people, emotions etc. its natural in the way society(depending on where u live of course) works these days. we are taught to be good, to share, to love to be tolerant etc but it can be hard with so many distractions in this material\consumerist world.

The main goals put on us, get an education, learn, get a good job, meet the person of your dreams, settle down, have kids, . Nothing wrong with that, all beautiful things but money/competition/materialism/consumerism/media/image/self image/ etc puts so much pressures on us as we go along that it hard to keep what is real, easy to become ego/mind lead/ rather than hearth lead. Living on this exterior image attached to the ego.

And they ask you to like this image and connect with it. their labels matched with your labels. if the labels dont match theres friction/division/seperation. So all these labels that we have created for ourselves, for others. think what that has done. religion/race/creed/prince/pauper/fat/slim/happy/ grumpy/ positive/negative. Just have to look at the world around us. its becoming a boiling pot. Our ways have led to so much trouble. anyway im rambling here. im just saying the first thing that comes in my heart and typing :)

Most people go through life oblivious to themselves. Never really asking questions of themselves, never understanding their emotions, where they come from. if they feel down, they buy something shiny or look for outside understanding/help. theyre so busy in this rush rush world that they never stop to really think, theyre on auto pilot. ants in a farm, forming a purpose for the greater good of the ant hill. the hive mind so to speak. they become a human doing rather than a human being :)

so sometimes in life some stuff happens that hits us on a very deep emotional level, an experience, maybe spiritual, loss of job, a loved one what ever. this can be very traumatic and some people try make sense of it and others just forge on, not just stopping and saying time out!! what makes me feel this way whats going on. its important every so often to just stop and let your soul catch up with you

so yeah, some people forge on and say some people start asking questions, not just silly my hair looks crap, etc but real introspective questions related to the SELF, your true nature. You, who are you, what have you become, you take stock of your life, the people around you what is going on, what is this world around you, what is the world inside. slowly your eyes really start to open, your ears really start to hear, your heart sings. you see things differently, this material world which had its grip on you suddenly starts to loose its tight grip, shiny things loose thier importance, desires, need to judge, silly stuff doesnt make sense. belief systems crumble, people can become irritating which were once cool. on and on. as the change takes place as the search goes on as the ego mind starts to loose its hold as your heart starts to open up to the real you, as it burns, feel it, know it, the beauty of it the real, you the true you, always been searching for you looking to know you. quietly sitting theyre in your heart centre, waiting hopeing that one day you would say hi :) so beautiful. sorry im starting to be moved to tears as i write. that true you. inside that spark of divinity thats always there. inside always seeking now as you seek it. see the wonder in you, embrace it know it love it. love you for when you strip away all the onion layers the true you is there which is love no more no less and that is what god\creator\source essence is. not some beardy guy with a deep voice, not someone who judges, nothing but love the most powerful force in the universe. and when you realise this you will look around you and see the beauty in everything else, everybody else. love, compassion, emathy, understanding flow forth

walk in nature see the majesty/perfection of it, little things, youll observe these things more, youll feel them. so beautiful....

Be the love that you are and stay grounded and in balance.
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On my way to work, but I really want to respond to this. I will have to do it later tonight. Thank you!
-- EK
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After an awakening experience there is an initial phase of disillusionment with the way things are and the things we have learned, but hopefully you will come around again and see how it is that Jesus is the savior and what it means for you. I hope you will come around and see that when you come around the bend in your journey. Just remember that Awakening means its just the beginning. Don't throw everything out, just re-examine everything from your new perspective.
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THIS is the kind of thing I was looking for. Something positive...something that pointed to hope. Not this attacking stuff that's been going on by the people that I used to fellowship with. That's for sure.
 Quoting: ElectricKoolaid


Galatians 4:6 "Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?"

I have not attacked you one bit and I didn't see any attacks from the other christians here, simply shared truth.

But, you have alot of negative comments about christians in general, the people you used to associate with. Sad.

It is what it is. Maybe you'll come back to Jesus someday.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I didn't address you specifically that I know of...
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Congrats OP hf

Everyone will have an spiritual awaking at some point in their life if you generate love and compassion from ones heart. Pieces of the puzzle will come together and you will remember who you really are.


You are not a human having a spiritual experience, you are a spirit, having a human experience. You are awakening!


Others that have not had this experience, your time is coming very soon.

Love not fear
 Quoting: ..11:11..


I'm longing for that all my life! (Btw, seeing 11:11 combinations daily)

OP, do you remember anything that set off your experience? Food, or lack thereof, illness, accident, anything?

Edit: ok, read the Alan Watts bit, care to share which lecture or clip that was?
 Quoting: tuuuuur


I was listening to various lectures and can't remember the specific one...but this is the one I was listening to over and over right before I left on my "journey" that culminated in the change...

Just listening to it now immediately put me there again (without the light of course - that's been impossible to recreate so far, but everything else just comes second nature now).


-- EK
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Just sharing. Why? Cause i can. peace

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Thanks for sharing OP, Wonderful!





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