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Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming

 
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
It appears to be true

July 26 2013
Treasury statement:

[link to www.fms.treas.gov (secure)]

May 17 2013
Treasury statement:

[link to fms.treas.gov (secure)]

$16,699,396,000,000.00

on both!
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I'm at a loss for words while at the same time nothing and I mean nothing surprises me with this administration running things

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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
The national debt was not frozen as far as I could tell. In fact it's growing (imagine that - lol).

Here is the link from the Treasury Department

[link to www.treasurydirect.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30075865


Be aware however that this fiscal train is a runaway train heading for a head on collision that will make the great depression look like child's play.

I fear there will be great loss globally when it does occur.

There are far too many links (legitimate) to back this up.

Google the information which will snowball and blow your mind!

Sorry for the bad news......
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You are quite right!
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The arrogance that the 17 trillion figure represents, is a dead giveaway.

Nobody wants to step forward and just say want everyone wants to say.
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It appears to be true

July 26 2013
Treasury statement:

[link to www.fms.treas.gov (secure)]

May 17 2013
Treasury statement:

[link to fms.treas.gov (secure)]

$16,699,396,000,000.00

on both!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44187685


added that to my op..with credit to you. thanks!
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Shes gonna blow! Another melt down on the way..just wait and see...once the derivative market and this new crap start twerking then BLAM! No more money ..and hopefully no more Federal Reserve Bank.
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119 mph on a 50 mph curve. What happens in every case ?

Derailment

They think they can pull off the charade again but its too late. The economic engine is stalling out. Everywhere you look there's trouble brewing.... !
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
The administration actually doesn't care about the debt...they have no intention of paying it off...they are going to purposefully crash the system...seize all bank accounts..ie..checking, savings, ira's and pay off the national debt with it.
The Federal Reserve will be no more, the dollar isnt worth anything anymore.

Just watch...when you see the big banks start complaining about how they need more money and another bail out..then that's the sign...congress and the American people will not bail them out again.

Then all hell's going to break lose ...make the Great Depression look like a cake walk.

One good thing that MAY come out of this is if you are paying a mortgage or have a federal student loan...then there is a chance that your mortgage and federal loan will GO AWAY...meaning if the banks are broke they can't take your house ...which means..your mortgage would be considered paid as well as any Federal Loan you had because the FED would not exist in America anymore and we as a nation would be out of debt and owe no country anything...IF THEY DO IT THAT WAY!

IF NOT...we're all screwed until they can come up with a different currency.
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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Thanks for the info GT. This one is just insane!!!!!
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
119 mph on a 50 mph curve. What happens in every case ?

Derailment

They think they can pull off the charade again but its too late. The economic engine is stalling out. Everywhere you look there's trouble brewing.... !
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


And, yet, when you go out, you still see people charging senseless things and eating out and living the high life...

makes me wonder...are they all just living for today?
Are they the ones who will be trying to rob us when shtf?

I am not just talking "richies", either..these people cannot afford to be doing what they are doing..

Instead of preparing, they are splurging...

I look at everyone I know now and categorize them..

useless eater/necessary/useful/worthless skills in shtf situations, etc

I cannot help it..it is automatic, anymore

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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Thanks for the info GT. This one is just insane!!!!!
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


Yeah, nothing like running all the rest of our business's out of the country and bankrupting the rest...that will really help things along ...NOT!! Obama is insane and i don't mean that in a good way!
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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Thanks for the info GT. This one is just insane!!!!!
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


Yes sir! Play " Taps" for small business!

putin
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Isn't Bernanke talking to the Japanese tomorrow?
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
The administration actually doesn't care about the debt...they have no intention of paying it off...they are going to purposefully crash the system...seize all bank accounts..ie..checking, savings, ira's and pay off the national debt with it.
The Federal Reserve will be no more, the dollar isnt worth anything anymore.

Just watch...when you see the big banks start complaining about how they need more money and another bail out..then that's the sign...congress and the American people will not bail them out again.

Then all hell's going to break lose ...make the Great Depression look like a cake walk.

One good thing that MAY come out of this is if you are paying a mortgage or have a federal student loan...then there is a chance that your mortgage and federal loan will GO AWAY...meaning if the banks are broke they can't take your house ...which means..your mortgage would be considered paid as well as any Federal Loan you had because the FED would not exist in America anymore and we as a nation would be out of debt and owe no country anything...IF THEY DO IT THAT WAY!

IF NOT...we're all screwed until they can come up with a different currency.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


Your post gave me goosebumps(not in a good way)
Reminds me of something someone said on here months ago...

"They will do something that will have people dancing in the streets, day and night for weeks on end..but it will not be in the best interest of the people.." and it was supposed to happen this summer if their plans went well...

"they" being tptb


hiding

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Good thread Abi! hifromafar

Glad to see you post!

I was afraid you had left too. Doesn't seem like too many birdie people still around!luvuthismuch
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Good thread Abi! hifromafar

Glad to see you post!

I was afraid you had left too. Doesn't seem like too many birdie people still around!luvuthismuch
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I know..good to see you too :)
did you see my post above yours? I was roughly quoting something that Cryptic had told us..remember that..??


hf

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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Thanks for the info GT. This one is just insane!!!!!
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


Yes sir! Play " Taps" for small business!

putin
 Quoting: GT500


Yep....this story is on DRUDGE now as well.
3rd column top....in bold red.

[link to www.drudgereport.com]

direct link.....
Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business
[link to www.weeklystandard.com]


wallet :obammytax2:
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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
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This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Thanks for the info GT. This one is just insane!!!!!
 Quoting: 4thhorseman


Yes sir! Play " Taps" for small business!

putin
 Quoting: GT500


Yep....this story is on DRUDGE now as well.
3rd column top....in bold red.

[link to www.drudgereport.com]

direct link.....
Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business
[link to www.weeklystandard.com]


wallet :obammytax2:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I added you and GT's info to the op, hope you do not mind...all credit given to you guys..:)
You accept the love you think you deserve~~~

Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

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I added you and GT's info to the op, hope you do not mind...all credit given to you guys..:)

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Not at all...that's why we post this stuff.

May I suggest changing your title a bit to reflect the tax rates as well?

cheers
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I added you and GT's info to the op, hope you do not mind...all credit given to you guys..:)

 Quoting: Abi ~


Not at all...that's why we post this stuff.

May I suggest changing your title a bit to reflect the tax rates as well?

cheers
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No prob...how should I word it? Give me a new title and I will change it :)

National debt and Obama's insane tax rates??

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Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

Have no regrets~~~
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Good title Choice Abi! hf
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I added you and GT's info to the op, hope you do not mind...all credit given to you guys..:)

 Quoting: Abi ~


Not at all...that's why we post this stuff.

May I suggest changing your title a bit to reflect the tax rates as well?

cheers
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No prob...how should I word it? Give me a new title and I will change it :)
 Quoting: Abi ~


What I would write and what you may write are going to be different no doubt...but here's an idea....


"Government states....National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming."

....your call on how you want to do it.
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I added you and GT's info to the op, hope you do not mind...all credit given to you guys..:)

 Quoting: Abi ~


Not at all...that's why we post this stuff.

May I suggest changing your title a bit to reflect the tax rates as well?

cheers
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No prob...how should I word it? Give me a new title and I will change it :)
 Quoting: Abi ~


What I would write and what you may write are going to be different no doubt...but here's an idea....


"Government states....National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming."

....your call on how you want to do it.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


I like that..especially since I do not like to put shammy's(obama) name on anything..LOL :)
hf
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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Unbelievable...

This week I have not been on here much..I say that because I have had an impending uneasy feeling that I cannot put my finger on the past few days..and glp did not provoke it..LOL

I do not like those "feelings" because they are always right on..just wish I knew specifics...

something is making me uneasy and jittery(no drugs or alcohol). Do not like it ;(

 Quoting: Abi ~


I understand my friend , I think everyone can feel it! Well......at least the ones who are honest with themselves!
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Well, we need to pay attention to those spooky feelings.

It's how the human race has survived this long...... bump
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Good title Choice Abi! hf
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ah, sorry GT, I did not see your opinion before I changed title..is the new one ok?..I just think it said it better than I did..

thanks for your support, it means a lot!!! ;)

You accept the love you think you deserve~~~

Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

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Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Your post gave me goosebumps(not in a good way)
Reminds me of something someone said on here months ago...

"They will do something that will have people dancing in the streets, day and night for weeks on end..but it will not be in the best interest of the people.." and it was supposed to happen this summer if their plans went well...

"they" being tptb


hiding
 Quoting: Abi ~


What was that all about?
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Good title Choice Abi! hf
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ah, sorry GT, I did not see your opinion before I changed title..is the new one ok?..I just think it said it better than I did..

thanks for your support, it means a lot!!! ;)

 Quoting: Abi ~


" perfect title" my friend! hf
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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


Unbelievable...

This week I have not been on here much..I say that because I have had an impending uneasy feeling that I cannot put my finger on the past few days..and glp did not provoke it..LOL

I do not like those "feelings" because they are always right on..just wish I knew specifics...

something is making me uneasy and jittery(no drugs or alcohol). Do not like it ;(

 Quoting: Abi ~


I understand my friend , I think everyone can feel it! Well......at least the ones who are honest with themselves!
 Quoting: GT500




Well, we need to pay attention to those spooky feelings.

It's how the human race has survived this long...... bump
 Quoting: Eggcellent


Hello, Eggcellent..^^ I agree :)
You accept the love you think you deserve~~~

Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

Have no regrets~~~
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What exactly would happen if we did go over that imaginary number congress made up? Does the planet blow up?
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Nope, you just gi to a Chinese prison camp a.k.a. FEMA camp in the center of your town's economic zone. The planet will be fine, just no Americans left in it.
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Your post gave me goosebumps(not in a good way)
Reminds me of something someone said on here months ago...

"They will do something that will have people dancing in the streets, day and night for weeks on end..but it will not be in the best interest of the people.." and it was supposed to happen this summer if their plans went well...

"they" being tptb


hiding
 Quoting: Abi ~


What was that all about?
 Quoting: Paddy


You had to read the "start hiding now" and "birdie" threads...that was one of the things the OP of those threads had mentioned..

and I could see mortgages and student loans being "forgiven" and fed reserve "disappearing" being a reason that people would dance and celebrate..while the pot slowly comes to a boil as they are distracted..


hf

Last Edited by Abi ~ on 07/31/2013 12:09 AM
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Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

Have no regrets~~~





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