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Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming

 
Abi ~  (OP)

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Good title Choice Abi! hf
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ah, sorry GT, I did not see your opinion before I changed title..is the new one ok?..I just think it said it better than I did..

thanks for your support, it means a lot!!! ;)

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" perfect title" my friend! hf
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Thank you..actually, thank Useless Cookie Eater...:)
I am off to bed everyone..Sweet dreams

Thanks everyone who keeps contributing new info to this thread..guess there was more interest than I thought there would be..good call on the pin, GT :)

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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Your post gave me goosebumps(not in a good way)
Reminds me of something someone said on here months ago...

"They will do something that will have people dancing in the streets, day and night for weeks on end..but it will not be in the best interest of the people.." and it was supposed to happen this summer if their plans went well...

"they" being tptb


hiding
 Quoting: Abi ~


What was that all about?
 Quoting: Paddy


You had to read the "start hiding now" and "birdie" threads...that was one of the things the OP of those threads had mentioned..

and I could see mortgages and student loans being "forgiven" and fed reserve "disappearing" being a reason that people would dance and celebrate..while the pot slowly comes to a boil as they are distracted..


hf
 Quoting: Abi ~




Yeah, just look at how everyone seems to have been distracted with the Trayvon trial while the debt keeps escalating and the "phony scandals" are swirling faster than ever.

Wonder what ever happened to those threads - I was following them for a long time.....
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Your post gave me goosebumps(not in a good way)
Reminds me of something someone said on here months ago...

"They will do something that will have people dancing in the streets, day and night for weeks on end..but it will not be in the best interest of the people.." and it was supposed to happen this summer if their plans went well...

"they" being tptb


hiding
 Quoting: Abi ~


What was that all about?
 Quoting: Paddy


You had to read the "start hiding now" and "birdie" threads...that was one of the things the OP of those threads had mentioned..

and I could see mortgages and student loans being "forgiven" and fed reserve "disappearing" being a reason that people would dance and celebrate..while the pot slowly comes to a boil as they are distracted..


hf
 Quoting: Abi ~




Yeah, just look at how everyone seems to have been distracted with the Trayvon trial while the debt keeps escalating and the "phony scandals" are swirling faster than ever.

Wonder what ever happened to those threads - I was following them for a long time.....
 Quoting: Eggcellent


I was too.. they just disappeared..something new took their place as a distraction, apparently..

on a different note, yes I am trying to go to bed BUT I just saw this..


Thread: My dog usually loves to go outside to potty, but she won't go out tonight

interestingly, she is in Illinois, too..must be the weather..just feels like something is brewing..pressure..animals are noticing it, too
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


How about 20% on businesses, corporate or otherwise making over $200,000. 10% on individuals making over $100,000 and nothing for anyone else. There is so much waste in the current tax code, but so much going uncollected as in the 5 largest corporations paying nothing! For years!
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DOOM ON !dynamite
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Your post gave me goosebumps(not in a good way)
Reminds me of something someone said on here months ago...

"They will do something that will have people dancing in the streets, day and night for weeks on end..but it will not be in the best interest of the people.." and it was supposed to happen this summer if their plans went well...

"they" being tptb


hiding
 Quoting: Abi ~


What was that all about?
 Quoting: Paddy


You had to read the "start hiding now" and "birdie" threads...that was one of the things the OP of those threads had mentioned..

and I could see mortgages and student loans being "forgiven" and fed reserve "disappearing" being a reason that people would dance and celebrate..while the pot slowly comes to a boil as they are distracted..


hf
 Quoting: Abi ~


I don't see either one happening. But regarding the fed, I seriously don't personally know a single person who can give a coherent answer when asked, "What is the Federal Reserve?"

The most academic answer would be, "Some kind of government thing. Um. I think."

Take it for what it's worth, but I have never seen any anonymous internet prediction ever come true, I don't suspect I ever will.

It isn't a matter of truth vs. lies, it is a matter of lies vs. lies. You won't find the truth in here.
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07/31/2013 12:24 AM
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Just means theyve stopped reporting and its going exponential

nothing to see here move along
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
 Quoting: GT500


How about 20% on businesses, corporate or otherwise making over $200,000. 10% on individuals making over $100,000 and nothing for anyone else. There is so much waste in the current tax code, but so much going uncollected as in the 5 largest corporations paying nothing! For years!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30605535


How about " no taxes " until U.S. unemployment is back to our usual 1... 2%

Not going to happen, NWO is at the door and look out! Get your affairs in order and be ready the hammer is about to drop! Very, very, uncertain times we are living in.......
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07/31/2013 12:37 AM
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
In Norway, all limited companies (not personal businesses) have 28% tax, no VAT (must be payed and accounted for, but is refunded). To favorize corporation in this way is a discriminating act against smaller companies.
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Obama: Top Tax Rate Should Be 28% for Corporations, 40% for Small Business | The Weekly Standard
[link to m.weeklystandard.com]

This also just posted! We are done!
Quoting: GT500


SMALL BUSINESS IS DAMN NEAR DEAD ALREADY. IF OBAMACARE DOESN'T DESTROY SMALL BUSINESS, A 40% TAX SURE WILL.

IMAGINE A 40% TAX ON YOUR OUT OF THE POCKET BUSINESS.
WORST, WHY WOULD YOU START A BUSINESS?

ONLY SOMEONE THAT HAS NEVER RUN A BUSINESS WOULD CONSIDER ACTIVATING A TAX LIKE THAT!

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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
They want to reduce the tax rates for larger corporations while increasing taxes on small business. Fuck this shit. I can't barely afford to pay my bills as a 1099 contractor with an LLC. My total taxes now are over 50%. If income tax itself is raised to 40% my total tax rate will be well above 60% making the entire thing completely pointless. They are gunning to shut down the few self-employed citizens left down.
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07/31/2013 12:58 AM
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
It is... it's much much worse once you factor in all the unfunded liabilities such as pensions, healthcare and retirement.

In this particular case, the national debt would be closer to 200 trillion dollars.

Yes... two hundred trillion dollars.
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy

do you factor in unrealized revenue in that number? I bet you don't.
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
How about 20% on businesses, corporate or otherwise making over $200,000. 10% on individuals making over $100,000 and nothing for anyone else. There is so much waste in the current tax code, but so much going uncollected as in the 5 largest corporations paying nothing! For years!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30605535


we can't tax businesses, cause then they take away all our jobs, remember?
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They want to reduce the tax rates for larger corporations while increasing taxes on small business. Fuck this shit. I can't barely afford to pay my bills as a 1099 contractor with an LLC. My total taxes now are over 50%. If income tax itself is raised to 40% my total tax rate will be well above 60% making the entire thing completely pointless. They are gunning to shut down the few self-employed citizens left down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1225563


Sounds like they want us all dependent on them..keep us all from being "self sufficient" next thing ya know..BAM!
Total control...

It has all been leading to this point..Shammy has just been rushing it more than others in our lifetime, I think..

they are going all out during his presidency..all or nothing, it appears...

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They are actually taking money from the federal pension funds to balance the budget until congress increases the debt limit.. (Because they will NEVER willingly cut spending)so the actual national debt doesnt go up because their net borrowing via bond sales cannot go above the debt limit by law...

Theyve sone it before and suppoaedly paid it back...
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
There was a thread about this a while back. It seems they've been dipping into pension funds to stay under the limit..

Thread: What Are They Waiting For? Treasury Falsifying U.S. Liabilities To Remain Under The Debt Ceiling, But No Move To Raise It...
 Quoting: my 2 cents


The wheels will come completely off when the Social Security checks stop

brawls like the Huntington beach riot are nothing compared to what's going to happen. Think about who's getting these checks.... really really think about it. And it's not the so called "baby boomers".
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They are practicing modern day witchcraft on our money supply with advanced algorithms to ensure they always get the results they desire. One day their algorithms will not see a variable coming and the house of cards will blow away
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There was a thread about this a while back. It seems they've been dipping into pension funds to stay under the limit..

Thread: What Are They Waiting For? Treasury Falsifying U.S. Liabilities To Remain Under The Debt Ceiling, But No Move To Raise It...
 Quoting: my 2 cents


The wheels will come completely off when the Social Security checks stop

brawls like the Huntington beach riot are nothing compared to what's going to happen. Think about who's getting these checks.... really really think about it. And it's not the so called "baby boomers".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412005


That will definitely be one of two straws that broke the camels back...

the other is welfare..

and I imagine it will happen in the near future..state governments claiming they are bankrupt..fed is trillions in debt...

it cannot continue on this path..

People think shtf has to be EMP or grid down, or some other gargantuan(I like that word..rarely get to use it in a sentence.LOL) disaster..

No, all it takes is something like that and this country will turn on itself..

Another reason to have some supplies on hand..would you want to be out in the streets with the looters who have been cut off from the tit, cold turkey??? NO WAY!
That will be ugly.

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It's going up according to the debt clock

[link to www.usdebtclock.org]
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119 mph on a 50 mph curve. What happens in every case ?

Derailment

They think they can pull off the charade again but its too late. The economic engine is stalling out. Everywhere you look there's trouble brewing.... !
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


And, yet, when you go out, you still see people charging senseless things and eating out and living the high life...

makes me wonder...are they all just living for today?
Are they the ones who will be trying to rob us when shtf?

I am not just talking "richies", either..these people cannot afford to be doing what they are doing..

Instead of preparing, they are splurging...

I look at everyone I know now and categorize them..

useless eater/necessary/useful/worthless skills in shtf situations, etc

I cannot help it..it is automatic, anymore

 Quoting: Abi ~


Great thread abi. 5 stars. Most real doom I've read in a thread all day. Maybe all week.

I definitely agree with your last statement. Its instinctual. I've been doing it without noticing. Almost subconsciously.

I am also from IL.
Goodnight to you. Ill check back in the morning.hf
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Re: Government states...National Debt stayed the same last 70 days and 40% tax rates for small business are coming
119 mph on a 50 mph curve. What happens in every case ?

Derailment

They think they can pull off the charade again but its too late. The economic engine is stalling out. Everywhere you look there's trouble brewing.... !
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


And, yet, when you go out, you still see people charging senseless things and eating out and living the high life...

makes me wonder...are they all just living for today?
Are they the ones who will be trying to rob us when shtf?

I am not just talking "richies", either..these people cannot afford to be doing what they are doing..

Instead of preparing, they are splurging...

I look at everyone I know now and categorize them..

useless eater/necessary/useful/worthless skills in shtf situations, etc

I cannot help it..it is automatic, anymore

 Quoting: Abi ~


Great thread abi. 5 stars. Most real doom I've read in a thread all day. Maybe all week.

I definitely agree with your last statement. Its instinctual. I've been doing it without noticing. Almost subconsciously.

I am also from IL.
Goodnight to you. Ill check back in the morning.hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17955607


TY...Good to hear from a fellow Illinoisan..
Glad I am not the only one who has been sizing people up..
Sweet dreams :)

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[link to www.usdebtclock.org]
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It's going up according to the debt clock

[link to www.usdebtclock.org]
 Quoting: E CaT PanTHer


Hence the confusion as to why the Treasury is reporting a smaller number on their closing debt statements each day. The link to their statements is in the first post, one from May and the other from July and the end of day number is the same.... they are cooking the books.

What they are waiting for, no one really knows.
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It's going up according to the debt clock

[link to www.usdebtclock.org]
 Quoting: E CaT PanTHer


Hence the confusion as to why the Treasury is reporting a smaller number on their closing debt statements each day. The link to their statements is in the first post, one from May and the other from July and the end of day number is the same.... they are cooking the books.

What they are waiting for, no one really knows.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44187685


^^exactly!!!
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Love cannot live where there is no trust~~~

Truth has no temperature~~~

Love like it's never gonna hurt~~~

Have no regrets~~~





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