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FBI Flicker Sting Operation Victimizes Autistic Teen! Information YOU Need To Know!

 
H0NEYBEE  (OP)

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The kid was a probable pedo caught before he could do something to a little child. As far as I see it, ICE did there job.
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More of that guilty until proven innocent mindset prevalent in modern society.
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Our society has changed to "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" instead of the "Innocent Until Proven Guilty."
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It is time to get off the internet. It's being used in too many ways to mess with people. As soon as I sell off all my old stock from my business, I am outta here.

I don't need the aggravation!
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yupp..way done.
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It is time to get off the internet. It's being used in too many ways to mess with people. As soon as I sell off all my old stock from my business, I am outta here.

I don't need the aggravation!
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yupp..way done.
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yep...dcomp
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"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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It is time to get off the internet. It's being used in too many ways to mess with people. As soon as I sell off all my old stock from my business, I am outta here.

I don't need the aggravation!
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yupp..way done.
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yep...dcomp
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Nope! A little bit of research will give you the technical knowledge to avoid the bullshit. No one is going to use fear to prevent me from doing anything.

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I updated the OP with the information that you requested.

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Thank you!

It did go to the Grand Jury and it was a second offense. Felony was 20 pictures or film or video.
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The more exposure this case gets the better. hf
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I think its also a way for them to shut off free speach without them torching the constitution. Fear is a powerful tool and they use it.
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It is time to get off the internet. It's being used in too many ways to mess with people. As soon as I sell off all my old stock from my business, I am outta here.

I don't need the aggravation!
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yupp..way done.
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yep...dcomp
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Nope! A little bit of research will give you the technical knowledge to avoid the bullshit. No one is going to use fear to prevent me from doing anything.

To all the watchers.
skull_fing
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"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Since it went to the Grand Jury and was a second offense and felony was 20 pictures movie or video of child porn I'm not inclined to promote this. Looks like this kid is being made a poster child for this and isn't as squeaky clean as is being said.
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Since it went to the Grand Jury and was a second offense and felony was 20 pictures movie or video of child porn I'm not inclined to promote this. Looks like this kid is being made a poster child for this and isn't as squeaky clean as is being said.
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I just forwarded your comments to the advocates that know this case inside and out. I know there is a whole group of underage kids this has happened to, are you sure this on the correct case? I will let you know as soon as I hear something. This young kid was not the only one, nor will he be the only one.

People do need to be careful what links they click on these days. They need to know that this kind of thing is happening.
Just as the junk that was sent by email in the bottom video and link.
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Click! Click! abomb *Boom* abomb

ICE/FBI just that easily can frame you as a pedophile and you don't even know it!

A little known ICE/FBI program known as Operation Flicker, using child porn laced downloads on various file sharing websites, are destroying innocent lives by framing innocents as pedophiles. One of the children and his family have been devastated by this little alphabet soup agency's program victimizing the innocents more than helping them.

Andrew Rose was 17 at the time. He was on "Limewire" for music. He clicked on a link that directed him to a set up child pornography site ran by the FBI. They arrested him on 2 counts of "Passion of Child Pornography."


"Operation Flicker was started By ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency] U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is the principal investigative arm of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the second largest investigative agency in the federal government. Created in 2003 through a merger of the investigative and interior enforcement elements of the U.S. Customs Service and the Immigration and Naturalization Service, ICE now has more than 20,000 employees in offices in all 50 states and 47 foreign countries."

Explanation Of Why You Should Be Concerned


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A Video Appeal To The Judge -




Case [link to www.courts.mo.gov (secure)]

Appeal To Honorable Judge Lampke
[link to word.office.live.com (secure)]

Andrew's Page - [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

A Letter To Senator Grassley [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

A Video Explanation Of How "Operation Flicker"Works: [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

A reporter has decided to report his findings to Congress, that ICE/FBI may be setting people up with child porn.

[link to www.federaljack.com]

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Someone just attempted to set-up Stewart Rhodes (founder of Oath Keepers) & Dan Johnson (founder of People Against the N.D.A.A) by sending child porn to Dan Johnson's email from a tormail.org anonymous email account, pretending to be Stewart. Clearly, they knew Dan and Stewart work together on anti-NDAA nullification legislation, so they tried to trick Dan into opening the files containing child porn by impersonating Stewart Rhodes. Fortunately, Dan realized it was a tormail email and not actually from Stewart, so he did not open the attached pdfs. PANDA'S internet security expert was able to determine that the files contained child porn without opening them. This attempt to set Dan Johnson up failed.



[link to unitedtruthseekers.com]
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...................whitey Bulger's FBI are heavily infiltrated by AIPAC stooges , jonathan pollard clones and STERN GANG wolfpacks and gene moss vaselines
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Can you smell the desperation?

This is a good sign.

EVERYTHING that they do now, only further discredits them.

The more they do, the more their public support fades.

Go down to the public rifle range, you'll see every station full of men of every character practicing with their AR's.

Everyone knows what is going on.
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Since it went to the Grand Jury and was a second offense and felony was 20 pictures movie or video of child porn I'm not inclined to promote this. Looks like this kid is being made a poster child for this and isn't as squeaky clean as is being said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485
I just forwarded your comments to the advocates that know this case inside and out. I know there is a whole group of underage kids this has happened to, are you sure this on the correct case? I will let you know as soon as I hear something. This young kid was not the only one, nor will he be the only one.

People do need to be careful what links they click on these days. They need to know that this kind of thing is happening.
Just as the junk that was sent by email in the bottom video and link.
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Here is a letter to the judge from another young boy this happened to and he admits that he did wrong by looking. But they shouldn't be planting this on links.

1620 Washington Drive 1/13/2013
Fairbanks, AK 99709

The Honorable Judge Lamke
Circuit Court Division 2
Franklin County Judicial Center
401 E. Main Street
Union, MO 63084

Your Honor:

My name is David Berge. I am 19 years old but was 17 when I was caught up in Operation Flicker in 2010. I was on lime wire and frost wire on the internet when I found 100's of pictures of child pornography that was put on there by the FBI. It wasn't too smart for me to look at this stuff but I did and got in a lot of trouble. The judge that I had to see gave me 2 years of probation and said that it would go away as long as I graduated. I'm well on my to that. The judge did not make me have a sex offender tag and pretty much called the fbi guy at my hearing a sleaze ball. She told them not to do that in Alaska again without informing the state. She was pretty mad that they put all this stuff on sites that kids and teenagers go to.

Judge, Andrew Rose had a whole lot less than me. Only two pictures and he deleted them. It's not right for your state to do what it's doing to him. I made a mistake and learned from it. The judge here could have made me a sex offender and that would have ruined the rest of my life. This kid doesn't deserve what you are doing to him. Please Judge Lamke give Andrew a chance.

Sincerely

David B.


This does not sound like the same kid you are talking about. Not sure where you got your information.

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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Since it went to the Grand Jury and was a second offense and felony was 20 pictures movie or video of child porn I'm not inclined to promote this. Looks like this kid is being made a poster child for this and isn't as squeaky clean as is being said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485
I just forwarded your comments to the advocates that know this case inside and out. I know there is a whole group of underage kids this has happened to, are you sure this on the correct case? I will let you know as soon as I hear something. This young kid was not the only one, nor will he be the only one.

People do need to be careful what links they click on these days. They need to know that this kind of thing is happening.
Just as the junk that was sent by email in the bottom video and link.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


11AB-CR02379 State v Andrew L. Rose

Case.net
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Since it went to the Grand Jury and was a second offense and felony was 20 pictures movie or video of child porn I'm not inclined to promote this. Looks like this kid is being made a poster child for this and isn't as squeaky clean as is being said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485
I just forwarded your comments to the advocates that know this case inside and out. I know there is a whole group of underage kids this has happened to, are you sure this on the correct case? I will let you know as soon as I hear something. This young kid was not the only one, nor will he be the only one.

People do need to be careful what links they click on these days. They need to know that this kind of thing is happening.
Just as the junk that was sent by email in the bottom video and link.
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11AB-CR02379 State v Andrew L. Rose

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It says: "2nd Ofns Or Possess >20 Pics/One Film/Videotape/Etc"
That is the statute that he is charged under { Felony B RSMo: 573.037 It has the "or" no an "and"...it's not a second offense. And if he saw the two pics then deleted it, which is what it states...the whole file itself could have had 20 or 100 pics on it or a video linked to it. He would be charged for whatever was on that whole file.

Again, it's about getting the word out there for people to be careful for what links they click on. It is better to be informed than to be caught unaware. People are too trusting about just clicking on any ole' link. Look at the guy that the email was sent to, just to set him up!
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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The real pedos out there will love the FBI for doing this. Now they can download child porn, blame the feds, and have a good chance of beating the rap.
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It is time to get off the internet. It's being used in too many ways to mess with people. As soon as I sell off all my old stock from my business, I am outta here.

I don't need the aggravation!
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Just the reaction they're hoping for
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The real pedos out there will love the FBI for doing this. Now they can download child porn, blame the feds, and have a good chance of beating the rap.
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They are setting up innocent people yet the elitists get away with the real deed.


"Apparently, offering midnight tours of the White House for young male prostitutes is standard operating procedure in today’s USA."

"Why do these criminals enjoy immunity from prosecution?"

"Two interrelated factors are at work."


"First, America’s wealthiest families share a tradition of what sociologists and criminologists call “elite deviance”: They consider themselves above the law. Groups like Skull and Bones, whose initiates masturbate naked in a coffin in front of the older members, help intensify this culture of deviance by inculcating an ethic of superiority and impunity, and operating as a “feeder” for US intelligence services. Professor Peter Dale Scott explains that these elite organized criminals form an “overworld” which is as far above the law as the “underworld” is beneath it.

Secondly, rogue elements of various police and intelligence services, as well as top-tier organized crime outfits, use blackmail as a means of control. They employ child prostitution rings to obtain blackmail material on politicians, judges, military and intelligence officers, and other key power-brokers."


[link to www.presstv.ir]
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"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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I recognized the potential for setting people up via the Internet almost from the beginning. I'm sure a lot of people did. Knowing there are people out there who have the ability to manipulate and alter video and other data should be a warning. If someone wants to bring you down, it isn't that hard. It's not the 'Web' for nothing.
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It is time to get off the internet. It's being used in too many ways to mess with people. As soon as I sell off all my old stock from my business, I am outta here.

I don't need the aggravation!
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Just the reaction they're hoping for
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Yep!
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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Since it went to the Grand Jury and was a second offense and felony was 20 pictures movie or video of child porn I'm not inclined to promote this. Looks like this kid is being made a poster child for this and isn't as squeaky clean as is being said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485
I just forwarded your comments to the advocates that know this case inside and out. I know there is a whole group of underage kids this has happened to, are you sure this on the correct case? I will let you know as soon as I hear something. This young kid was not the only one, nor will he be the only one.

People do need to be careful what links they click on these days. They need to know that this kind of thing is happening.
Just as the junk that was sent by email in the bottom video and link.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


11AB-CR02379 State v Andrew L. Rose

Case.net
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485


It says: "2nd Ofns Or Possess >20 Pics/One Film/Videotape/Etc"
That is the statute that he is charged under { Felony B RSMo: 573.037 It has the "or" no an "and"...it's not a second offense. And if he saw the two pics then deleted it, which is what it states...the whole file itself could have had 20 or 100 pics on it or a video linked to it. He would be charged for whatever was on that whole file.



Again, it's about getting the word out there for people to be careful for what links they click on. It is better to be informed than to be caught unaware. People are too trusting about just clicking on any ole' link. Look at the guy that the email was sent to, just to set him up!
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Just trying to be sure of what is what.

Possession of child pornography.
573.037. 1. A person commits the crime of possession of child pornography if such person knowingly or recklessly possesses any child pornography of a minor under the age of eighteen or obscene material portraying what appears to be a minor under the age of eighteen.

2. Possession of child pornography is a class C felony unless the person possesses more than twenty still images of child pornography, possesses one motion picture, film, videotape, videotape production, or other moving image of child pornography, or has pleaded guilty to or has been found guilty of an offense under this section, in which case it is a class B felony.

(L. 1987 H.B. 113, et al., A.L. 2000 S.B. 757 & 602, A.L. 2004 H.B. 1055, A.L. 2008 S.B. 714, et al., A.L. 2009 H.B. 62)
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I just forwarded your comments to the advocates that know this case inside and out. I know there is a whole group of underage kids this has happened to, are you sure this on the correct case? I will let you know as soon as I hear something. This young kid was not the only one, nor will he be the only one.

People do need to be careful what links they click on these days. They need to know that this kind of thing is happening.
Just as the junk that was sent by email in the bottom video and link.
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


11AB-CR02379 State v Andrew L. Rose

Case.net
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2269485


It says: "2nd Ofns Or Possess >20 Pics/One Film/Videotape/Etc"
That is the statute that he is charged under { Felony B RSMo: 573.037 It has the "or" no an "and"...it's not a second offense. And if he saw the two pics then deleted it, which is what it states...the whole file itself could have had 20 or 100 pics on it or a video linked to it. He would be charged for whatever was on that whole file.



Again, it's about getting the word out there for people to be careful for what links they click on. It is better to be informed than to be caught unaware. People are too trusting about just clicking on any ole' link. Look at the guy that the email was sent to, just to set him up!
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


Just trying to be sure of what is what.

Possession of child pornography.
573.037. 1. A person commits the crime of possession of child pornography if such person knowingly or recklessly possesses any child pornography of a minor under the age of eighteen or obscene material portraying what appears to be a minor under the age of eighteen.

2. Possession of child pornography is a class C felony unless the person possesses more than twenty still images of child pornography, possesses one motion picture, film, videotape, videotape production, or other moving image of child pornography, or has pleaded guilty to or has been found guilty of an offense under this section, in which case it is a class B felony.

(L. 1987 H.B. 113, et al., A.L. 2000 S.B. 757 & 602, A.L. 2004 H.B. 1055, A.L. 2008 S.B. 714, et al., A.L. 2009 H.B. 62)
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Right, legally stating what I said in laymen terms. It was not a second offense...there were two photos..that he deleted wanting to get rid of the garbage...but not knowing what was happening. Autism runs all throughout both sides of his family. He received two counts for the same link. This was established by the D.A. Mr.Parks at the last hearing.

Thanks for pulling up the statutes for me! :)

Last Edited by H0NEYBEE on 08/01/2013 07:41 PM
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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The more exposure this case gets the better. hf
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America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.
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11AB-CR02379 State v Andrew L. Rose

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It says: "2nd Ofns Or Possess >20 Pics/One Film/Videotape/Etc"
That is the statute that he is charged under { Felony B RSMo: 573.037 It has the "or" no an "and"...it's not a second offense. And if he saw the two pics then deleted it, which is what it states...the whole file itself could have had 20 or 100 pics on it or a video linked to it. He would be charged for whatever was on that whole file.



Again, it's about getting the word out there for people to be careful for what links they click on. It is better to be informed than to be caught unaware. People are too trusting about just clicking on any ole' link. Look at the guy that the email was sent to, just to set him up!
 Quoting: H0NEYBEE


Just trying to be sure of what is what.

Possession of child pornography.
573.037. 1. A person commits the crime of possession of child pornography if such person knowingly or recklessly possesses any child pornography of a minor under the age of eighteen or obscene material portraying what appears to be a minor under the age of eighteen.

2. Possession of child pornography is a class C felony unless the person possesses more than twenty still images of child pornography, possesses one motion picture, film, videotape, videotape production, or other moving image of child pornography, or has pleaded guilty to or has been found guilty of an offense under this section, in which case it is a class B felony.

(L. 1987 H.B. 113, et al., A.L. 2000 S.B. 757 & 602, A.L. 2004 H.B. 1055, A.L. 2008 S.B. 714, et al., A.L. 2009 H.B. 62)
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Right, legally stating what I said in laymen terms. It was not a second offense...there were two photos..that he deleted wanting to get rid of the garbage...but not knowing what was happening. Autism runs all throughout both sides of his family. He received two counts for the same link. This was established by the D.A. Mr.Parks at the last hearing.

Thanks for pulling up the statutes for me! :)
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My pleasure.

Autism gets thrown around a lot these days. It's a seventeen year old, autistic so sympathy is almost automatic. If this person has been wrongly accused and charged then I hope he gets off. But a kid with autism is not necessarily not a pervert or not interested in child porn. Will be interesting following the case.
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It says: "2nd Ofns Or Possess >20 Pics/One Film/Videotape/Etc"
That is the statute that he is charged under { Felony B RSMo: 573.037 It has the "or" no an "and"...it's not a second offense. And if he saw the two pics then deleted it, which is what it states...the whole file itself could have had 20 or 100 pics on it or a video linked to it. He would be charged for whatever was on that whole file.



Again, it's about getting the word out there for people to be careful for what links they click on. It is better to be informed than to be caught unaware. People are too trusting about just clicking on any ole' link. Look at the guy that the email was sent to, just to set him up!
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Just trying to be sure of what is what.

Possession of child pornography.
573.037. 1. A person commits the crime of possession of child pornography if such person knowingly or recklessly possesses any child pornography of a minor under the age of eighteen or obscene material portraying what appears to be a minor under the age of eighteen.

2. Possession of child pornography is a class C felony unless the person possesses more than twenty still images of child pornography, possesses one motion picture, film, videotape, videotape production, or other moving image of child pornography, or has pleaded guilty to or has been found guilty of an offense under this section, in which case it is a class B felony.

(L. 1987 H.B. 113, et al., A.L. 2000 S.B. 757 & 602, A.L. 2004 H.B. 1055, A.L. 2008 S.B. 714, et al., A.L. 2009 H.B. 62)
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Right, legally stating what I said in laymen terms. It was not a second offense...there were two photos..that he deleted wanting to get rid of the garbage...but not knowing what was happening. Autism runs all throughout both sides of his family. He received two counts for the same link. This was established by the D.A. Mr.Parks at the last hearing.

Thanks for pulling up the statutes for me! :)
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My pleasure.

Autism gets thrown around a lot these days. It's a seventeen year old, autistic so sympathy is almost automatic. If this person has been wrongly accused and charged then I hope he gets off. But a kid with autism is not necessarily not a pervert or not interested in child porn. Will be interesting following the case.
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Very true. What concerns me is that they are doing this on a regular basis. It's not just this one case. I just happen to know the ones advocating on this case. Surfing around on the internet can be dangerous if people are not careful.

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Just trying to be sure of what is what.

Possession of child pornography.
573.037. 1. A person commits the crime of possession of child pornography if such person knowingly or recklessly possesses any child pornography of a minor under the age of eighteen or obscene material portraying what appears to be a minor under the age of eighteen.

2. Possession of child pornography is a class C felony unless the person possesses more than twenty still images of child pornography, possesses one motion picture, film, videotape, videotape production, or other moving image of child pornography, or has pleaded guilty to or has been found guilty of an offense under this section, in which case it is a class B felony.

(L. 1987 H.B. 113, et al., A.L. 2000 S.B. 757 & 602, A.L. 2004 H.B. 1055, A.L. 2008 S.B. 714, et al., A.L. 2009 H.B. 62)
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Right, legally stating what I said in laymen terms. It was not a second offense...there were two photos..that he deleted wanting to get rid of the garbage...but not knowing what was happening. Autism runs all throughout both sides of his family. He received two counts for the same link. This was established by the D.A. Mr.Parks at the last hearing.

Thanks for pulling up the statutes for me! :)
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My pleasure.

Autism gets thrown around a lot these days. It's a seventeen year old, autistic so sympathy is almost automatic. If this person has been wrongly accused and charged then I hope he gets off. But a kid with autism is not necessarily not a pervert or not interested in child porn. Will be interesting following the case.
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Very true. What concerns me is that they are doing this on a regular basis. It's not just this one case. I just happen to know the ones advocating on this case. Surfing around on the internet can be dangerous if people are not careful.

rose
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I received an explanation.

"Translated it means 2 counts as determinant during the last court hearing. This was clearly established during the "Findings." The next court date is Aug.6th, 2013."

"Within the p2p file sight was a slide show, the forensics clearly shows he hit and deleted said items. Only one offense."

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people love to victimize autistic people and people with mental disabilities.

it will happen everywhere.


the autistic "man" is 17. he is still a child and still underage

so how is it criminal for him to have kiddie porn. if he is a kid

and if he is autistic then he is gullible and not understanding what regular adults understand.
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They are setting up innocent people yet the elitists get away with the real deed.


"Apparently, offering midnight tours of the White House for young male prostitutes is standard operating procedure in today’s USA."

"Why do these criminals enjoy immunity from prosecution?"

"Two interrelated factors are at work."


"First, America’s wealthiest families share a tradition of what sociologists and criminologists call “elite deviance”: They consider themselves above the law. Groups like Skull and Bones, whose initiates masturbate naked in a coffin in front of the older members, help intensify this culture of deviance by inculcating an ethic of superiority and impunity, and operating as a “feeder” for US intelligence services. Professor Peter Dale Scott explains that these elite organized criminals form an “overworld” which is as far above the law as the “underworld” is beneath it.

Secondly, rogue elements of various police and intelligence services, as well as top-tier organized crime outfits, use blackmail as a means of control. They employ child prostitution rings to obtain blackmail material on politicians, judges, military and intelligence officers, and other key power-brokers."


[link to www.presstv.ir]
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I think accusations of pedophilia are the perfect way to get rid of someone and put them in prison, no physical evidence is necessary to incite a jury.

Once accused, only the accused's family and friends realizes he's innocent, everyone else wants to kill him on sight. Perfect set up. and i think it's going to come out that a majority of people convicted in the past 13 years were thus set by crooked prosecutors working together with corrupt judges and federal government ran operations coordinated trough te jew owned fusion centers.
It's going to be jews at the bottom of it, just like they did in the Bolshevik Russian revolution. Jews know how to destroy their enemies with lies. Most real pedophiles are protected from prosecution.
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people love to victimize autistic people and people with mental disabilities.

it will happen everywhere.


the autistic "man" is 17. he is still a child and still underage

so how is it criminal for him to have kiddie porn. if he is a kid

and if he is autistic then he is gullible and not understanding what regular adults understand.
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They are setting up innocent people yet the elitists get away with the real deed.


"Apparently, offering midnight tours of the White House for young male prostitutes is standard operating procedure in today’s USA."

"Why do these criminals enjoy immunity from prosecution?"

"Two interrelated factors are at work."


"First, America’s wealthiest families share a tradition of what sociologists and criminologists call “elite deviance”: They consider themselves above the law. Groups like Skull and Bones, whose initiates masturbate naked in a coffin in front of the older members, help intensify this culture of deviance by inculcating an ethic of superiority and impunity, and operating as a “feeder” for US intelligence services. Professor Peter Dale Scott explains that these elite organized criminals form an “overworld” which is as far above the law as the “underworld” is beneath it.

Secondly, rogue elements of various police and intelligence services, as well as top-tier organized crime outfits, use blackmail as a means of control. They employ child prostitution rings to obtain blackmail material on politicians, judges, military and intelligence officers, and other key power-brokers."


[link to www.presstv.ir]
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I think accusations of pedophilia are the perfect way to get rid of someone and put them in prison, no physical evidence is necessary to incite a jury.

Once accused, only the accused's family and friends realizes he's innocent, everyone else wants to kill him on sight. Perfect set up. and i think it's going to come out that a majority of people convicted in the past 13 years were thus set by crooked prosecutors working together with corrupt judges and federal government ran operations coordinated trough te jew owned fusion centers.
It's going to be jews at the bottom of it, just like they did in the Bolshevik Russian revolution. Jews know how to destroy their enemies with lies. Most real pedophiles are protected from prosecution.
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Yes, they are already finding many cases where some accused have been innocent. The Innocent Project has helped quite a few.
"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa
America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world.
We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world."
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Martin Luther King,Jr.





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