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Hi there, I thought I would share this. I found many parts of it fascinating. I did not know Satanism (La Vey) had rules and sins, or rather, the equivalent. It's almost logical in many ways, just devoid an aspect of selflessness, like the narrator states. Satanism isn't, however, about death metal and punk rock. On the surface, without attaching a value judgement, it seems almost... normal.

[link to www.youtube.com]

-N-
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Yep, lots of misconceptions about what satanism actually is, especially here on this board. That's why morons here will say "___ is a satanist!" - misinformed people deliberately trying to shock and misinform others.
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Hi there, I thought I would share this. I found many parts of it fascinating. I did not know Satanism (La Vey) had rules and sins, or rather, the equivalent. It's almost logical in many ways, just devoid an aspect of selflessness, like the narrator states. Satanism isn't, however, about death metal and punk rock. On the surface, without attaching a value judgement, it seems almost... normal.

[link to www.youtube.com]

-N-
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do not go down that path.

i've been there, do not wander there for it will bring you nothing
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Hi there, I thought I would share this. I found many parts of it fascinating. I did not know Satanism (La Vey) had rules and sins, or rather, the equivalent. It's almost logical in many ways, just devoid an aspect of selflessness, like the narrator states. Satanism isn't, however, about death metal and punk rock. On the surface, without attaching a value judgement, it seems almost... normal.

[link to www.youtube.com]

-N-
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do not go down that path.

i've been there, do not wander there for it will bring you nothing
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Thank you for the warning, I guess I did not state my intentions with this knowledge. I feel like the knowledge is out there, inert to those who choose to not indulge, but still lying open and shiny, for those less discerning to be deceived. In my mind and heart, I continue to accept Jesus as my personal savior, but I feel like my duty is to try to save others, regardless. That is the purpose of my explorations. I personally find no redeeming value in revenge, or being nice only to those who 'deserve' it, as I believe in grace and unconditional love, which are stronger.

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Hi there, I thought I would share this. I found many parts of it fascinating. I did not know Satanism (La Vey) had rules and sins, or rather, the equivalent. It's almost logical in many ways, just devoid an aspect of selflessness, like the narrator states. Satanism isn't, however, about death metal and punk rock. On the surface, without attaching a value judgement, it seems almost... normal.

[link to www.youtube.com]

-N-
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do not go down that path.

i've been there, do not wander there for it will bring you nothing
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Thank you for the warning, I guess I did not state my intentions with this knowledge. I feel like the knowledge is out there, inert to those who choose to not indulge, but still lying open and shiny, for those less discerning to be deceived. In my mind and heart, I continue to accept Jesus as my personal savior, but I feel like my duty is to try to save others, regardless. That is the purpose of my explorations. I personally find no redeeming value in revenge, or being nice only to those who 'deserve' it, as I believe in grace and unconditional love, which are stronger.

-N-
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There is a significant difference between a "Satanist" and a "luciferian." A Satanist doesn't believe in external god, while a luciferian or Gnostic, believes that the ruling god of the Biblical text is the countefeit.
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Hi there, I thought I would share this. I found many parts of it fascinating. I did not know Satanism (La Vey) had rules and sins, or rather, the equivalent. It's almost logical in many ways, just devoid an aspect of selflessness, like the narrator states. Satanism isn't, however, about death metal and punk rock. On the surface, without attaching a value judgement, it seems almost... normal.

[link to www.youtube.com]

-N-
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do not go down that path.

i've been there, do not wander there for it will bring you nothing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43901661



Thank you for the warning, I guess I did not state my intentions with this knowledge. I feel like the knowledge is out there, inert to those who choose to not indulge, but still lying open and shiny, for those less discerning to be deceived. In my mind and heart, I continue to accept Jesus as my personal savior, but I feel like my duty is to try to save others, regardless. That is the purpose of my explorations. I personally find no redeeming value in revenge, or being nice only to those who 'deserve' it, as I believe in grace and unconditional love, which are stronger.

-N-
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There is a significant difference between a "Satanist" and a "luciferian." A Satanist doesn't believe in external god, while a luciferian or Gnostic, believes that the ruling god of the Biblical text is the countefeit.
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Yes, that is what I am finding out. Luciferianism, also assosicated with Thoth (khemet) and Hermes (hermeticism), is the faith system of Freemasonry. That's what Lady Gaga and Ke$ha are all about. It's a pursuit of energy, very Crowley. Checkerboard patterns, winged sun discs, all-seeing eyes. Additionally, Gnostics contend with something called the Demiurge, which is sort of god's divine fart, from what I understand. it's the least perfect part of perfection, where the energy level is closest to that of this plane.

Satanism is a self-serving, hedonistic, nihilistic religion that mocks Christianity and twists it to justify a secular, earth-bound existence. Satanists tend to be secretive, observant and outwardly pleasant individuals. They appreciate beauty, but they believe human life is just a tool to be used to advance their own goals, and they don't believe in souls.

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Gnostics believe that the Serpent in Genesis was the 1st coming of the "Christos" and Jesus' was the second coming.
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Interesting, thanks for that video.

I continue to delve into the infinite complexity of energy. I have lately fixated on the so-called 'freemason pop stars', which started as an innocent-enough like of Lady Gaga. At first, I was sucked in to some of the 'aesthetic' value of Britney and Gaga before they jumped the shark. Fast forward, and include now artists like Rihanna, Beyonce, etc.. I now devote most of my time to studying these artists and their imagery. It is too consistent to deny. Yet, there is the lingering question of ... where does it all lead?

This is what has me stuck. Why does Rihanna have a 'navy'? Why does Gaga have 'little monsters'? Why do Ke$ha followers call themselves 'cannibals' and 'animals'?

Take a look at this video, and try to suspend your own personal disbelief and/or urge to dismiss these artists as just whackos. And if you want to tune out the Christian, fine then... just look at what is there. The fact is they are still growing in popularity and, as a result, influence. They dictate the new normal.

[link to www.youtube.com]

This brings us to the present day, and as a result, the future. This still does not answer the question of why.

Then it struck me. It's because as plans for NWO advance, there are going to be lots and lots of orphans. These artists are setting themselves as objects of worship, cult queens, clan matriarchs. It is truly creepy.

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Here is another one, this one on Luciferianism in Hollywood, which, also, I might add, is tied in with Sid Korshak and the Combine/Syndicate, and even the much revered Ronald Reagan. I think it might break a few hearts if they knew Reagan picked up the 'commie crusader' tactic as a tool to help establish the liberal government in California, ironically.

[link to www.youtube.com]

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There is a significant difference between a "Satanist" and a "luciferian." A Satanist doesn't believe in external god, while a luciferian or Gnostic, believes that the ruling god of the Biblical text is the countefeit.
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Not entirely. I personally believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism, but do not believe in the diety/figure of Lucifer himself. Satanists can be the same way, though some *do* worship Satan as a figure, and, some "worship" their own being as a "god".
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There is a significant difference between a "Satanist" and a "luciferian." A Satanist doesn't believe in external god, while a luciferian or Gnostic, believes that the ruling god of the Biblical text is the countefeit.
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Not entirely. I personally believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism, but do not believe in the diety/figure of Lucifer himself. Satanists can be the same way, though some *do* worship Satan as a figure, and, some "worship" their own being as a "god".
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If you truly "believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism" you would rebel against it, because the core concept acknowledges God and the bible.
It's commercialized now. Rebel
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There is a significant difference between a "Satanist" and a "luciferian." A Satanist doesn't believe in external god, while a luciferian or Gnostic, believes that the ruling god of the Biblical text is the countefeit.
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Not entirely. I personally believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism, but do not believe in the diety/figure of Lucifer himself. Satanists can be the same way, though some *do* worship Satan as a figure, and, some "worship" their own being as a "god".
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If you truly "believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism" you would rebel against it, because the core concept acknowledges God and the bible.
It's commercialized now. Rebel
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I'll post some quotes (of what I believe in. Mind you I am ever-searching in the religious/spiritual aspect, of just what *is* it I believe in)...


"For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. They prize the wonders of nature and seek to connect with the natural world and the universe that humans inhabit, in order to move humankind forward through both physical and social evolution. Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one’s ultimate potential as opposed to bowing to the rules of a supernatural entity. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. Instead, they believe that humans should accept who and what they are, the good and the flaws alike, and should seek first and foremost to better themselves and to expand knowledge and understanding, both on a personal level and on a worldwide scale. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid. The ongoing search for truth is paramount. In whatever incarnation Lucifer is viewed, whether theistic or atheistic, whether thought of as Prometheus defying the gods to bring fire to mankind, or Satan giving Eve the apple, allowing humans to think for themselves and to move beyond their childlike beginnings, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration: humanity’s savior and a champion for continuing personal growth."


What I highlighted is what I personally believe in adamantly. And I do agree, that so-called Luciferianism is "commercial". But like many beliefs of a particular belief system/religion, people warp and twist things to their own liking and may very well be misinterpreting things grossly...
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There is a significant difference between a "Satanist" and a "luciferian." A Satanist doesn't believe in external god, while a luciferian or Gnostic, believes that the ruling god of the Biblical text is the countefeit.
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Not entirely. I personally believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism, but do not believe in the diety/figure of Lucifer himself. Satanists can be the same way, though some *do* worship Satan as a figure, and, some "worship" their own being as a "god".
 Quoting: Too Dark Park


If you truly "believe in the philosophical aspect of Luciferianism" you would rebel against it, because the core concept acknowledges God and the bible.
It's commercialized now. Rebel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44821047



I'll post some quotes (of what I believe in. Mind you I am ever-searching in the religious/spiritual aspect, of just what *is* it I believe in)...


"For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. They prize the wonders of nature and seek to connect with the natural world and the universe that humans inhabit, in order to move humankind forward through both physical and social evolution. Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one’s ultimate potential as opposed to bowing to the rules of a supernatural entity. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. Instead, they believe that humans should accept who and what they are, the good and the flaws alike, and should seek first and foremost to better themselves and to expand knowledge and understanding, both on a personal level and on a worldwide scale. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid. The ongoing search for truth is paramount. In whatever incarnation Lucifer is viewed, whether theistic or atheistic, whether thought of as Prometheus defying the gods to bring fire to mankind, or Satan giving Eve the apple, allowing humans to think for themselves and to move beyond their childlike beginnings, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration: humanity’s savior and a champion for continuing personal growth."


What I highlighted is what I personally believe in adamantly. And I do agree, that so-called Luciferianism is "commercial". But like many beliefs of a particular belief system/religion, people warp and twist things to their own liking and may very well be misinterpreting things grossly...
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Thanks for writing this so succinctly! Sending some karma your way.

Personally, everytime I am going to start delving, whether it be listening for hidden messages in music or watching a Hollywood movie, I say a quick prayer, just to remember the purpose of what I am doing. I very much try to avoid becoming 'lost' in a fantasy. To me, that's 'the' pitfall. Whether you view it in a theistic or atheistic way, as you pointed out, living on a lower energy level and living in so-called 'hell'... well, they kind of sound the same, don't they?

I always ask the question "Who does this glorify?" There are only two outcomes for me (again, this is MY belief...). It either glorifies God, or it glorifies the self. It becomes a much easier choice at that point, for me.

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-N-

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