This is a message to all the suicidal...

too add to that...suicide is definitely not cowardly

It's not about me. It's about US, i.e. family, community, etc. So no, it is not selfish to expect your loved ones to hang in there.

Ending your life because you think you can't deal is selfish. Everyone experiences pain and suffering, some more than others, but that is not licence to self-terminate.

BS...us...we...not the person in pain.

You don't know my family and I am not particularly concerned with other "Christians" and their views on suicide.

Last Edited by Iconoclastics on 08/12/2013 04:04 AM

I'm 23 and was recently paralyzed in a motor vehicle accident. I do not qualify for disability because they say I don't have enough work history. I'm only drawing SSI which is $710 a month. Its difficult to not be considering suicide right now. My life is over anyways. I don't have any kids and I'm grateful because there is no way I'd be able to support them. Suicide seems like the only option for me.

ac ...884 nothing is easy for me to say. "People" are as varied as the stars in the sky. An individual is not a thing, we grow and change and with the right conditions people from many different backgrounds can come to an enlightened sense of concern for others.

I do not condemn. I try to find what is good in others. I have felt despair so deep, it is a miracle I am still here. But I recognize if one atom had shifted differently I may not have found the thread that led me out from the abyss. This tragedy is only compounded by judgement where mercy is appropriate and the soundings of the spiritually stunted who discredit the sources of their pat condemnations.

Bless you.

Trust me I am as sensitive as they come but you cannot fight fire with fire. It doesn't get more insensitive than suicide.

Yes, it must be hard. But essentially you are justifying suicide and short of a few rare exceptions, it is not justifiable. Life is ebb and flow, peaks and valleys, highs and lows. Things are never really as bad as they seem and patience will reveal that.

Who isn't or hasn't been in pain?!??!?

You think you're the only one?!?!

You're not!!!

Get over yourself!

Do you not have any family or friends?

Op thanks and you too. ac ...437. I am sorry you have been greatly injured. I hope you can find the strength and money to overcome to the extent that is possible. They are making great strides in medical science and perhaps you will be restored to greater functioning. I hope you can find a sense of worthwhile purpose to staying with us even if you are limited physically. best wishes.

Wise words. However, if I am coming off as judgmental it is most certainly because I am hurting very badly.

Last Edited by Iconoclastics on 08/12/2013 04:39 AM

Oh I know Op. I was not referring to you. I know how you must feel. Or close to it. I am certainly not judging your expressions of grief. Anger is a normal part of this experience. I have known several people who have tried or succeeded in offing themselves.

NEVER violate someones FREE WILL
nice I like this.

Your life is not over friend. You are not here having this lifetime of experience for the purpose of throwing in the towel and giving up. You must push yourself and work to transcend the inclination to define the viability of your life by society's superficial and illusory 'standards'.

I can definitely understand why you would feel the way that you presently do. But your current perspective is fortunately not a permanent one. You are going through a necessary phase or transition surrounding your experience. You will work past your current state of mind.

Constantly challenge your adopted perspective or perception of your circumstances. Keep asking questions until you arrive at answers that help you make sense of it. There have been many individuals who have faced even greater hurdles and challenges in their lives then you are presently facing - and they have found a way to rise above those circumstances and transmute a seemingly 'negative' set of circumstances into a positive journey of transcendence. I say this not as a form of consolation but as a form of inspiration that you are not facing an insurmountable task by any means.

You need to be creative and find a perspective that enables you to see how these circumstances in your life enable you to pursue a path of personal/spiritual growth that you otherwise may not have encountered or been afforded had you not been facing this test/challenge in your life that you have before you. I am certain that at a future point in your life you will be look upon these circumstances and have a completely different perspective of this experience than the one that you temporarily hold now.

For the present time being I would recommend that you seek inspiration from others who have faced a similar set of circumstances that you are facing. Use their examples to build strength and conviction in your own life. I would have to imagine there is no shortage of books/biographies by authors who have dealth with the challenges of paralysis and physical limitation. Search for this material and the right books will find YOU. If you are operating with budgetary constraints I will purchase the books and send them too you. You still have hands that can type and access to the internet. There are organizations, websites online, forums & groups that can offer you guidance, support, and advice from individuals who have walked in your shoes and faced similar challenges in their lives. Do not give up. There is indeed something specific for you to do here and accomplish in this lifetime - you just have to uncover it.

First off I want to say I am sorry about your loss. I think some people out there may suffer to such a degree and really have no friends and family to talk to that it does seem like the only way to stop the suffering.
Not wanting to eat, being unable to sleep and find any enjoyment in life all while having no one to talk to compounds those feelings.
I think to choose whether to live or die may be our only real choice in life. Obviously she had people around her that cared for her, not all of us are that lucky.