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Not Qualified For Obamacare's Subsidies? Just Lie -- Govt. To Use 'Honor System' Without Verifying Your Eligibility

 
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Found this article while researching Obamacare. Worth sharing.



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If you thought the delay in the employer mandate was bad news for Obamacare, just wait. On Friday, Sarah Kliff and Sandhya Somashekhar of the Washington Post discovered that the Obama administration had buried in the Federal Register the announcement that the government won’t be able to verify whether or not applicants for Obamacare’s insurance exchange subsidies are actually qualified for the aid, in the 16 states that are setting up their own exchanges. Instead, until at least 2015, these states will be able to “accept the applicant’s attestation [regarding eligibility] without further verification.”
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More from the same article,

"The goal here is plain as day. The Obama administration is laser-focused on making sure that enough Americans enroll onto Obamacare-subsidized health insurance platforms, because if they do, it will be politically impossible for Republicans to repeal Obamacare in the future."


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Found this article while researching Obamacare. Worth sharing.



[link to www.forbes.com]


If you thought the delay in the employer mandate was bad news for Obamacare, just wait. On Friday, Sarah Kliff and Sandhya Somashekhar of the Washington Post discovered that the Obama administration had buried in the Federal Register the announcement that the government won’t be able to verify whether or not applicants for Obamacare’s insurance exchange subsidies are actually qualified for the aid, in the 16 states that are setting up their own exchanges. Instead, until at least 2015, these states will be able to “accept the applicant’s attestation [regarding eligibility] without further verification.”
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA



And you wonder why you guys need so many rules and regulations to have a semi-functioning society. You all push the system to it's limits until it fails, and then rules are required in order to prop the system up.

That is the reason we can't have campfires in the summer, cause too many idiots don't know how to contain them.

We need street racing rules, and speed limits, seat belt checks, and all this other shit cause you morons can't keep your shit straight.

/rant
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^This^

So, the only people who are going to sign up for Obamacare are the ones who are going to get it paid for free from subsidies and expanded medicaid?

They needed the young to sign up to make this work, and they aren't going to, take it to the bank on this one.

This will fail.

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Found this article while researching Obamacare. Worth sharing.



[link to www.forbes.com]


If you thought the delay in the employer mandate was bad news for Obamacare, just wait. On Friday, Sarah Kliff and Sandhya Somashekhar of the Washington Post discovered that the Obama administration had buried in the Federal Register the announcement that the government won’t be able to verify whether or not applicants for Obamacare’s insurance exchange subsidies are actually qualified for the aid, in the 16 states that are setting up their own exchanges. Instead, until at least 2015, these states will be able to “accept the applicant’s attestation [regarding eligibility] without further verification.”
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA



And you wonder why you guys need so many rules and regulations to have a semi-functioning society. You all push the system to it's limits until it fails, and then rules are required in order to prop the system up.

That is the reason we can't have campfires in the summer, cause too many idiots don't know how to contain them.

We need street racing rules, and speed limits, seat belt checks, and all this other shit cause you morons can't keep your shit straight.

/rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38130547


I see the point you are trying to make, but, here's where we don't see eye to eye. I know it's hard for folks outside the U.S. to understand this, but it's just like our government going into countries without the American people wanting them to, or giving billions to support MB.

"We" aren't morons, it's our government that keeps doing this to "us". They do this because it's called "job security", gee, let me pass a law that has my name on it, gee, I need some more money from special interest groups so I think I'll pass another bill, etc.

Our government is out of control, period.
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I can't afford anything on this, so it just won't be happening in our family.
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I can't afford anything on this, so it just won't be happening in our family.
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I agree, that's why it's one of my pet peeves.

Too much government, too much spending!

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Found this article while researching Obamacare. Worth sharing.



[link to www.forbes.com]


If you thought the delay in the employer mandate was bad news for Obamacare, just wait. On Friday, Sarah Kliff and Sandhya Somashekhar of the Washington Post discovered that the Obama administration had buried in the Federal Register the announcement that the government won’t be able to verify whether or not applicants for Obamacare’s insurance exchange subsidies are actually qualified for the aid, in the 16 states that are setting up their own exchanges. Instead, until at least 2015, these states will be able to “accept the applicant’s attestation [regarding eligibility] without further verification.”
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA



And you wonder why you guys need so many rules and regulations to have a semi-functioning society. You all push the system to it's limits until it fails, and then rules are required in order to prop the system up.

That is the reason we can't have campfires in the summer, cause too many idiots don't know how to contain them.

We need street racing rules, and speed limits, seat belt checks, and all this other shit cause you morons can't keep your shit straight.

/rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38130547


I see the point you are trying to make, but, here's where we don't see eye to eye. I know it's hard for folks outside the U.S. to understand this, but it's just like our government going into countries without the American people wanting them to, or giving billions to support MB.

"We" aren't morons, it's our government that keeps doing this to "us". They do this because it's called "job security", gee, let me pass a law that has my name on it, gee, I need some more money from special interest groups so I think I'll pass another bill, etc.

Our government is out of control, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25809776


I should have been more clear with the word "you" Canada is just as bad as the US, it's just not all over glp.

I suppose sheep would have been a better word for it. I firmly believe it is a lack of brain use that drives people to behave like this, a little thought in the decision would reveal that not everyone can have a free ticket to ride, therefore everyone should just do their part and we wouldn't have this slave nation we all live in today. They just herd happily together like a bunch of lemmings.
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Found this article while researching Obamacare. Worth sharing.



[link to www.forbes.com]


If you thought the delay in the employer mandate was bad news for Obamacare, just wait. On Friday, Sarah Kliff and Sandhya Somashekhar of the Washington Post discovered that the Obama administration had buried in the Federal Register the announcement that the government won’t be able to verify whether or not applicants for Obamacare’s insurance exchange subsidies are actually qualified for the aid, in the 16 states that are setting up their own exchanges. Instead, until at least 2015, these states will be able to “accept the applicant’s attestation [regarding eligibility] without further verification.”
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA



And you wonder why you guys need so many rules and regulations to have a semi-functioning society. You all push the system to it's limits until it fails, and then rules are required in order to prop the system up.

That is the reason we can't have campfires in the summer, cause too many idiots don't know how to contain them.

We need street racing rules, and speed limits, seat belt checks, and all this other shit cause you morons can't keep your shit straight.

/rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38130547


I see the point you are trying to make, but, here's where we don't see eye to eye. I know it's hard for folks outside the U.S. to understand this, but it's just like our government going into countries without the American people wanting them to, or giving billions to support MB.

"We" aren't morons, it's our government that keeps doing this to "us". They do this because it's called "job security", gee, let me pass a law that has my name on it, gee, I need some more money from special interest groups so I think I'll pass another bill, etc.

Our government is out of control, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25809776


I should have been more clear with the word "you" Canada is just as bad as the US, it's just not all over glp.

I suppose sheep would have been a better word for it. I firmly believe it is a lack of brain use that drives people to behave like this, a little thought in the decision would reveal that not everyone can have a free ticket to ride, therefore everyone should just do their part and we wouldn't have this slave nation we all live in today. They just herd happily together like a bunch of lemmings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38130547


Thanks!

hf



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Re: Not Qualified For Obamacare's Subsidies? Just Lie -- Govt. To Use 'Honor System' Without Verifying Your Eligibility
More than half the States are opting for the Federal government to take over Obamacare in their states. Plus, they will not expand Medicaid.

This means that all of those States where Medicaid isn't expanded, the low income won't be able to get Obamacare. How many millions of Americans do you think this is?

All these people who are getting everything for free now and voted for Obama are in for one big surprise when they can't get free insurance. Just wait for them to find this out, I smell trouble ahead!

The Dems were counting on this being successful for the next 2015 elections (which is why they pushed back the employer mandates one year). So now it will come back to bite them in the butt!





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