A Clarification on ObamaCare and Why We are Fucked.

I keep hearing people say that the bill that made the individual mandate a tax originated in the Senate. This is not true, unfortunately. This is what happened.

They cheated.

When the 111th Congress went back into session after the summer holiday in 2009, the House went to work on it's part of the ACHA bill - HR 3962. The Senate wanted to start working on its own provisions for the bill, but since any laws that deal with a tax must first start in the House, the Senate used H.R. 3590, a bill regarding housing tax breaks for service members. The Senate took up this bill since it was first passed by the House as a revenue-related modification to the Internal Revenue Code. The bill was then used as the Senate's vehicle for their health care reform proposal, completely revising the content of the bill.

So it did originate in the House, just not the provision for the Individual Mandate from what I can gather. It's such a fuck up and a slight of hand it's hard as hell for me to track down exactly which bill did what - where.

So that's how we ended up with a Senate Bill and a House Bill comprising the Affordable Health Care Act. It's made up of the following two bills.

Senate (HR 3590) - The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. [link to www.gpo.gov]

and

House (HR 3692)- The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 30, 2010.


Now if this doesn't piss you off to the point of being done with the whole lot of them up there, I don't know what it's going to take to get people to do something. If you haven't seen the movie "Good" with Viggo Mortensen, I recommend it.

I'm just a silly philosopher in an age where thinking is against the law :/

I keep hearing people say that the bill that made the individual mandate a tax originated in the Senate. This is not true, unfortunately. This is what happened.

They cheated.

When the 111th Congress went back into session after the summer holiday in 2009, the House went to work on it's part of the ACHA bill - HR 3962. The Senate wanted to start working on its own provisions for the bill, but since any laws that deal with a tax must first start in the House, the Senate used H.R. 3590, a bill regarding housing tax breaks for service members. The Senate took up this bill since it was first passed by the House as a revenue-related modification to the Internal Revenue Code. The bill was then used as the Senate's vehicle for their health care reform proposal, completely revising the content of the bill.

So it did originate in the House, just not the provision for the Individual Mandate from what I can gather. It's such a fuck up and a slight of hand it's hard as hell for me to track down exactly which bill did what - where.

So that's how we ended up with a Senate Bill and a House Bill comprising the Affordable Health Care Act. It's made up of the following two bills.

Senate (HR 3590) - The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. [link to www.gpo.gov]

and

House (HR 3692)- The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 30, 2010.


Now if this doesn't piss you off to the point of being done with the whole lot of them up there, I don't know what it's going to take to get people to do something. If you haven't seen the movie "Good" with Viggo Mortensen, I recommend it.

Obamacare is the worst bill I have ever seen.


Let me tell you, I am absolutely for a National Health Care plan. The USA has the most expensive health care in the world per person, and almost half the population has no access to it


That said. I oppose this bill. It is the most expensive, non workable system I have ever seen.

It was a complete sellout to the private FOR PROFIT health care companies already out there.

Instead of making a single payer, government run plan. ( such as expanding Medicaid) they are FORCING the people to pay billionaires more money for their plans ,that do nothing but pad their pockets.


Once again, more money must come out of the common man/taxpayer to continue to fund the Oligarchs. Americans as usual, get screwed.

What a joke.

self-serving

Great post!

Obamacare is the worst bill I have ever seen.


Let me tell you, I am absolutely for a National Health Care plan. The USA has the most expensive health care in the world per person, and almost half the population has no access to it


That said. I oppose this bill. It is the most expensive, non workable system I have ever seen.

It was a complete sellout to the private FOR PROFIT health care companies already out there.

Instead of making a single payer, government run plan. ( such as expanding Medicaid) they are FORCING the people to pay billionaires more money for their plans ,that do nothing but pad their pockets.


Once again, more money must come out of the common man/taxpayer to continue to fund the Oligarchs. Americans as usual, get screwed.

What a joke.

Obamacare is the worst bill I have ever seen.


Let me tell you, I am absolutely for a National Health Care plan. The USA has the most expensive health care in the world per person, and almost half the population has no access to it


That said. I oppose this bill. It is the most expensive, non workable system I have ever seen.

It was a complete sellout to the private FOR PROFIT health care companies already out there.

Instead of making a single payer, government run plan. ( such as expanding Medicaid) they are FORCING the people to pay billionaires more money for their plans ,that do nothing but pad their pockets.


Once again, more money must come out of the common man/taxpayer to continue to fund the Oligarchs. Americans as usual, get screwed.

What a joke.

Let me tell you, I am absolutely for a National Health Care plan. The USA has the most expensive health care in the world per person, and almost half the population has no access to it

Obamacare is the worst bill I have ever seen.


Let me tell you, I am absolutely for a National Health Care plan. The USA has the most expensive health care in the world per person, and almost half the population has no access to it


That said. I oppose this bill. It is the most expensive, non workable system I have ever seen.

It was a complete sellout to the private FOR PROFIT health care companies already out there.

Instead of making a single payer, government run plan. ( such as expanding Medicaid) they are FORCING the people to pay billionaires more money for their plans ,that do nothing but pad their pockets.


Once again, more money must come out of the common man/taxpayer to continue to fund the Oligarchs. Americans as usual, get screwed.

What a joke.

self-serving

Éireann, this is a very well written summary of the actions taken by our elected representatives and president to create the monstrosity now commonly referred to as "Obamacare".

It is important for readers to grasp the concept that no legislation is drafted, passed and signed into law unless it benefits either the government or the special interest groups who provide dollars to the members of congress, the senate or president for election campaign funding.

It is a sad state of affairs that virtually no legislation is created with the sole intent of benefiting the the populace at large.

The affordable care act is a massive give away to the insurance industry. Forced compliance on the part of the masses and the ability to limit claims and benefits paid out to the insured; which results in ever increasing profits for the insurers.

It's also an effective method to legally kill off the baby boomer generation, by denying medical treatment; since that group poses the largest threat to government solvency via social security and medicare payouts.

It is sickening. All readers should remember that when you or your loved ones reach retirement age; if you are consuming benefits and not paying into the system via taxes, the government wants you to die as soon as possible.

Tesla

Obamacare is the worst bill I have ever seen.


Let me tell you, I am absolutely for a National Health Care plan. The USA has the most expensive health care in the world per person, and almost half the population has no access to it


That said. I oppose this bill. It is the most expensive, non workable system I have ever seen.

It was a complete sellout to the private FOR PROFIT health care companies already out there.

Instead of making a single payer, government run plan. ( such as expanding Medicaid) they are FORCING the people to pay billionaires more money for their plans ,that do nothing but pad their pockets.


Once again, more money must come out of the common man/taxpayer to continue to fund the Oligarchs. Americans as usual, get screwed.

What a joke.