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Anisoptera
User ID: 21545618 Latvia 08/19/2013 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the furthest i've been when outside of my body, that i recall, is walking down almost to the end of the street by my house. and the place was messed up. and many things were different. it wasn't daytime ,for example, and there was a storm plus a house nearby was on fire. every time i have an obe i try to go further away. but i've read that the longer you are away from your body the bigger the chance that you might forget that you even had an obe. and that you should keep it short. |
Xerces
(OP) User ID: 14245097 United States 08/19/2013 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sure you can try to go to the pyramids but you can't really trust what you see. what you see there might not be what is actually inside the pyramids in the physical world. but sure if you have an obe and go to the real time zone then you might see what might be there or was there or will be there. but you can't be sure that it's not in some way distorted. Quoting: Anisoptera the furthest i've been when outside of my body, that i recall, is walking down almost to the end of the street by my house. and the place was messed up. and many things were different. it wasn't daytime ,for example, and there was a storm plus a house nearby was on fire. every time i have an obe i try to go further away. but i've read that the longer you are away from your body the bigger the chance that you might forget that you even had an obe. and that you should keep it short. Practice makes perfect My wife personally has experienced them, and refuses to leave her body. She naturally experiences them. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
Anisoptera
User ID: 21545618 Latvia 08/19/2013 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sure you can try to go to the pyramids but you can't really trust what you see. what you see there might not be what is actually inside the pyramids in the physical world. but sure if you have an obe and go to the real time zone then you might see what might be there or was there or will be there. but you can't be sure that it's not in some way distorted. Quoting: Anisoptera the furthest i've been when outside of my body, that i recall, is walking down almost to the end of the street by my house. and the place was messed up. and many things were different. it wasn't daytime ,for example, and there was a storm plus a house nearby was on fire. every time i have an obe i try to go further away. but i've read that the longer you are away from your body the bigger the chance that you might forget that you even had an obe. and that you should keep it short. Practice makes perfect My wife personally has experienced them, and refuses to leave her body. She naturally experiences them. Yes. It's somewhat not easy to do when you try really hard and mediate. i rarely succeed. but then other times i just take a nap, sometimes with the intention to have an obe and it just happens so naturally. So I guess that these experiences should come naturally to us and not be this hard and complicated thing. But for me they only recently started happening naturally and so frequently. I must currently be on the right path then.. Last Edited by Anisoptera on 08/19/2013 10:46 PM |
Xerces
(OP) User ID: 14245097 United States 08/19/2013 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However, the quickest way into the deeper states, is to let your mind actually drift off and start dreaming, but catch yourself dreaming after a minute. I normally visualize myself from the 3rd person, and my mind starts dreaming, and I realize I'm dreaming, but only so slightly notice it so I don't wake up. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
Keneh
User ID: 2482665 United States 08/20/2013 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44287106 This isn't a trick question or an attack, but I am uncomfortable with how you use the word power here, could you please explain what power is to you. To me power is just another tool to keep our minds imprisoned. It is a construct of man and possibly the most addictive concept we ever came up with. Intelectual power to tell another his opinion is wrong. Physical power to bully another into submission. Its allways a struggle the way man uses it. We obsess over power/level/hierachy , it like the ultimate source for our ego. If you desire a spiritual utopia you are going to have to work for it This reality does not just hand you a spiritual utopia So one needs power in order to enter a spiritual utopia? a power you must take? This is why I was uncomfortable with the concept at its base. I get it that you must earn it( its not a government hand out), spend time understanding and exploring the concepts on a philosophical level. So surely a utopia is only obtainable, Spiritual and Physical by the relinquishment of power? Or I guess at least the concept of power as a weapon/threat (this is not the words that I want to use, but I cant find a suitable english word) I just watched the whole thing, Thanks Keneh |
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Xerces
(OP) User ID: 14245097 United States 08/20/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't necessarily agree with his conclusion. He is analyzing it from a pure scientific perspective without taking spirt and science into consideration together. This is why the scientific community fails and simply rediscovers what ancient civilizations already knew. IMHO, DMT is the hormone that allows the soul or spirit to completely break away from the body to enter the 4th, 5th, or whichever dimension it is. Psychoactive drugs such as shrooms, salvia divinorum, peyote, pure MDA, acid and other hallucigones do not compare. None of them are consistent enough. Only DMT possesses the geometrical patterns, shapes, and interactions from higher dimensional beings. Unfortunately the brain only secretes small amounts of DMT during sleep, and probably not too much more when AP. "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
Keneh
User ID: 2482665 United States 08/20/2013 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't necessarily agree with his conclusion. He is analyzing it from a pure scientific perspective without taking spirt and science into consideration together. This is why the scientific community fails and simply rediscovers what ancient civilizations already knew. IMHO, DMT is the hormone that allows the soul or spirit to completely break away from the body to enter the 4th, 5th, or whichever dimension it is. Psychoactive drugs such as shrooms, salvia divinorum, peyote, pure MDA, acid and other hallucigones do not compare. None of them are consistent enough. Only DMT possesses the geometrical patterns, shapes, and interactions from higher dimensional beings. Unfortunately the brain only secretes small amounts of DMT during sleep, and probably not too much more when AP. I was inspired.Could you elaborate a little more on what you don't agree with. I smoked some salvia once and I saw some pretty crazy stuff including but not limited to the meaning of life, of which of course forgot most of. Keneh |
Xerces
(OP) User ID: 14245097 United States 08/20/2013 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't necessarily agree with his conclusion. He is analyzing it from a pure scientific perspective without taking spirt and science into consideration together. This is why the scientific community fails and simply rediscovers what ancient civilizations already knew. IMHO, DMT is the hormone that allows the soul or spirit to completely break away from the body to enter the 4th, 5th, or whichever dimension it is. Psychoactive drugs such as shrooms, salvia divinorum, peyote, pure MDA, acid and other hallucigones do not compare. None of them are consistent enough. Only DMT possesses the geometrical patterns, shapes, and interactions from higher dimensional beings. Unfortunately the brain only secretes small amounts of DMT during sleep, and probably not too much more when AP. I was inspired.Could you elaborate a little more on what you don't agree with. I smoked some salvia once and I saw some pretty crazy stuff including but not limited to the meaning of life, of which of course forgot most of. I don't agree with the researchers conclusion at the end of the book. DMT The Spirit Molecule. All of those listed drugs are conscious aware, meaning you are awake or semi-awake, but still within this reality. Yes you trip and see things, but it is within this reality. DMT puts people into a near comatose and breaks through into a higher dimensional plane. Salvia is just a mexican herb short lived hallucinogen. I laughed my ass off for 15 minutes on some 60x extract, saw all kinds of stuff, and then felt a crap high for the next hour. Last Edited by Xerces on 08/20/2013 01:03 AM "A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." -Dresden James "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer |
Keneh
User ID: 2482665 United States 08/20/2013 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't necessarily agree with his conclusion. He is analyzing it from a pure scientific perspective without taking spirt and science into consideration together. This is why the scientific community fails and simply rediscovers what ancient civilizations already knew. IMHO, DMT is the hormone that allows the soul or spirit to completely break away from the body to enter the 4th, 5th, or whichever dimension it is. Psychoactive drugs such as shrooms, salvia divinorum, peyote, pure MDA, acid and other hallucigones do not compare. None of them are consistent enough. Only DMT possesses the geometrical patterns, shapes, and interactions from higher dimensional beings. Unfortunately the brain only secretes small amounts of DMT during sleep, and probably not too much more when AP. I was inspired.Could you elaborate a little more on what you don't agree with. I smoked some salvia once and I saw some pretty crazy stuff including but not limited to the meaning of life, of which of course forgot most of. I don't agree with the researchers conclusion at the end of the book. DMT The Spirit Molecule. All of those listed drugs are conscious aware, meaning you are awake or semi-awake, but still within this reality. Yes you trip and see things, but it is within this reality. DMT puts people into a near comatose and breaks through into a higher dimensional plane. Salvia is just a mexican herb short lived hallucinogen. I laughed my ass off for 15 minutes on some 60x extract, saw all kinds of stuff, and then felt a crap high for the next hour. Oh, I didn't know you were talking about that book. Yes I laughed my ass off too. I only smoked a pinch of 20x. I left my body I'm pretty sure. I didn't go to another dimension exactly but maybe in between is the only way I can describe it? I was shown, yes shown that there were other dimensions. I saw them, it was layered like an onion. I felt like everything was one and ever since I am longer afraid of death. everything made sense but my brain was overloaded and I only retained some of the information.And I remember that I was laughing because the meaning of life which I forgot was the most funniest thing I have ever heard. at least that's what I remember. sort of. Keneh |
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