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more like "Mathematics".

Mathematics is the language of the Universe because
the Universe is one great big computer.

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I wonder how to make a wind chime tuned to 432 and the other good frequencies? anyone know?
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more like "Mathematics".

Mathematics is the language of the Universe because
the Universe is one great big computer.

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nanomol

fiboheel

fiboshell

fibomona

fibocane

fiboswirl

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Mathematics is Music. Music is Mathematics.
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Mathematics is Music. Music is Mathematics.
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correct-o-mundo :)
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Mathematics is Music. Music is Mathematics.
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correct-o-mundo :)
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Indeed, we exist in a mathematical universe. I suck at math though lol
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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Mathematics is Music. Music is Mathematics.
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correct-o-mundo :)
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Indeed, we exist in a mathematical universe. I suck at math though lol
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i understand and appreciate math, but i started coming
apart with Advanced Algebra, and totally failed at the Calculus :)

so, that was pretty much the end of my career as a
theoretical sub-atomic physicist.

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All you need, even in advanced mathematics, is Add, Subtract, Multiply, Divide. The formulæs, theorems, and what-not just tell you what to do when. Rather like a basic recipe.

Now, don't run off shrieking and having fits of apoplexy! Especially you Mathematicians.
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Good to see you posting again Xerces.

:5 stars:

Mem = Water

Connected to 'Wisdom'... 'MEM'ory?

(...)

 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Yes. And ma = what?

Now:

English: What? -> water

German: Was? -> Wasser

Latin: Qua? -> Aqua
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Can someone explain to me why it has to be A=432hz? Why couldn't it be something like G=432hz?

I tuned my guitar to G=432 and I think it sounds wonderful. The middle guitar string, G, is exactly at 432.
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432/2=216

216/2=108 (Go and look at what 108 means (number of resurrection, cyclic cosmic number for hindus, etc)

108/2=54

54/2=27 (3x9)

Go and look at what 27 means to Plato, for example.
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Can someone explain to me why it has to be A=432hz? Why couldn't it be something like G=432hz?

I tuned my guitar to G=432 and I think it sounds wonderful. The middle guitar string, G, is exactly at 432.
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432/2=216

216/2=108 (Go and look at what 108 means (number of resurrection, cyclic cosmic number for hindus, etc)

108/2=54

54/2=27 (3x9)

Go and look at what 27 means to Plato, for example.
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Number as in angle.
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Mathematics is Music. Music is Mathematics.
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correct-o-mundo :)
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Indeed, we exist in a mathematical universe. I suck at math though lol
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i understand and appreciate math, but i started coming
apart with Advanced Algebra, and totally failed at the Calculus :)

so, that was pretty much the end of my career as a
theoretical sub-atomic physicist.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8591387


Yep, that's when I lost it. After basic algebra I was done. Calculus and Trig were out of the picture.
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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All you need, even in advanced mathematics, is Add, Subtract, Multiply, Divide. The formulæs, theorems, and what-not just tell you what to do when. Rather like a basic recipe.

Now, don't run off shrieking and having fits of apoplexy! Especially you Mathematicians.
 Quoting: I'mpossible


yup. i had a math teacher once who always incessantly
kept saying: "just plug in the numbers and crank out the answers".
and i never appreciated what he meant until i was an old man :)

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Good to see you posting again Xerces.

5 stars

Mem = Water

Connected to 'Wisdom'... 'MEM'ory?

(...)

 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Yes. And ma = what?

Now:

English: What? -> water

German: Was? -> Wasser

Latin: Qua? -> Aqua
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You need to create a free account....so people can add you to their friends.
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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And you need to create an account too. Still reading over the links...

Last Edited by Xerces on 09/04/2013 02:09 AM
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Everything in existence is a form of frequency which can be translated as light...



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Very good thread OP, but I must point out this one video.



Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf

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Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf
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You are not understanding this. Light frequencies (or any other frequencies) can be transposed into the sound range. You can convert pulses from the Sun into sound, etc.
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Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf
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You are not understanding this. Light frequencies (or any other frequencies) can be transposed into the sound range. You can convert pulses from the Sun into sound, etc.
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well, hells-bells, i hope so. that's how our AM and FM radios work. and, electromagnetic waves are electromagnetic waves.
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Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf
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You are not understanding this. Light frequencies (or any other frequencies) can be transposed into the sound range. You can convert pulses from the Sun into sound, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46233190


For example, I want to understand the emission of a source radiating in the 20Mhz to 20GHz range. I can transpose that range into the general audible range of 20Hz to 20Khz. Hearing possesses high discrimination, so I am able to appreciate the nature of the emission and its variations over time. It's in some way analogous to watching a very high speed event in slow motion.
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If anyone is trying to understand the significance of A=432 read on :-)

Fourth octave tone/note A is used predominantly as the reference pitch for tuning instruments. As an aside, Middle C is fourth octave on a keyboard. The A above Middle C is the one you can tune to if you tune by ear. Most musicians use the reference pitch of 440Hz. The reference pitch just helps a group of people play in tune.

Reference pitch for instruments has fluctuated over the eras. Higher. Lower. Lower. Higher. Currently, for concert tuning, it's creeping up from A440 in many conservatories and orchestras.

Down tuning to A432 is 8-cents "off" from A440. If you play an instrument alone or with a like minded group all tuned to A432 it sounds lovely. Play A432 and A440 tuned instruments together and if will sound "off" and a good ear will hear the slight bleating as the vibrations clash. Not nice. Even a "tin ear" will hear it and feel the music just isn't ones cup of tea.

Never get a classically trained musician going on theory TeeHee
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If anyone is trying to understand the significance of A=432 read on :-)

Fourth octave tone/note A is used predominantly as the reference pitch for tuning instruments. As an aside, Middle C is fourth octave on a keyboard. The A above Middle C is the one you can tune to if you tune by ear. Most musicians use the reference pitch of 440Hz. The reference pitch just helps a group of people play in tune.

Reference pitch for instruments has fluctuated over the eras. Higher. Lower. Lower. Higher. Currently, for concert tuning, it's creeping up from A440 in many conservatories and orchestras.

Down tuning to A432 is 8-cents "off" from A440. If you play an instrument alone or with a like minded group all tuned to A432 it sounds lovely. Play A432 and A440 tuned instruments together and if will sound "off" and a good ear will hear the slight bleating as the vibrations clash. Not nice. Even a "tin ear" will hear it and feel the music just isn't ones cup of tea.

Never get a classically trained musician going on theory TeeHee
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perfect explanation. very good. ole~

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Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf
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You are not understanding this. Light frequencies (or any other frequencies) can be transposed into the sound range. You can convert pulses from the Sun into sound, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46233190


For example, I want to understand the emission of a source radiating in the 20Mhz to 20GHz range. I can transpose that range into the general audible range of 20Hz to 20Khz. Hearing possesses high discrimination, so I am able to appreciate the nature of the emission and its variations over time. It's in some way analogous to watching a very high speed event in slow motion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46233190


Conversely, I can record a sequence of very rare events and then accelerate that sequence in a way that I can catch its rhythms.

We have a window of perception and it is possible to convert events that are outside that window in such a way that they fall within our window of perception. That's what all instrumental extensions of our senses (scientific instruments, measurement tools) do. I cannot directly sense many types of radiation but I can detect them instrumentally and convert that measurement into a visual or auditive presentation, etc.
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If anyone is trying to understand the significance of A=432 read on :-)

Fourth octave tone/note A is used predominantly as the reference pitch for tuning instruments. As an aside, Middle C is fourth octave on a keyboard. The A above Middle C is the one you can tune to if you tune by ear. Most musicians use the reference pitch of 440Hz. The reference pitch just helps a group of people play in tune.

Reference pitch for instruments has fluctuated over the eras. Higher. Lower. Lower. Higher. Currently, for concert tuning, it's creeping up from A440 in many conservatories and orchestras.

Down tuning to A432 is 8-cents "off" from A440. If you play an instrument alone or with a like minded group all tuned to A432 it sounds lovely. Play A432 and A440 tuned instruments together and if will sound "off" and a good ear will hear the slight bleating as the vibrations clash. Not nice. Even a "tin ear" will hear it and feel the music just isn't ones cup of tea.

Never get a classically trained musician going on theory TeeHee
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8hz a is big difference...shumann resonance...

Last Edited by Xerces on 09/04/2013 02:12 AM
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Everything in existence is a form of frequency which can be translated as light...



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Very good thread OP, but I must point out this one video.



Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf
 Quoting: Too Dark Park


Electromagnetic waves as the other posters said. They can be recorded and transposed into audible sound.

You may enjoy this one as well.

Thread: Don't Waste Your Energy On Trivialities

hf

Last Edited by Xerces on 09/04/2013 02:37 AM
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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If anyone is trying to understand the significance of A=432 read on :-)

Fourth octave tone/note A is used predominantly as the reference pitch for tuning instruments. As an aside, Middle C is fourth octave on a keyboard. The A above Middle C is the one you can tune to if you tune by ear. Most musicians use the reference pitch of 440Hz. The reference pitch just helps a group of people play in tune.

Reference pitch for instruments has fluctuated over the eras. Higher. Lower. Lower. Higher. Currently, for concert tuning, it's creeping up from A440 in many conservatories and orchestras.

Down tuning to A432 is 8-cents "off" from A440. If you play an instrument alone or with a like minded group all tuned to A432 it sounds lovely. Play A432 and A440 tuned instruments together and if will sound "off" and a good ear will hear the slight bleating as the vibrations clash. Not nice. Even a "tin ear" will hear it and feel the music just isn't ones cup of tea.

Never get a classically trained musician going on theory TeeHee
 Quoting: I'mpossible


What frequency ranges are you at for half step down? I ended up dropping back down because I really start getting into soprano notes in 432.
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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Nice work OP! Thank You :-)
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Nice work OP! Thank You :-)
hf
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Always happy to share hf

Why couldn't I have been taught this in school....our public education system is such a waste.
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Sound does not travel in the vacuum of space. Whoever made that video is a buttnugget.



Still, very good thread hf
 Quoting: Too Dark Park


You are not understanding this. Light frequencies (or any other frequencies) can be transposed into the sound range. You can convert pulses from the Sun into sound, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46233190


For example, I want to understand the emission of a source radiating in the 20Mhz to 20GHz range. I can transpose that range into the general audible range of 20Hz to 20Khz. Hearing possesses high discrimination, so I am able to appreciate the nature of the emission and its variations over time. It's in some way analogous to watching a very high speed event in slow motion.
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Correct you are.

ohyeah
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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Nice work OP! Thank You :-)
hf
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Always happy to share hf

Why couldn't I have been taught this in school....our public education system is such a waste.
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You would have been my fav. teacher if you could have taught this.
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"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer





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