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Oklahoma murders - America is breeding deviant, unconscionable psychopaths . . . and you can thank the MOTHERS

 
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How many father's have also passed on bad habits? How many fathers have told their sons not to have feelings, not to cry when upset, not to express their feelings verbally? Well guess what- little boys are human like girls are so they should be allowed to release emotions the correct, human way instead of resorting to aggression. Two male psychologists with over 30 years experience mentoring boys wrote a book called "The emotional life of boys" and they explain why men have been made to be emotionally bankrupt and it affects their behavior. I read it and it is eye opening.
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Part of the reason males are "emotionally bankrupt" is because that's how most are wired BUT also because femi-nazis and controlling wives have beaten them down.

In almost every case of heinous criminal behaviors by boys/young men, there is an enabling, harboring mother behind them.

So the question is: What specific role did the father play?

Generally, one would tend to believe that mothers would teach their sons to be kind, gentle, respectful and that they would neither promote nor tolerate violence and aggressive behaviors.

So it is a puzzle WHY mothers - a gender that generally does not condone violent behaviors - are so quick to defend and excuse and protect their psychopathic, criminal sons.
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


If you read the book, then you would understand that it is not "mothers only" that causes these issues. Father's also pass this down generation to generation. I saw it in my own family, my dad admitted that he was verbally abused by his father, not given as much affection as his sister, and was expected to "man-up" as a small child. This was his excuse for how cold he treated me. My mom would say, "that is all he knows, ignore it". But the point here that has yet to be mentioned about parental damage, is that once you realize that your parent(s) caused you issues that possibly require therapy, you are faced with a choice. Your choice is to continue the behavior, be a victim and play the blame-game, OR you can change and do better with your own family. THAT is where self responsibility comes in...
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How many father's have also passed on bad habits? How many fathers have told their sons not to have feelings, not to cry when upset, not to express their feelings verbally? Well guess what- little boys are human like girls are so they should be allowed to release emotions the correct, human way instead of resorting to aggression. Two male psychologists with over 30 years experience mentoring boys wrote a book called "The emotional life of boys" and they explain why men have been made to be emotionally bankrupt and it affects their behavior. I read it and it is eye opening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45019828


Part of the reason males are "emotionally bankrupt" is because that's how most are wired BUT also because femi-nazis and controlling wives have beaten them down.

In almost every case of heinous criminal behaviors by boys/young men, there is an enabling, harboring mother behind them.

So the question is: What specific role did the father play?

Generally, one would tend to believe that mothers would teach their sons to be kind, gentle, respectful and that they would neither promote nor tolerate violence and aggressive behaviors.

So it is a puzzle WHY mothers - a gender that generally does not condone violent behaviors - are so quick to defend and excuse and protect their psychopathic, criminal sons.
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


If you read the book, then you would understand that it is not "mothers only" that causes these issues. Father's also pass this down generation to generation. I saw it in my own family, my dad admitted that he was verbally abused by his father, not given as much affection as his sister, and was expected to "man-up" as a small child. This was his excuse for how cold he treated me. My mom would say, "that is all he knows, ignore it". But the point here that has yet to be mentioned about parental damage, is that once you realize that your parent(s) caused you issues that possibly require therapy, you are faced with a choice. Your choice is to continue the behavior, be a victim and play the blame-game, OR you can change and do better with your own family. THAT is where self responsibility comes in...
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You are right, people can accept negative genetics and give in to it or they can fight like hell to overcome it and be better as human beings, partners, parents, etc.

Being a parent is perhaps the most important career in the world. And every mother and every father must decide if they're going to be a product of their negative backgrounds or if they're going to learn from their lousy parents and do right by their own children. Sadly, too many make bad choices and others simply don't give a damn. And the result is that this country is dealing with increasing numbers of mentally deficient, dysfunctional, deviant, and unconscionable criminals under the age of 18.

The burden of parenting, I maintain, rests with mothers, first and foremost.

If you can't be a good mother, don't birth a child.
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I agree op. There needs to be parental accountability, they should be charged with negligent homicide.
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Fuck that. I seriously doubt you'd be saying the same thing if your kid committed a murder.
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I agree op. There needs to be parental accountability, they should be charged with negligent homicide.
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Fuck that. I seriously doubt you'd be saying the same thing if your kid committed a murder.
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If you care about the welfare and proper raising of children in this country and if you care about where this nation is headed in terms of across-the-board criminal activities, you would support legislation to hold parents absolutely accountable for ANY criminal actions by kids under 18.

So apparently, you do not care about such things.
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My question/wonder is whether or not they will send their "errand boys" over to publically (media) defend these boys in some regard in some way - who knows HOW?

Since this murder has already made it to the media, they're probably going to have to do something, right? How can they ignore this? It's already out there.

And I don't know about anyone else, but where I come from, one wouldn't dare say they were "bored" because someone would put your butt to work.
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Before I reply to that, who exactly do you mean by "they"?
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


Uh... you know - the big boys in charge.
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Death from a 1000 cuts.... separated from mothers at early age, in some if not many cases dads teaching how to be a man is absent.

Hits all classes as even well off upper middle class career oriented moms abandon family for her other family, the corporation.

Corporate indoctrination, I mean the public school system is the last broken leg for a tri-fecta of madness....
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Agreed.

However, I do get tired of the blame the single Mom when, at least, they put in an effort.

Their men don't even bother to show up, but no one ever blames them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44681827


There is nothing to indicate that all single mothers "put in an effort" . . . many are lazy, apathetic, government-moochers with no morals and no understanding of the consequences of their actions.

Yes, many blame absentee fathers.

And this thread is not solely about single mothers at all - it is about "mothers" who fail to do their jobs and who also enable their criminal sons and daughters.

So many females today really are a disgrace not only to the gender, but to society in general . . . but that could be another thread entirely.
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


With 150 locations around the world where men are
deployed to war, a multi billion dollar porn industry
supported 90 percent by males, the population of
homosexuality growing by the day as more and more
men abandon women and break the boundary of perversion,
it seems the only people who are on the job at all
as parents are single mothers, who've loved and lost
the family dream.

The man who expects June Cleaver while he swills
beer, plays video games, jacks off to porn, and hangs
out with buddies spending the rent and diaper money
on prostitutes and sports is a lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45504799


Females are driven to seek the bad boys, the alphas, too many ignored family candidate men until a wallet is required of them to raise their accidents. This is perfectly clear with phrases like "WHERE ARE ALL THE GOOD MEN AT? NEED A REAL MAN NOT A BOY" They led a life of chuck and fuck with thugs and then decided to keep an "OOPSIES", NOW they expect to be swept off their feet by a Bradd Pitt who's got no kids and looking to raise someone elses. This is why co-parenting is all the rage now, women get a wallet and security from a "good" man, without the man, leaving them free to continue their AWALT behavior and pass it on to a daughter.

This goes along perfectly with how women are wired, there is no excitement in a man (aka nice guy) who's raising a family, who's responsible, who wants a loving relationship with a woman. Those men simply do not tingle her crotch and she is not "kept on her toes", she gets bored. The icing on the cake is the family court system has no problems removing that family man from the picture (upon cupcake's descision) and awarding the female alimony.

As mentioned by OP, the govt and their corporate bankers are pushing hard an anti-family agenda in part because it keeps women and their oops babies dependent on the system while the sperm donor subsidizes the govt. It's likely her offspring will need govt services too, or worse end up in prison to keep crime profitable for the bankers. That's why over the counter birth control is going to be traded in schools starting around 13, women get another solution to control their bad behavior. Let's also not forget a woman has 100% control of what grows inside her womb, she dictates when and if she will keep a spawn.

The REAL REASON MEN ARE OPTING OUT is men don't want a tattoed used up whorelette who seeks to trap him in the system, and they are awakened to the sham of marriage. There is plenty of cheap free porn available because women have made it less profitable by all the competition, a typical female argument to cover up their behavior and blame the basement dwelling bumbling men. Men have no more sympathy for the minority of these women, especially if they were one of the good men who was fucked over by the system, who had no recourse, no voice, and HIS chances of family were ruined.

Good job OP for educating men, women are desperate for that wallet and their disgusting behavior is being exposed as society and morals erode.
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Folks....step back and look at all of your replies. You are all correct in your opinions. This situation about deviant children is not black and white (no pun really intended here), there are so many variables as to why some children end up being sociopaths. I do believe kids are hardwired to do or become who they are due to different sets of circumstances depending on their environment. Not all kids will suffer the same fate in any given environmental circumstance. So, what all you say is true to whatever circumstance fits a particular child. Whether it is awful parenting due to an ineffective mother, absent father, abuse, neglect, socioeconomic conditions etc.

Now, having said that, these boys are disgusting creeps, I hope they all get the maximum. The one boy who everyone says is white.....he looks a bit bi-racial to me. I say that because some of his facial features bears a slight negroid resemblance.
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If those boys had fathers, they would look like Obama or Holder.
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Yeah, wonder if BHO is going to come out in public support of them like he did Trayvon.

And are Sharpton and Jackson going to rally for them?

Are all the MSM journalists and experts going to tell us all why we should be supportive and understanding of the two black killers and that the white man is to blame for their actions?

Who's going to rally for the innocent victim?
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


yea....dont hold your breath
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I agree op. There needs to be parental accountability, they should be charged with negligent homicide.
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Fuck that. I seriously doubt you'd be saying the same thing if your kid committed a murder.
 Quoting: HI.Lander


If you care about the welfare and proper raising of children in this country and if you care about where this nation is headed in terms of across-the-board criminal activities, you would support legislation to hold parents absolutely accountable for ANY criminal actions by kids under 18.

So apparently, you do not care about such things.
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


The thing is I do care. However I've known bad kids whos parents did everything right in attempting to raise them, one of them being my older brother.

If my parents were held accountable and liable for everything my brother did that would add insult to injury. It just wouldn't be right in my opinion.

You're coming from a place of emotion and anger, that's why you feel this should be a law. Just like when people cry for gun control when anyone gets shot.
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Nope.

It's not MOTHERS.

It's the Negro culture asserting itself as it
expands and is fed by tax payers, as it has within
all societies where it has fastened and festered
throughout it's history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45504799


Not every crime is committed by blacks.

Criminal activity from minor vandalism across the board to the most heinous murders are committed by every race.

More and more crimes are being committed by teens and young kids.

Human behavior and participation in society is built upon the foundation called PARENTING.

PARENTAL DERELICTION is epidemic.
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns

Really ?
If you give it a honest look, can you really say this "parental dereliction" is just all "across the boards" ?
I don't think so.

To give you an example, take the Youtube clip shown in a recent thread where you see a black American mother and two daughters outside on the porch. After a while of chiding, she suddenly lashes out and starts hitting and even kicking the youngest girl of the two and goes on, just goes on... doesn't even think of stopping.

We all know that crimes are committed by every race... but you also have to give it a closr look or you wind up like the proverbial ostrich with its hand buried in the sand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45510989


Are you actually suggesting that there are NOT bad parents in every race?
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns

Of course not. If you actually did read my post, you know that very well. What I DID suggest was to pull your head out of the sand.
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Thread successfully derailed.

It's a "parenting" issue now.
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And very skillfully.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45510989


Why wouldn't it be a "parenting" issue?

Most of this thread is based on speculation anyway... the idea that you think you know how all families are functioning, all the mothers or fathers' roles etc enough to stereotype them into a large clump. Then on top of that, you want to blame only the female gender for all that is wrong with men, when passing blame only shows a lack of taking responsibility for oneself.
Here is another question: Since the blame here is passed to mothers from sons, as being the cause of sons issues etc, who is to blame for the mother's issues? Are they not allowed to pass blame onto someone else? lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45019828

Yes, good points.
And as the topic was clearly prompted by the three young black Ameican killers yet the OP is trying to make it appear as if these kinds of thing happen all across the board which obviously is not true. And what about the fathers, as you youself were commenting ? In the US black community (even according to pastor David Manning (not Bradley), seven out of ten children are born out of wedlock.
So why focus only on the mothers ? The lack of a father at home can do much harm. It does't have to - sometimes it might even be better.
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I agree op. There needs to be parental accountability, they should be charged with negligent homicide.
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Fuck that. I seriously doubt you'd be saying the same thing if your kid committed a murder.
 Quoting: HI.Lander


If you care about the welfare and proper raising of children in this country and if you care about where this nation is headed in terms of across-the-board criminal activities, you would support legislation to hold parents absolutely accountable for ANY criminal actions by kids under 18.

So apparently, you do not care about such things.
 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


The thing is I do care. However I've known bad kids whos parents did everything right in attempting to raise them, one of them being my older brother.

If my parents were held accountable and liable for everything my brother did that would add insult to injury. It just wouldn't be right in my opinion.

You're coming from a place of emotion and anger, that's why you feel this should be a law. Just like when people cry for gun control when anyone gets shot.
 Quoting: HI.Lander


I agree with you that sometimes great parents simply have bad kids . . . and it can be due to outside influences that are far more powerful than all the good that parents do for their kids; it can be genetics which is also powerful; and it can be a "bad seed".

But in each case, prosecuting parents for the crimes of their kids would have to be investigated and considered. In almost all cases, they will find parental neglect on some level, to some degree. And it's very often that the mothers KNOW their sons or daughters are evil, dangerous, troubled in some way, but they either refuse to get them help or they try but don't follow through or they just plain harbor and protect.

And I still believe, when it's all said and done, that the primary parent is the MOTHER, even in a two-parent household.

This IS an emotional issue that incites anger - and it should incite reasonable and productive anger and it should be emotional enough to stir people to understand that it's time to hold parents accountable through new, tough legislation.

You might be shocked to find out how the crime rate among underage kids would decrease in America if parents could be charged, fined, imprisoned, and have a criminal record for the rest of their lives.
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So where IS the nation's outrage about this murder?

May we expect BHO to come out and speak about this crime?

And when is America going to acknowledge parental dereliction as an actual, prosecutable crime?
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No, you can thank the social services assholes and all of their laws that forbid mothers and fathers from giving kids what they truly need... A good ass whipping.
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But they is just babies and angels. They didnt do nuffins to nobody don't be rayciss and sheeit.
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No, you can thank the social services assholes and all of their laws that forbid mothers and fathers from giving kids what they truly need... A good ass whipping.
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Oh yeah, good parenting . . . violence against children is a great way to prevent kids from committing violent crimes.
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The most dangerous creature on planet earth is a 20 year old whit/black/ Chicango male with a gun
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America is fast becoming a nation of murderous psychopaths, bred and born by females who evidently have no regard for their roles as mothers, their duties to raise their sons an daughters to be proper adults who live as responsible citizens.

 Quoting: asthemadworldturns


You're also forgetting the stress that is being delivered daily upon the parents and the children, by a government led by a mentally challenged president who wants to keep the population under maximum stress 24/7. Many people today are being placed in a situation they are not mentally equipped to deal with and can easily be driven beyond their capability to understand what's going on. This is all part of the masks on - masks off, stay home - you can travel, confusion being delivered on a daily basis.

Then when one of the marginal, mental midgets breaks and goes nuts, the first thing our government does is blame the rest of society for the actions of the few, when the truth is, the government and those pulling the strings are the ones responsible for inducing this behavior.

The bucks stops with Joe Biden who is working day in and day out to divide our country. and sadly I must admit, this is the only thing he has been successful at.
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